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scippy 01-20-2014 04:50 PM

Excellent job Rick!...............with all you've learned so far the 27' sport should be a cinch!

Rick G 01-21-2014 06:41 AM

Thanks Scippy , hope you are right , but you never stop learning .
I hope to start the Magnum this winter . I want to enjoy the flat deck this summer .
RG.

adk61 01-21-2014 07:37 AM


Originally Posted by tcelano (Post 3939591)
Rick, you should be good in that range. I had gotten the impression of more power from one of the posts. What is the peak rpm range on those mills? If your peak power is around 5500, you'll likely want to end up with 27 or 28's. I haven't opened mine up yet, (and may never be able to hold it all they way open...) but I can tell from the engine telemetry and my prediction calcs that going 92 required about 830 hp per side. Your hull is heavier, but I'm lugging around blowers and intercoolers, extra fuel, extension boxes, drivelines, remote tailstocks, etc, so weight prob ends up close.

My calcs show that with the 25's you will likely need to spin 5700 rpm, and 625 hp at crank to reach 80. If you get 27's I think you could get to 86 mph@ 5700, 725 hp. If you can't spin that high, 28's, maybe 29's.

5500 comfortably, 5800 they will hold with ease, however longevity would be sacrificed... stroke and rod comination not my favorite choice, but when on a budget gotta work within the box!! lol
they are still heafty mills for being N/A and @ 725hp I'm thinking Rick is being a tad conservative... all in all I'm looking forward to some fine fast boating this summer!!!

adk61 01-21-2014 07:38 AM

tcelano... what you running for power? gimme info... we need info!! lmao

Rick G 03-31-2014 08:45 AM

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Well we started to do the final rerigg . Got one motor in place . Just need to aglin shim and bolt her into place . Here is a picture from yesterday .
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88bullet 03-31-2014 08:52 AM

am i gonna be able to hear that bad boy from across the pond??

ICDEDPPL 03-31-2014 08:58 AM

Very Nice Rick, keep the pics coming

Rick G 03-31-2014 09:45 AM

88Bullet , with 4.5 inch open pipes I sure as hell hope so . Do you guys ever run to Niagra on the lake . Thanks Dan will do .
RG.

88bullet 03-31-2014 09:49 AM

no im not allowed in canada i had a dui when i was younger. but we do the lower niagara river sometimes

adk61 03-31-2014 11:22 AM

we will let you know when we're all down at snug harbor... 88 bullet, I'm sure we can sneak ya in... :daz:

adk61 03-31-2014 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by Rick G (Post 4098739)
Well we started to do the final rerigg . Got one motor in place . Just need to aglin shim and bolt her into place . Here is a picture from yesterday .
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they're pretty,

adk61 03-31-2014 11:24 AM

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but these would be nicer!!! lmao

MrCIG 03-31-2014 06:12 PM

Looks nice Rick. Can't wait to see the results

Mark

adk61 04-02-2014 10:59 AM

I will experience these results and get back to yaw'll LMAO!!

Rick G 04-14-2014 10:44 AM

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Well finally got the other motor installed and aligned . Just a couple more mounting holes to drill , then we are ready to final rig and detail . Then we get to fire them up . Here is a picture of yesterday's results.
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sonic700 04-14-2014 11:12 AM

Looking good. Cant wait to hear the results

adk61 04-14-2014 12:54 PM


Originally Posted by Rick G (Post 4106025)
Well finally got the other motor installed and aligned . Just a couple more mounting holes to drill , then we are ready to final rig and detail . Then we get to fire them up . Here is a picture of yesterday's results.
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just look at those shinny AK Racing bullets!!!

Zero Patience 04-14-2014 07:15 PM

Very nice.

Rick G 04-21-2014 02:02 PM

Thanks Kirk .

RG.

Rick G 07-21-2014 10:21 AM

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Well Friday afernoon I threw the boat in the water for a couple of short passes just to the seat the rings and shake it down. One water temp gauge and the oil temp gauges seem to be acting up , I am sure just wiring issues as they worked before I tore it down . Running my old 17X 25 four blades and the 3 inches of spacers gets up on plane betwen 2,500 and 3,000 rpm without allot of effort . My first impression with the notch it that it runs with a little more bow in the air attitude and reacts much quicker to trim . The one blast I attempted saw 4,700 rpm and 73 mph in dead calm water for only a few seconds ( still breaking in motors ) . I know props are wrong and my engine guy figures we are light on timing . The carbs need to be adjusted now that it is wet . I think there is at least 10 mile in this set up once we spend more that the 15 minutes I have spent so far .
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MrCIG 07-21-2014 08:02 PM

Looking Good Rick. Keep it going

Mark

88bullet 07-21-2014 08:53 PM

Ontario has been like glass the last couple days. congrats on hitting the water!!

Full Force 07-21-2014 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by Rick G (Post 4156801)
Well Friday afernoon I threw the boat in the water for a couple of short passes just to the seat the rings and shake it down. One water temp gauge and the oil temp gauges seem to be acting up , I am sure just wiring issues as they worked before I tore it down . Running my old 17X 25 four blades and the 3 inches of spacers gets up on plane betwen 2,500 and 3,000 rpm without allot of effort . My first impression with the notch it that it runs with a little more bow in the air attitude and reacts much quicker to trim . The one blast I attempted saw 4,700 rpm and 73 mph in dead calm water for only a few seconds ( still breaking in motors ) . I know props are wrong and my engine guy figures we are light on timing . The carbs need to be adjusted now that it is wet . I think there is at least 10 mile in this set up once we spend more that the 15 minutes I have spent so far .
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god what a great looking boat!!!!!!

Rick G 07-22-2014 06:07 AM

Thanks gents , I will keep you posted . It supposed to be hot today so I may try and run it again this afternoon.

Rick.

ICDEDPPL 07-22-2014 09:52 AM

It always takes time to dial everything in, good luck with it!

Rick G 07-22-2014 11:03 AM

Thanks Dan.
RG.

Rick G 07-24-2014 08:39 AM

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Yesterday in Toronto it was 38 degrees celsious so we put the boat in and went for ride to the Toronto harbour and then to a cool water access restaraunt in Port Credit called Snug Harbour . Here is a shot of a buddy of mine and me leaving the restaraunt.
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frickstyle 07-24-2014 09:14 AM

saweet!

Perlmudder 07-24-2014 11:06 AM


Originally Posted by Rick G (Post 4159089)
Yesterday in Toronto it was 38 degrees celsious so we put the boat in and went for ride to the Toronto harbour and then to a cool water access restaraunt in Port Credit called Snug Harbour . Here is a shot of a buddy of mine and me leaving the restaraunt.
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I was on the rooftop terrace of my office downtown, wishing I was out there. It was a gorgeous day. Where do you launch? Also, did you happen to get any depth readings going into port credit. I take my boss their in his 53 carver, and we draw 5'5" and I hate that narrow shallow channel to get in there.

Rick G 07-24-2014 02:43 PM

Normally I would lunch at Park Lawn , but Tuesday I launched at Lake Front Promenade in Port Credit . I don't think you should have issues getting into that harbour as long as you stay tight to the wall on the east side . There were some pretty big boats including a rather large Sail boat there that day .Its a great place to go and have a refreshment and hang out . Friday will probably be the last day I run lake O till September as I will probably take the boat up to my cottage on lake Simcoe till labour day . Where you normally boat.
Rick G.

Perlmudder 07-24-2014 04:08 PM

That was always the problem. Hugging the east wall going in is not really fun, especially if another boat is going the other way. It gets pretty tight in there when we are 60LOA. I boat on Lake Erie in Crystal Beach. My boss keeps his boat at Ontario Place Marina. I used to take clients of his out for booze cruise harbour tours all summer long, and the occasional trip to Port Credit or Niagara on the Lake.

Rick G 07-28-2014 03:05 PM

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Hey Perlmudder I forgot to ask if you saw us coming into the Toronto last Tuesday. Man that was the best day of the summer so far.
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Perlmudder 07-28-2014 03:17 PM

No I didn't. Unfortunately I was only up there for a few minutes till I had to get back to work. The storm last night sure churned up the inner harbour though.

open87 05-12-2019 11:45 AM

Great thread.

onig 11-18-2024 07:33 AM

Did you ever take out the spacers ?

Rick G 11-20-2024 04:59 PM

Onig , never got that far. Boat runs great just too many other things going on . I retired this so I hope to time next year. Will post updates as they
happen. Rick G

jeff32 11-20-2024 07:48 PM

just read your tread! nice work!
10 years ago already !

scippy 11-20-2024 09:11 PM

Rick whatever happened to the Magnum?

Rick G 12-26-2024 09:00 AM

Hi Scippy , I still have the magnum . Life got in the way . I retired this year so I
will have time to start it this spring . In the mean time I am doing a resto of a 1970’s Challenger 21 . Need a bigger boat for the cottage. The Donzi sweet 16 is a bit small these days. . Cheers RG


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