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mmb 02-03-2013 10:18 PM

Nauti by Nature Cigarette 38 Top Gun Refresh!!
 
Thought I would post my progress with the boat as I do the new engines and trans! A few people have asked me to post on here and I figure it wouldn't hurt to get all the work documented!


Removing the Engines
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps66398fa9.jpg


Wife working the Forklift!!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1343485995.jpg


Hatch Bracket I made..
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...psc2ce0559.jpg


Boat Sitting in the Driveway!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0c3d7d90.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 10:23 PM

Reason we pulled them.... Trans was locked in gear...... :lolhit: If you click on it, it should play a video..

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2769740c.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 10:26 PM

While the engines were out we took the boat down to the painter to have the side logo's put on.... The last owner Robert never had them put on..... :confused: IF you look at the driveway picture you can see what it looked like without them. We think it looks more streamlined now!!


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mmb 02-03-2013 10:27 PM

One More

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1345163035.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 10:34 PM

Engines on the stands.
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1340830034.jpg


Removing everything to get the trans off
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1342107033.jpg




After inspecting the engines and finding the wrong valve train components for Dart Pro 1 heads and push rods that were to short We decided to redo the engines. The guides were worn out and the heads were sent to Dart for a rebuild. Hopefully Chief will make things right with Robert (the last owner) since the heads only had 15 hours on them since Chief installed them....


Engines apart
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1342107035.jpg

Engine Parts!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1342107031.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 10:37 PM

New Rods for the engines
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...psd8dce282.jpg

Upgraded ARP 2000 Rod Bolts!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8ed04445.jpg



Polished the lifter valleys in the blocks
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2d842d59.jpg

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1355759683.jpg


Polished the lower ends
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps39016eb5.jpg

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps874f6171.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 10:40 PM

New Lifter Oil Spray Bar Mock Up. (Machine shop will machine the holes in the block for the spray bar!)
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps3ae36447.jpg

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0f6d9cf1.jpg



Squared off the front and rear oil drains so Lifter Oil Spray Bar would sit on the block better.
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9a4b6885.jpg

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mmb 02-03-2013 10:47 PM

Blocks go to the machine shop this week!! They will get measured/bored for New Custom pistons. Everything will get balanced. All specs will be measured then back home so I can assemble everything!!

I am also converting the Mark IV block to Gen 6 Cams/Timing Chain!!

I will post pics of everything when I get them back from the machine shop

mmb 02-03-2013 10:59 PM

Now for the reason we pulled the engines out!! :party-smiley-004:

This was the trans that was locked up, (These are 11 Clutch 72C trans).... I found that the locked up trans had a BAM clutch hub (the good trans had a Huber Hub) The Bam hub is solid with no oiling holes. I feel that is why the clutches didnt last as long as Hubers So I switched it to a Huber Clutch Hub.... Now both trans have identical parts in them!!!!! :angry-smiley-038:
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1340830036.jpg


Removing the BAM hub
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1344691071.jpg


The New Huber Hub (I had to sweet talk Earl Zimmer from Huber to get this thing!! Thank you for taking care of me Earl!!!) :bunnydance:
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps5e8ab811.jpg




Everything Cleaned and damage assessed! Ordered new High Performance Graphite Forward Clutches, New Steels (11 clutch set up) and Gasket kits. I bought everything from Huber! You can see the Huber clutch hub installed!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1344908204.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 11:03 PM

Here is a BAM & Huber clutch hub comparison.... Huber Hub has around 15 oiling holes around the Hub to help get the hot oil out and away from the clutches.... The Bam is solid and I feel that is why the clutches didn't last as long.....

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8881bd97.jpg


http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...psce92bfb1.jpg


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mmb 02-03-2013 11:10 PM

Bead Blasted all the old paint off the housings... Everything is re-cleaned and ready to assemble now!!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps691dda8b.jpg


Forward Clutch Assembled!!* Earl Zimmer gave me all the specs needed to assemble his trans!! Earl is a class act and I can't say enough good things about him!! He is more concerned with getting your trans built right than making money off you!!* Thanks Again for everything Earl!!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1342284389.jpg


Forward Clutch, Planetary and Reverse installed in the trans!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1345667940.jpg


Checking trans endplay
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1345667942.jpg


Can't forget the trans bible!! IF anyone needs it I can email it to you in PDF....
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...psbeb16f4a.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 11:15 PM

Trans Assembled & Painted. Notice the new custom 12 point stainless bolts and nuts!! I used anodized pipe plug fittings and -12 Cooler Fittings for Stainless Lines. Also installed new breathers!!


http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1346070442.jpg


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Both Trans were rebuilt with all new clutch packs!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...1346718260.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 11:20 PM

Forgot to post a picture of the control valve.... This has Huber's oil pressure modification done to it!! look for the washer hehe

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...psd4855475.jpg

mmb 02-03-2013 11:23 PM

Well that pretty much brings us up to today!!

Detailed the bilge, figured out what hoses need to be replaced etc.. Need to refinish the tops of my sea strainers too....

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps094603ad.jpg

frickstyle 02-04-2013 06:59 AM

Lookin pretty sweet! Can you send me a 72C manual? I also had Earl do both my trannies, never met him, but was real easy to deal with over the phone.

bwd 02-04-2013 07:12 AM

2 things that make a good thread,,,, A good project with good pics. Very cool.

frickstyle 02-04-2013 07:27 AM

Hey, what transom assemblies are those? Konrad or cut down / trimmed off TRS assemblies?

I ask because I have a very similar set up and was thinking I could trim the "ears" off of the TRS plates since I am not using the switchable exhaust, I have the Konrads sitting in the box ready to bolt on.

BDiggity 02-04-2013 07:47 AM

great pics & commentary!

mmb 02-04-2013 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 3861156)
Hey, what transom assemblies are those? Konrad or cut down / trimmed off TRS assemblies?

I ask because I have a very similar set up and was thinking I could trim the "ears" off of the TRS plates since I am not using the switchable exhaust, I have the Konrads sitting in the box ready to bolt on.

Those are SSM 3a's with the Konrad PRS III Conversion Drives on them.

post or pm your email and I will get the manual out to you!

mmb 02-04-2013 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 3861145)
Lookin pretty sweet! Can you send me a 72C manual? I also had Earl do both my trannies, never met him, but was real easy to deal with over the phone.

Sent the manual to you... Check your email!

frickstyle 02-04-2013 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 3861336)
Sent the manual to you... Check your email!

Got it thanks. Good to have manuals for this stuff.

mmb 02-07-2013 10:00 PM

OK we have the heads back from Dart!! They are completely rebuilt with new guides and a fresh valve job!!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps33e9c319.jpg


http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8dea44b3.jpg


http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps51b500ab.jpg


http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps605ec1d4.jpg


Here you can see they are Marine Heads!! Not the Automotive Heads!!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps33efb051.jpg

mmb 02-07-2013 10:04 PM

Here you can see all the new guides, I will be setting them up with new springs installed at 1.900". New Seals, New Retainers, New Locks!!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps6c723f61.jpg




Dart 335 CNC PRO 1 Heads!!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4a903947.jpg

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps4101c12e.jpg

mmb 02-07-2013 10:20 PM

Check out the sweet Valve Job Dart puts on them!! All the decks were resurfaced!! The heads are Brand New Again!!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...psc6c8d061.jpg




All the valves checked out ok (Would hope so since they have 15 hours on them)!! They were all reconditioned and refit to the heads. The Valves are Extreme Duty Stainless Intake & Inconel Exhaust. They are all Manley Valves!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps48b3a009.jpg

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps81a48a7e.jpg



Inconel is non magnetic!!
http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9e6b594b.jpg

mmb 02-07-2013 10:29 PM

Cheif and I talked Tommy is making everything 100% Right!!

mmb 02-07-2013 10:41 PM

Cheif and I talked Tommy is making everything 100% Right!!

mmb 02-07-2013 10:49 PM

Cheif and I talked Tommy is making everything 100% Right!!

Thank you for taking care of me!

mmb 02-07-2013 10:55 PM

Moving Forward.... New ATI Balancers!!

http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps2eb157ec.jpg


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http://i1123.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1e2a34f1.jpg


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frickstyle 02-08-2013 06:29 AM

Killer setup and nice rig. Thanks for all the detailed pictures and commentary, very cool.

mmb 02-08-2013 08:37 AM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 3863690)
Killer setup and nice rig. Thanks for all the detailed pictures and commentary, very cool.

Thanks Frick! I plan to post the complete build along with Dyno results. Looking to have it all done by the end of April.... Let’s just hope the bank account cooperates with me :lolhit:

mmb 02-08-2013 10:42 AM

I had a nice phone conversation with Tommy from Chief. He is standing behind his work 150% and he is taking care of everything.

He is a stand up guy!! Thank you for stepping in and helping out!

drpete3 02-08-2013 10:48 AM

Like this thread

SkaterMike82 02-08-2013 11:08 AM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 3863837)
I had a nice phone conversation with Tommy from Chief. He is standing behind his work 150% and he is talking care of everything.

He is a stand up guy!! Thank you for stepping in and helping out!

He's the BEST of the BEST.....Both has an engine builder and as a person

jasonmd2 02-09-2013 01:16 PM

Looking really good Mark!

Thanks for posting all the detailed pix and commentary...and yes, Tommy is a great guy, glad it all worked out for you!

mmb 02-09-2013 04:52 PM


Originally Posted by jasonmd2 (Post 3864372)
Looking really good Mark!

Thanks for posting all the detailed pix and commentary...and yes, Tommy is a great guy, glad it all worked out for you!

Thanks Jason!! Looking forward to doing some boating with you this year!

jasonmd2 02-09-2013 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by mmb (Post 3864440)
Thanks Jason!! Looking forward to doing some boating with you this year!

Looks like ours both might be done around the same time :lolhit:

I'm just waiting for Mike to free up some space in his shop to do the interior, he's swamped with the show and poker run right now.

mmb 02-09-2013 07:24 PM


Originally Posted by jasonmd2 (Post 3864444)
Looks like ours both might be done around the same time :lolhit:

I'm just waiting for Mike to free up some space in his shop to do the interior, he's swamped with the show and poker run right now.


Post some pictures when its done!

OldSchool 02-09-2013 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by jasonmd2 (Post 3864444)
I'm just waiting for Mike to free up some space in his shop to do the interior, he's swamped with the show and poker run right now.

:cool::party-smiley-004:

jasonmd2 02-09-2013 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 3864491)
:cool::party-smiley-004:

Don't worry, yours won't be ready for the PR...heard there's a bunch of "little" boats parked in front of it :lolhit:

mmb 02-11-2013 12:12 PM

lol... OldSchool didn’t you just put new interior in?


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