restoring 20' cig.... NEED ur Thoughts!!! need info!!!
05-04-2010 | 10:23 PM
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05-04-2010 | 10:25 PM
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http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
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the last photo is of the out board hole that is being filled....
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
the last photo is of the out board hole that is being filled....
05-04-2010 | 10:50 PM
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I took transom rated foam and copied the old window onto it then went about 3 inches above the factory window and back past the end of the factory window.... I think the window needs to go back about 1 foot so the angle is not so steep...
I wanted to start the window it the factory aria as its the widest part of the beam and most all boats start the window at this point... it keeps the top and bottom of the window the same size and keep's the top from becoming larger then the bottom... to make it work with out making the angle look funny from the side the window will need to go back further then on the newer and moded 20's.. the other thing needing to be addressed is that the top of window ends up over the steering wheel... I plan to take care of this buy carving a a large light 5lb block of foam to fit in be tween the sides of the window from where the hatch starts all the way back past the dash by 6in then I'll carve the front of the screen and a dash so i can in set the wheel and set up a custom gauge pod and so on...
hard to put whats in my head to words.... just give me a week to play, and I'll post photos...
I wanted to start the window it the factory aria as its the widest part of the beam and most all boats start the window at this point... it keeps the top and bottom of the window the same size and keep's the top from becoming larger then the bottom... to make it work with out making the angle look funny from the side the window will need to go back further then on the newer and moded 20's.. the other thing needing to be addressed is that the top of window ends up over the steering wheel... I plan to take care of this buy carving a a large light 5lb block of foam to fit in be tween the sides of the window from where the hatch starts all the way back past the dash by 6in then I'll carve the front of the screen and a dash so i can in set the wheel and set up a custom gauge pod and so on...
hard to put whats in my head to words.... just give me a week to play, and I'll post photos...
05-04-2010 | 11:55 PM
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[QUOTE=MiniHawk;3102238]I see that you are changing the fairing on the deck and it looks to me as like you are gonna make it like the newer 20' Cigs out there. Pictures show progress, and I thought you'd like to see my lil Mini Hawk project:
that is cool, what kinda boat is it? this is my first speed boat sorry not an expert..
ya I kinda want to make the window faring bolt on. I can put plastic down be for glassing it and that way it will screw in and be removable... I just want the top angle to be less steep, it will have to travel back a foot or two further, then I can carve back the extended area above the factory window like the newer boats.. there is no way to keep the hatch & the cockpit aria the same size so that the forward angle of the window faring is at the same rate of incline as the newer boats.
I do like the newer boats, and mod boats but the photos from the bow, or looking down at the deck, strike me as disproportionate. The closer I looked at the 20's and all other boats in the yard, like the lipship top gun in storage so including all other cigarettes. They all start the window at the largest point of the beam. the only boats that the faring extends forward of that widest beam point are boats with a round cock pit... I also think eating up the long closed deck with faring takes away from the cigarette look of a large closed bow deck and think the bow deck needs to be as long as possible to keep the boat from looking stubby..
On the other hand I find the angle much to steep on any 20's I have seen with faring in the factory wind screen location... but it is mostly the top angle, it ends up making the window look to triangular and to much like an add on... the larger cigarette boats all seem to have a steep for ward incline..
kinda torn..
that is cool, what kinda boat is it? this is my first speed boat sorry not an expert..
ya I kinda want to make the window faring bolt on. I can put plastic down be for glassing it and that way it will screw in and be removable... I just want the top angle to be less steep, it will have to travel back a foot or two further, then I can carve back the extended area above the factory window like the newer boats.. there is no way to keep the hatch & the cockpit aria the same size so that the forward angle of the window faring is at the same rate of incline as the newer boats.
I do like the newer boats, and mod boats but the photos from the bow, or looking down at the deck, strike me as disproportionate. The closer I looked at the 20's and all other boats in the yard, like the lipship top gun in storage so including all other cigarettes. They all start the window at the largest point of the beam. the only boats that the faring extends forward of that widest beam point are boats with a round cock pit... I also think eating up the long closed deck with faring takes away from the cigarette look of a large closed bow deck and think the bow deck needs to be as long as possible to keep the boat from looking stubby..
On the other hand I find the angle much to steep on any 20's I have seen with faring in the factory wind screen location... but it is mostly the top angle, it ends up making the window look to triangular and to much like an add on... the larger cigarette boats all seem to have a steep for ward incline..
kinda torn..
05-05-2010 | 05:30 PM
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[QUOTE=tomuchstuff;3102264]
My little boat is called a "Mini Hawk" Its 13 ft long, and has a 25hp Merc. These boats are still being made today under the name "Hot Dog Boats"
I see what you are talking about with the difference between the 20 cig and the bigger cigs.
here is a nice picture of a 39' Gun. Look at the incline on the fairing.
I see that you are changing the fairing on the deck and it looks to me as like you are gonna make it like the newer 20' Cigs out there. Pictures show progress, and I thought you'd like to see my lil Mini Hawk project:
that is cool, what kinda boat is it? this is my first speed boat sorry not an expert..
ya I kinda want to make the window faring bolt on. I can put plastic down be for glassing it and that way it will screw in and be removable... I just want the top angle to be less steep, it will have to travel back a foot or two further, then I can carve back the extended area above the factory window like the newer boats.. there is no way to keep the hatch & the cockpit aria the same size so that the forward angle of the window faring is at the same rate of incline as the newer boats.
I do like the newer boats, and mod boats but the photos from the bow, or looking down at the deck, strike me as disproportionate. The closer I looked at the 20's and all other boats in the yard, like the lipship top gun in storage so including all other cigarettes. They all start the window at the largest point of the beam. the only boats that the faring extends forward of that widest beam point are boats with a round cock pit... I also think eating up the long closed deck with faring takes away from the cigarette look of a large closed bow deck and think the bow deck needs to be as long as possible to keep the boat from looking stubby..
On the other hand I find the angle much to steep on any 20's I have seen with faring in the factory wind screen location... but it is mostly the top angle, it ends up making the window look to triangular and to much like an add on... the larger cigarette boats all seem to have a steep for ward incline..
kinda torn..
that is cool, what kinda boat is it? this is my first speed boat sorry not an expert..
ya I kinda want to make the window faring bolt on. I can put plastic down be for glassing it and that way it will screw in and be removable... I just want the top angle to be less steep, it will have to travel back a foot or two further, then I can carve back the extended area above the factory window like the newer boats.. there is no way to keep the hatch & the cockpit aria the same size so that the forward angle of the window faring is at the same rate of incline as the newer boats.
I do like the newer boats, and mod boats but the photos from the bow, or looking down at the deck, strike me as disproportionate. The closer I looked at the 20's and all other boats in the yard, like the lipship top gun in storage so including all other cigarettes. They all start the window at the largest point of the beam. the only boats that the faring extends forward of that widest beam point are boats with a round cock pit... I also think eating up the long closed deck with faring takes away from the cigarette look of a large closed bow deck and think the bow deck needs to be as long as possible to keep the boat from looking stubby..
On the other hand I find the angle much to steep on any 20's I have seen with faring in the factory wind screen location... but it is mostly the top angle, it ends up making the window look to triangular and to much like an add on... the larger cigarette boats all seem to have a steep for ward incline..
kinda torn..
I see what you are talking about with the difference between the 20 cig and the bigger cigs.
here is a nice picture of a 39' Gun. Look at the incline on the fairing.
05-05-2010 | 06:13 PM
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I am just starting to mess with the window faring... I still do not know what way I will go with it... painted the hull, awlgrip wight, I will re paint all but the bottom when she's in one piece.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
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05-05-2010 | 07:19 PM
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I am just starting to mess with the window faring... I still do not know what way I will go with it... painted the hull, awlgrip wight, I will re paint all but the bottom when she's in one piece.
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
http://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo...eat=directlink
