2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
12-03-2006 | 10:22 PM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
Originally Posted by fountain40icbm
You can buy any 42 Lightning or Ex with 525's for under 300k for the last three years. They do run on the same hull. So I guess the price of the ex is telling you how much you are getting ripped off buying the Lightning. Here are some examples of ones with more power for under 300k.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-11893.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-11168.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-10638.html
Should I keep going. With asg's boat it was hit and repaired by Cigarette which made it better than new, but im sure that had a reason why it went for the price it did. Fountains are a production boat and the prices reflect that. They are priced well so they will sell lots of them. You cant compare the quality and the price of a Fountain to a Cig or OL. They are two totally different boats. Im not bashing Fountain here. Fountain builds a good boat, theres no doubt about that. In my opinion the 42 Hull is one of the best out there, especially for the money. It's just the quality doesnt come close to our Cig. It seems on here that Fountain owners think their boats are as good as Ol's. Yes you Fountain guys paid less money for a good solid production boat, but its not a custom boat as in an Ol or Cig. How many new Cig's or Ol's do you see with the same exact paint job?? Not many. Im mean theres 50 plus fountains with the exact same paint job, and thats just for one style. I agree on that all boats depreciate fast. But a Fountain for 220k then sell for 185k is after one year. Theres no way that if you buy a 500k Cig it sells for 300k the next year. Cigarette's are the legend that satrted this sport and people pay for the name and the quality of the product. Now I am probably going to get millions of responses by Fountain owners, so lets here them.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-11893.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-11168.html
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-10638.html
Should I keep going. With asg's boat it was hit and repaired by Cigarette which made it better than new, but im sure that had a reason why it went for the price it did. Fountains are a production boat and the prices reflect that. They are priced well so they will sell lots of them. You cant compare the quality and the price of a Fountain to a Cig or OL. They are two totally different boats. Im not bashing Fountain here. Fountain builds a good boat, theres no doubt about that. In my opinion the 42 Hull is one of the best out there, especially for the money. It's just the quality doesnt come close to our Cig. It seems on here that Fountain owners think their boats are as good as Ol's. Yes you Fountain guys paid less money for a good solid production boat, but its not a custom boat as in an Ol or Cig. How many new Cig's or Ol's do you see with the same exact paint job?? Not many. Im mean theres 50 plus fountains with the exact same paint job, and thats just for one style. I agree on that all boats depreciate fast. But a Fountain for 220k then sell for 185k is after one year. Theres no way that if you buy a 500k Cig it sells for 300k the next year. Cigarette's are the legend that satrted this sport and people pay for the name and the quality of the product. Now I am probably going to get millions of responses by Fountain owners, so lets here them.
220k for will sell for 185...sounds about right. The 500k
Cig will sell for... what? Maybe 400k-425k in a year.
What boat has better resale value? Looks about the
same to me.
Buy the way, I'm a Fountain owner and my best
buddy owns a Cig. Rigging wise, The Cigs wins hands
down. Fit & finish,Cig all the way. Bottom enginering,
Fountain. No doubt overall, the Cigs quality is superior.
Dollar for Dollar, money lost from a new boat purchase,
Cig is superior in that catagory also.
12-03-2006 | 10:32 PM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
Originally Posted by epeek
O/k I'll be you huckleberry. So the Fountain that you paid
220k for will sell for 185...sounds about right. The 500k
Cig will sell for... what? Maybe 400k-425k in a year.
What boat has better resale value? Looks about the
same to me.
Buy the way, I'm a Fountain owner and my best
buddy owns a Cig. Rigging wise, The Cigs wins hands
down. Fit & finish,Cig all the way. Bottom enginering,
Fountain. No doubt overall, the Cigs quality is superior.
Dollar for Dollar, money lost from a new boat purchase,
Cig is superior in that catagory also.
220k for will sell for 185...sounds about right. The 500k
Cig will sell for... what? Maybe 400k-425k in a year.
What boat has better resale value? Looks about the
same to me.
Buy the way, I'm a Fountain owner and my best
buddy owns a Cig. Rigging wise, The Cigs wins hands
down. Fit & finish,Cig all the way. Bottom enginering,
Fountain. No doubt overall, the Cigs quality is superior.
Dollar for Dollar, money lost from a new boat purchase,
Cig is superior in that catagory also.
12-03-2006 | 10:33 PM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
The accident definitely figured into the time it took ASG's TopGun to sell...........especially after PB magazine ran an article about the worst crashes ever that had a full-page spread of ASG's 'Gun getting a Donzi injection. 
I always said it should be worth MORE than other 'Guns, it had parts of TWO Aronow companies included........
I always said it should be worth MORE than other 'Guns, it had parts of TWO Aronow companies included........
12-03-2006 | 11:28 PM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
I do not think that most all the buyers of 38 and bigger Cig's or Fountains or OL's or Nortech's or MTI's or Skaters and so forth consider resale or the amount of money the boat will depreciate.
It's boating...people...the worst investment of hundreds of thousands of dollars...the black hole!
However, if I would have just invested the money I have spent on boats and cars in the last 10 years I could retire...but...hey I've had a blast and what will it really matter when I'm dead and gone?
It's boating...people...the worst investment of hundreds of thousands of dollars...the black hole!
However, if I would have just invested the money I have spent on boats and cars in the last 10 years I could retire...but...hey I've had a blast and what will it really matter when I'm dead and gone?
12-04-2006 | 12:47 AM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
Originally Posted by FeverMike
It's boating...people...the worst investment of hundreds of thousands of dollars...the black hole!
However, if I would have just invested the money I have spent on boats and cars in the last 10 years I could retire...but...hey I've had a blast and what will it really matter when I'm dead and gone?
However, if I would have just invested the money I have spent on boats and cars in the last 10 years I could retire...but...hey I've had a blast and what will it really matter when I'm dead and gone?
12-04-2006 | 08:48 AM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
Originally Posted by CASH BAR
The accident definitely figured into the time it took ASG's TopGun to sell...........especially after PB magazine ran an article about the worst crashes ever that had a full-page spread of ASG's 'Gun getting a Donzi injection.
I always said it should be worth MORE than other 'Guns, it had parts of TWO Aronow companies included........
I always said it should be worth MORE than other 'Guns, it had parts of TWO Aronow companies included........
Last edited by pm203; 12-04-2006 at 08:58 AM.
12-04-2006 | 09:13 AM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
i coulda bought this for 130k FOUR years ago......
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-13525.html
see... cigs dont depreciate
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-13525.html
see... cigs dont depreciate
12-04-2006 | 10:00 AM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
Originally Posted by epeek
Ken Colletes m/vice Donzi won....but it should of been a
Fountain Buy the way,we met at the Poker run party.
Your Glad is sweeettttttt!!!!!!!
Fountain
Buy the way,we met at the Poker run party.Your Glad is sweeettttttt!!!!!!!
We should be back up there next year as well. You guys up there have to get the cops to back off though. Its a beautifull lake, but they are pretty strict, and even paying to boat there is wrong. Dan
12-04-2006 | 10:29 AM
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Re: 2003 gladiator seems like a helluva deal !!
Originally Posted by dreamer
i coulda bought this for 130k FOUR years ago......
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-13525.html
see... cigs dont depreciate
http://www.offshoreonly.com/esvon/page-13525.html
see... cigs dont depreciate
When it is still for sale in Sept 07 then maybe they will bring the price down to reality.
