Hopeful first time offshore purchaser - Need info on SC system
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Stecz has his for sale too, kevlar boat I think he is in the mid 70's price wise and his boat is pristine.
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Amen brother!
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'00 Scarab Sport 302 CC
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'02 PQ 340
'00 PQ 280
'98 Scarab 22
'97 Baja Outlaw 20
'72 Checkmate
'65 Glastron
#13
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Everyone starts off thinking they will sleep on it, but its not any fun. It's as close to being in a coffin as I want to get anytime soon.....but juming waves it's like 35ft jet ski
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Stecz has his for sale too, kevlar boat I think he is in the mid 70's price wise and his boat is pristine.
http://www.offshoreonlyclassifieds.c...o12819-en.html
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My preference for the older style is not for the price difference. I have a feeling that on MANY occasions we will have some over-indulged friends sleep on the boat and the two couches, while not overly comfortable, will at least provide them SOMEWHERE to crash.
Truthfully - I love the newer cabins, I think they give a much more open feeling, but the ability to sleep 2 more is a strong selling point for us to the older style. In reality, I am pretty torn but with a slight preference for the older.
Truthfully - I love the newer cabins, I think they give a much more open feeling, but the ability to sleep 2 more is a strong selling point for us to the older style. In reality, I am pretty torn but with a slight preference for the older.
I understand your predicament but I wouldn't base your buying on the sole reason you want to be able to put two more people in the cabin to sleep.
Here's the plus for the older cabin and the plus for the new
(and of course we're talking about mid 90's guns/cafes "newer" cabins. Not the cover girl cabin...Just so everyones straight on that)
Newer cabin:
V-birth
facing seats with table (to mix cocktails, use ours ALLLLL the time)
Large (VERY LARGE) built in cooler
inclosed head
Lots of storage
bench seat on starboard side.
small sink
easy access to the radio from the helm
newer cockpit:
Updated bolsters (gives it at least a little updated look)
Updated grab handles in bolsters/deck and engine hatch (the older style had the stainless grab handles that date the boat a bit)
Newer boat (mid 90s) will come with white gauges usually.
Older cabin
V-brith
twin facing benches (for mor sleeping room)
stereo far forward in the cabin
I don't know about a sink or a cooler (?)
smaller head
oder cockpit
stainless grab handles
olde style bolsters (with out head rests)
pos. black gauges on older cigs
Those are the comparisons I made when looking. I leaned and eventually was dead set on getting a boat with the newer cabin/cockpit and have thanked the lord for my decisioin ever since.
With alot of people the cabin isn't a big part of their boating. With us, it's a huge part of our boating. I still believe the newer style cabin on the 90's cafe's/Gun's was the best cabin design on a performance boat ever.
Did I mention that cooler!!!??? You could put a body in that thing!
Then again, you get into Stecz's Cafe which is updated cockpit and older style cabin and nice,fast, reliable power, you just found yourself the best of both worlds....I'd say that's the boat to buy
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Makes sense....But as stated by others....I would love to spend the night on our Gun and planned on it even before we bought it. It's been 2 years and I've still not spent the night on it.
I understand your predicament but I wouldn't base your buying on the sole reason you want to be able to put two more people in the cabin to sleep.
Here's the plus for the older cabin and the plus for the new
(and of course we're talking about mid 90's guns/cafes "newer" cabins. Not the cover girl cabin...Just so everyones straight on that)
Newer cabin:
V-birth
facing seats with table (to mix cocktails, use ours ALLLLL the time)
Large (VERY LARGE) built in cooler
inclosed head
Lots of storage
bench seat on starboard side.
small sink
easy access to the radio from the helm
newer cockpit:
Updated bolsters (gives it at least a little updated look)
Updated grab handles in bolsters/deck and engine hatch (the older style had the stainless grab handles that date the boat a bit)
Newer boat (mid 90s) will come with white gauges usually.
Older cabin
V-brith
twin facing benches (for mor sleeping room)
stereo far forward in the cabin
I don't know about a sink or a cooler (?)
smaller head
oder cockpit
stainless grab handles
olde style bolsters (with out head rests)
pos. black gauges on older cigs
Those are the comparisons I made when looking. I leaned and eventually was dead set on getting a boat with the newer cabin/cockpit and have thanked the lord for my decisioin ever since.
With alot of people the cabin isn't a big part of their boating. With us, it's a huge part of our boating. I still believe the newer style cabin on the 90's cafe's/Gun's was the best cabin design on a performance boat ever.
Did I mention that cooler!!!??? You could put a body in that thing!
Then again, you get into Stecz's Cafe which is updated cockpit and older style cabin and nice,fast, reliable power, you just found yourself the best of both worlds....I'd say that's the boat to buy
I understand your predicament but I wouldn't base your buying on the sole reason you want to be able to put two more people in the cabin to sleep.
Here's the plus for the older cabin and the plus for the new
(and of course we're talking about mid 90's guns/cafes "newer" cabins. Not the cover girl cabin...Just so everyones straight on that)
Newer cabin:
V-birth
facing seats with table (to mix cocktails, use ours ALLLLL the time)
Large (VERY LARGE) built in cooler
inclosed head
Lots of storage
bench seat on starboard side.
small sink
easy access to the radio from the helm
newer cockpit:
Updated bolsters (gives it at least a little updated look)
Updated grab handles in bolsters/deck and engine hatch (the older style had the stainless grab handles that date the boat a bit)
Newer boat (mid 90s) will come with white gauges usually.
Older cabin
V-brith
twin facing benches (for mor sleeping room)
stereo far forward in the cabin
I don't know about a sink or a cooler (?)
smaller head
oder cockpit
stainless grab handles
olde style bolsters (with out head rests)
pos. black gauges on older cigs
Those are the comparisons I made when looking. I leaned and eventually was dead set on getting a boat with the newer cabin/cockpit and have thanked the lord for my decisioin ever since.
With alot of people the cabin isn't a big part of their boating. With us, it's a huge part of our boating. I still believe the newer style cabin on the 90's cafe's/Gun's was the best cabin design on a performance boat ever.
Did I mention that cooler!!!??? You could put a body in that thing!
Then again, you get into Stecz's Cafe which is updated cockpit and older style cabin and nice,fast, reliable power, you just found yourself the best of both worlds....I'd say that's the boat to buy
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Find the boat you won't have to redo everything. I have over $12,000 just in cockpit interior new gauges and shifters in my boat, and that is already done on Stecz's boat. I think people sometimes don't relize how you can spend on a 10 year plus old boat. Save your money and find one that somebody has aleady done right
Items like -
Swim Platform
Hydraulic Steering
White Dash
New Gauges
Vacu-Flush head with holding tank, pressurized Water System
Redone Cockpit Interior
Redone Cabin Interior
A/C - (please don't chastize me)
Switchable Mufflers
I would like to find a boat where I could get say, 7 out of 10. Otherwise, it is like you said, you could turn around and sink 20 grand in the boat before you know it.
P.S. EVERYONE - Thanks for the link to the Procharger System. I had heard of them before but didn't know what they were. I appreciate it.
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The older style cabins do have a sink and small cooler (you can't fit a body in there). They also have a smaller head because they have a sink in there. Pretty unnecessary waste of space if you ask me.
Since I wasn't really looking last spring I have to ask - do you guys find that more boats come on the market in the Spring, or is the Fall the time when there is more supply. Fall is an obvious time to sell them so you don't have to insure, store, etc... all winter, but do you find that a lot of boats come up for sale in the spring as owners decide they want to go bigger, newer, better?
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I have to say that the newer cabin would be my choice. I just about live on my boat all summer,week ends at least and that table with the seats is the answer. I looked all over for a good Cafe before I got the Thunder and couldn't find a good one that I could aford at the time, prices have dropped in the last year or so and the ones that have been shown to you are good deals, wish they were around a while ago. I love the Cafe's. Go for the newer cabin you will love it. Remember you get one long bench seat for one person to sleep on and ya just have to get the second one to have a little more of a buzz and the floor will look awful good!