Can I ask a dumb Question?
07-24-2011 | 12:14 PM
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I could not agree more
Only flaw with this I see is if somebody were to bump the throttle or the throttle moved on its own, which crazy enough I have seen even in boats and even my own where the throttle will come down on its own never up but down. Last year a girl was killed in LOTO because the boat was in N or then slammed its self into reverse and she got crunched. Not a good idea in my opinion leaving the throttles unattended.
SOLDIER 4402 YOUR DEAD ON!
07-25-2011 | 06:36 AM
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Well thanks for your 2¢ .
What if a 9 yr old joy rides your car while your inside the store and kills someone? There's a million " what if " scenarios.
I thought u were one of the guys soliciting advice here??? Awful ballsy to jump on people's advice that are trying to help as stupid.
Maybe you disagree... but ' what if ' next time your less of a dick.
What if a 9 yr old joy rides your car while your inside the store and kills someone? There's a million " what if " scenarios.
I thought u were one of the guys soliciting advice here??? Awful ballsy to jump on people's advice that are trying to help as stupid.
Maybe you disagree... but ' what if ' next time your less of a dick.
Sorry you will never convince me of leaving anything in gear unattended is a good idea. My as well leave your chain saw running unattended, table saw, etc etc. Doesnt make sense.
And its not a question of what if, but WHEN something will happen.
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07-25-2011 | 09:13 AM
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In my opinion it depends on the trailer and angle of the ramp. The ramp I use 99% of the time is one in which if I don't force it on the last 1-2 feet so that there is a LITTLE resistance the boat will continue to float slightly and won't necessarily come up perfectly straight on the trailer. I dont want one of the bunks sitting incorrectly on the strake.
Yes, it might blow out the end of the ramp, but there are HUGE signs that show the end of the ramp, and I have never seen anyone anywhere close to as long as me at the ramp so I doubt it is a concern for any others.
I do it responsibly.
Yes, it might blow out the end of the ramp, but there are HUGE signs that show the end of the ramp, and I have never seen anyone anywhere close to as long as me at the ramp so I doubt it is a concern for any others.
I do it responsibly.
I am at the Poker run here in CT (this weekend) and this guy comes in with a silver OuterLimits on one engine, has the whole Ph Uc Cking ramp!! Im on the left tied up going to get my trailer. Hes got 50 Feet to my right and A completely open dock on the right side!
His Idiot driver pulls his trailer in 3 feet off my bow, then the guy proceeds to try and drive load the boat on the trailer, but hes in too deep so he whacks the whole crank and everything, bounces back and continues to make tries, after loading the boat at least 6 times Sideways on the fenders of the trailers he finally gets out.
Man that was really good.LOL
I appreciated the wash pushing my boat up against the dock the whole time too.
SELFISH!
NO concern for anyone else AT ALL!
All he needed to do was pull up to the Dock walk the boat on the trailer from the dock and drive away took me 2 minutes took him 20 minutes.
No one is ever going to tell me its the right way to load a boat on the trailer and certainly not the responsible way to do it!
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07-25-2011 | 10:35 AM
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I've found one of the best alternatives to power loading (which I have never done and never will do). As I back the trailer into the water I stop right at the point that the boat is touching the trailer. Then throw a dock line onto the front cleat (anchor), then route it to and thru the saftey chain loop on the trailer. Hand rope to wife get back in truck slowly start backing into deeper water (pushing boat as I go) with her holding onto the rope. As the trailer starts to drop lower she can then pull the rope to walk the boat right onto the trailer. No wet feet no jumping from end of dock to catch boat etc.etc.
We use to do this we our 20' Sea doo boat and it worked great.
However I was not sure it was going to work with a bigger boat like the one I am looing at (27').
This thread is full of great info. I am not "first timer" but a first time "power boat" owner to be and also first boat that is over 20'. So in my head I am thinking that everything changes....I know I am wrong but in a way I do know somethings will be different.
The Blower thing is new to me though...something I will look into. I do even without boat know I will be opening the hatch prior to all starts for a quick systems check though.....just something I know I do.
I was looking into the "power boat" classes that is offered here as I see they get to my area once and a while but still not sure about it just yet.
Anyway LOTS of good info in here.
The Boat US course is a great thing and should be done too.
07-25-2011 | 11:22 AM
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Hear Hear
I must say I was up in Sandy Pond this weekend and somebody powerwashed at the ramp. ramp now has a 4-6ft hole where the trailer drops into and boat goes on crooked everytime.
Sorry you will never convince me of leaving anything in gear unattended is a good idea. My as well leave your chain saw running unattended, table saw, etc etc. Doesnt make sense.
And its not a question of what if, but WHEN something will happen.
Sorry you will never convince me of leaving anything in gear unattended is a good idea. My as well leave your chain saw running unattended, table saw, etc etc. Doesnt make sense.
And its not a question of what if, but WHEN something will happen.
You ever noticed now days people in general are just inconsiderate A holes this episode you discuss here pretty much sums it up.
I am so on this page with you and powering up on trailers. Lets just dont do it or leaving boats in gear running and unatended never heard of that one. But I am new to this have a lot to learn. Those two I will never do under any circumstances. Its just simple common sense.
07-25-2011 | 12:46 PM
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Maybe you do but heres a perfect scenerio
I am at the Poker run here in CT (this weekend) and this guy comes in with a silver OuterLimits on one engine, has the whole Ph Uc Cking ramp!! Im on the left tied up going to get my trailer. Hes got 50 Feet to my right and A completely open dock on the right side!
His Idiot driver pulls his trailer in 3 feet off my bow, then the guy proceeds to try and drive load the boat on the trailer, but hes in too deep so he whacks the whole crank and everything, bounces back and continues to make tries, after loading the boat at least 6 times Sideways on the fenders of the trailers he finally gets out.
Man that was really good.LOL
I appreciated the wash pushing my boat up against the dock the whole time too.
SELFISH!
NO concern for anyone else AT ALL!
All he needed to do was pull up to the Dock walk the boat on the trailer from the dock and drive away took me 2 minutes took him 20 minutes.
No one is ever going to tell me its the right way to load a boat on the trailer and certainly not the responsible way to do it!
I am at the Poker run here in CT (this weekend) and this guy comes in with a silver OuterLimits on one engine, has the whole Ph Uc Cking ramp!! Im on the left tied up going to get my trailer. Hes got 50 Feet to my right and A completely open dock on the right side!
His Idiot driver pulls his trailer in 3 feet off my bow, then the guy proceeds to try and drive load the boat on the trailer, but hes in too deep so he whacks the whole crank and everything, bounces back and continues to make tries, after loading the boat at least 6 times Sideways on the fenders of the trailers he finally gets out.
Man that was really good.LOL
I appreciated the wash pushing my boat up against the dock the whole time too.
SELFISH!
NO concern for anyone else AT ALL!
All he needed to do was pull up to the Dock walk the boat on the trailer from the dock and drive away took me 2 minutes took him 20 minutes.
No one is ever going to tell me its the right way to load a boat on the trailer and certainly not the responsible way to do it!
07-25-2011 | 01:05 PM
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You pretty much nailed it down on this subject there is more reasons not to power a boat up on a trailer than there is to power one up.
You ever noticed now days people in general are just inconsiderate A holes this episode you discuss here pretty much sums it up.
I am so on this page with you and powering up on trailers. Lets just dont do it or leaving boats in gear running and unatended never heard of that one. But I am new to this have a lot to learn. Those two I will never do under any circumstances. Its just simple common sense.
You ever noticed now days people in general are just inconsiderate A holes this episode you discuss here pretty much sums it up.
I am so on this page with you and powering up on trailers. Lets just dont do it or leaving boats in gear running and unatended never heard of that one. But I am new to this have a lot to learn. Those two I will never do under any circumstances. Its just simple common sense.
07-25-2011 | 02:43 PM
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07-26-2011 | 05:05 PM
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Yeah except I dont whack the brake. I just back in gently, the boat as it hits its spot where it starts to float will ever so slowly slide WITH RESISTENCE on the bunks, Into place. the front rope which is TIED to the trailer will not allow the boat to do anything but move back 3 or 4 feet all while still captured between the bunks and the Guide posts!
This alows you to tie off the stern line, climb to the front untie the front line and move the boat safely back to the dock to be tied while the trailer is now removed. You can video tape my way at the launch ANY DAY and post it then let people decide if its not the best way.
of course it only works at certain docks in certain conditions. Like the OS ramp, long wide ramp, not very steep, with little to no current.
it would also work very well at Your Dock but I know you like to wear hip waders instead.LOL
It would NOT work at Kevins launch in portland.
If theres two people to launch you donyt need the front line as the other person can hold both lines as you back in, I have 25 ft lines too BTW maybe if you werent so cheap you could get rid of those 10 FT lines you have,LOL
This alows you to tie off the stern line, climb to the front untie the front line and move the boat safely back to the dock to be tied while the trailer is now removed. You can video tape my way at the launch ANY DAY and post it then let people decide if its not the best way.
of course it only works at certain docks in certain conditions. Like the OS ramp, long wide ramp, not very steep, with little to no current.
it would also work very well at Your Dock but I know you like to wear hip waders instead.LOL
It would NOT work at Kevins launch in portland.
If theres two people to launch you donyt need the front line as the other person can hold both lines as you back in, I have 25 ft lines too BTW maybe if you werent so cheap you could get rid of those 10 FT lines you have,LOL
