I suppose the reason why Cigarette uses some of the Lip Ship boats in commercials, catalogs and broachers is because they didn't have one of their own available that day for photos.

I don't know the why behind the name but I do know that he is a teenager, his dad owns the Lip-Ship Gladiator that's for sale, and that he is close with the Ocean Performance dealer...has said in the past that he helps them with their website or something like that. He is generally pretty knowledgeable but must be drinking too much koolaid.

That's by far the most ridiculous thing you have EVER said on this website, and the lowest blow you've taken at Phil.

Maybe your arena can't shell out the pennies to get their boat to South Florida, but Skater, MTI, Outerlimits, Fountain, and everyone other dealer seem to have no problem getting their boats to Florida for testing and magazine shoots.

Your telling me that if Philly wasnt in North Miami Florida and wasnt right down the street from the factory that Lip-Ship performance would be the same??? Please....you know im right, and Phils location is one of the reason why he is so successful!!! All the other boat brands are usually from the factory or Florida dealers. It's costly to ship a boat even if you got the money.

Yo Tim they're giving me attention because we've dealt with Phil and I know what im talking about!!!!!!
Omerta, i dont do anything for Ocean anymore. I did them a favor for a month a year ago.
Abraham, dont blame you since you own Phils best work!!

One of the reasons why he's so successful?? What are some of the others??

Cigarette only dealer, Harold, and Maurico (sp) and Florida. He rents a space, doesnt have a service dep., no storgage ect... He has TnT for all his customers.

Obviously you know nothing about the testing of boats for the trials. Boats are shipped from all over the country to the west coast and east coast trials by all manufacturers that are invited. Anyone can ship their boat and many ship from WAY outside of Florida (and Az. where the other tests are done). Don't comment on things you know nothing of.

Its an open board and i can speak my mind. There are things on our boat that we have changed or think could be done another way to make it better! No one is perfect not even Phil despite what all you people think!!! This thread is just out of control.

Right by the Manufactures, not dealers.

You're a 19 year old POS that's saying on an open board that a man's long time business is basically built on smoke and mirrors.

What's your problem with the guy? Are you pissed he sold you a boat for so much less than you're asking and it won't sell?

As stated before...Phil brings boats as a rep for the factory. Neil, Bud or Tim can bring a boat anytime they like, but usually they don't.

Listen, the comments you just made tell me that you don't know what you're talking about. Everytime I walk in there they're servicing or working on a boat. They just did mine last week.

And who started the B.S.!?

By the way, you're doing nothing for your cause. You're making yourself and those you rep. look bad.

I don't know about any one else here, but I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed person...

I'm out.. Have fun..

Were not asking that much, broker who hasnt updated anything!!! I dont have a problem with him. I just dont believe every one should hold him and his boats high up on a pedistal above all the others! Got my age wrong buddy! The boat he sold us is great. No problems. When you look at others in the industry he has done very well for what he has.

Im not representing anyone. Just because myself and other as you can see dont think Lip-Ship is god that makes us look bad??? All I first stated was that other dealers and or the factory can produce a quality boat just like Philly can. Just because im not kissing his *** .........not worth it anymore!!!!

dont sh it where you eat!!!!!!!!!!:party-smiley-004:

this sounds like a ford/chevy battle only with ford/ford....

everyone needs to take a step back and relax, im going to hang in the fountain forum and post pics of cigs for fun...:evilb::evilb:

"Go to the show and talk to Ocean Performance!!"

Direct quote from you in your first post.

Most (not all) know you did some design for thier web page and some other work for them. You live down the street and are buddies with them. That's all good. But the perception is that you are associated with them.

But if it makes you feel better, I'll just say your comments make you look bad. Better?

LMFAO!

Yea I did just like everyone says talk to Phil. I was thinking of the customer who needs to trade in a OP is a formula. Phil wont take his formula in on trade. I was looking out for the potential buyer. If pier 57 was a formula and cigarette dealer i would have mentioned they're name.

Thank God we have Stecz around!!:D:D

It's comments like that, that show your age and basically what an azz you are.

Agreed, I'm done bantering with you. Take Toms advise. Call Phil and tell him what a piece of sh!t he is and that his business sux. Maybe it'll make You feel better.

This thread should be closed since its no more use to PremierPower!!

cigs for sale............some Lip-Ship some Not!!!!!!!!!
 

2006 39' Cig. w/Merc. 1075's.................................2006 46' Cig. w/Merc. 1200 Cobra's ........................2004 46' Cig. w/Merc. 850's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

"Lip-Ship" 39' w/Merc. 600's
 

One Lip-Ship 2006 39' Top Gun Unlimited w/Merc. 600's..................................

Cigarette's
 

Phil build's a great Cigarette and Cigarette builds a great Cigarette.................Bottom Line, call Phil or Tim G.

PremierPower!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

PremierPower needs to call me, I have a lot of 39 Top Gun Cigarette's for sale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally something that he can use to his value. Nice selections of Cigs!!

Ok i agree with you there. That comment was over the line. The fingers just keep going, my bad.

Where is this?

Where?...6 posts up...BTW you better be careful with that Lynch Mob Racing thing...Al Sharpton will be after you.

where
 

North of Dallas, TX about 1 hour at Lake Texoma

Got me there! I guess I should have asked what company. As for Al Sharpton, don't even get me started.

Here is a copy of the Pm sent to Permier

Hey Permier
Call me any time and i will tell you why I have a lip ship boat
sometime this board get side tracked with bull****.
there are kids on here spending there daddy money and think they know it all

Here is my cell number 1516 ??? - ????
Rick OSG

Here is his reply

Well you probably wont want to speak to me. My dad and I both use this name on OSO, we are both die hard boaters with a love for off shore boats. I post 95% of the posts under our name. Im only 22 but Im just as interested in this sport as everyone else, if not more. My dad works quite a bit and is really wanting to upgrade from our Formula. Im just doing all the research to A) help him out since he is so busy and B) its fun for me and I love learning new things about this sport as I plan to be in it for life. Just know, Im not just a kid out to spend daddy's money. Im just getting the facts so I can tell my dad so we (mostly him since it is his money) can pick out the perfect boat for us.[/quote]
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Rick OSG

What The Heck Is Going On Here!!!
 

This Is The Dad!!!!!!!!!!!
It Looks Like An 18 Year Old Needs To Be Taken Out To The "wood Shed"...
This Is What Happened When College Kids Have Too Much Time Off Between Semesters!!!!
I Am Busy At Work Trying To Support This Sport? We All Love!!!
My Son Is Basically A Good Kid That Loves Boats!!!
Did I Just Say "kid".......
All Boats That I Have Seen Over The Last 50 Years Can Be Made Better!!!! Period!!!
Can We Delte This Thread???...
Doesn't Seem To Be Proving Anything!!
And He Wants To Work In This Industry!! Whew!!!!!!!!