1989 Cafe Racer inspection tips?!
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I don't know any of the parties involved and taking everything at face value, my opnion is that the seller is really the culprit here. A deposit is more than just a goodwill gesture; it should "hold" the boat until the buyer decides to proceed or not and should have given FW the right of first refusal; why else take a deposit. Although by his own admission, duramax said he backed away the first time and then went back, so who knows...
This site is great, there are a lot of great guys on it and I've learned a TON from being part of this community. The one piece of advice I'd give is this. It's great to get opinions in public about things you are considering and picking the collective brains of some very knowledgeable people here, but when it comes to buying a specific boat and you've found "the one", it's in your best interests not to publicize it until you close the deal. While there are a ton of boats for sale, really good ones are harder to come by and anyone who's seriously in the market might make a play for it and there's a good chance it's going to be another member here..remember the old adage... "loose lips sink ships"...
Full Whack, you should probably consider yourself lucky you didn't get this boat and I sincerely hope you get your money back because if you don't that turns this saga from just poor business practice to theft. Hate to hear about this stuff.. good luck with the search..
This site is great, there are a lot of great guys on it and I've learned a TON from being part of this community. The one piece of advice I'd give is this. It's great to get opinions in public about things you are considering and picking the collective brains of some very knowledgeable people here, but when it comes to buying a specific boat and you've found "the one", it's in your best interests not to publicize it until you close the deal. While there are a ton of boats for sale, really good ones are harder to come by and anyone who's seriously in the market might make a play for it and there's a good chance it's going to be another member here..remember the old adage... "loose lips sink ships"...
Full Whack, you should probably consider yourself lucky you didn't get this boat and I sincerely hope you get your money back because if you don't that turns this saga from just poor business practice to theft. Hate to hear about this stuff.. good luck with the search..
#83
Seller has boat for sale
Takes a non refundable deposit from buyer 1
Tells buyer 1 the hull is sound because it is a freshwater boat
Buyer 2 shows up with cash and is told seller doesn't want to deal with buyer 1 cause he wants a survey done on it ( things that make you go hmmmm)
Pissing match occurs, buyer 2 goes home with empty hitch
Buyer 2 drives back the 6 hrs a couple days later and makes it work out ($$$$$???), pays cash, goes home with new purchase
Buyer 2 gets boat home and crawls around in it, then out of goodness of his heart, offers to sell it to buyer 1
Seller says the non refundable check is in the mail to buyer 1
Buyer 1 says no check yet (has enough time been given.)
Is that about it in a nut shell? Just putting the time line in order here going by posts given by both buyers
I think I've seen more flags raised at the Winter Olympics, but that's about only place.
You may have dodged a bullet here FW. Is your deposit check one that you could do a stop payment on?
Takes a non refundable deposit from buyer 1
Tells buyer 1 the hull is sound because it is a freshwater boat
Buyer 2 shows up with cash and is told seller doesn't want to deal with buyer 1 cause he wants a survey done on it ( things that make you go hmmmm)
Pissing match occurs, buyer 2 goes home with empty hitch
Buyer 2 drives back the 6 hrs a couple days later and makes it work out ($$$$$???), pays cash, goes home with new purchase
Buyer 2 gets boat home and crawls around in it, then out of goodness of his heart, offers to sell it to buyer 1
Seller says the non refundable check is in the mail to buyer 1
Buyer 1 says no check yet (has enough time been given.)
Is that about it in a nut shell? Just putting the time line in order here going by posts given by both buyers
I think I've seen more flags raised at the Winter Olympics, but that's about only place.
You may have dodged a bullet here FW. Is your deposit check one that you could do a stop payment on?
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That about sums it up US1.. I don't want the boat anymore, the deposit was made with a credit card, and having been over a week I'm sure it's too late.. They sent the check out Monday, supposedly and said I should have it next day (Tuesday).. As of 11pm last night, nothing had shown up for me. I'll be in touch with the marina tomorrow if I don't receive anything today.. Thanks for all the kind words and support, unfortunately that's the top of my budget and I was going to go through the boat in stages over the course of several years.. I'm looking for
Something to keep, not something to turn a profit on.. Rather than have to finance in the future, I may wait another year and have the cash up front so I don't have to risk losing out on something while I wait.. I found a 35 formula in Connecticut for 18k in similar condition, but I've always wanted a cigarette, it's a bucket list item for me.. If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it once and get something I really want. I'll keep an open eye and hopefully with some good karma I'll end up with exactly it is that I want.. I'll keep you guys posted with the outcome either way, just ready for this week to be over, the beers I drink tomorrow will be a lot cheaper than the diesel I'd be buying to go to to Long Island anyway! Cheers..
Justin
Something to keep, not something to turn a profit on.. Rather than have to finance in the future, I may wait another year and have the cash up front so I don't have to risk losing out on something while I wait.. I found a 35 formula in Connecticut for 18k in similar condition, but I've always wanted a cigarette, it's a bucket list item for me.. If I'm gonna do it, I'm gonna do it once and get something I really want. I'll keep an open eye and hopefully with some good karma I'll end up with exactly it is that I want.. I'll keep you guys posted with the outcome either way, just ready for this week to be over, the beers I drink tomorrow will be a lot cheaper than the diesel I'd be buying to go to to Long Island anyway! Cheers..
Justin
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From: Cape coral, FL
Good luck Justin. If you really want a cig don't settle. You'll hate it. I really want a fountain and am holding out till I get the right one. Dmax knew about the deposit from an Oso member as he had posted in this thread, so he is just as shady as the seller in my opinion when it comes to the board. Had this never been brought up and no clue of this then bought it is a different story. He wants to show us all that he is Reggie fountain/don aronow/Eddie young/McLeod/Mitcher T all in one.
I have lost all respect for him doing this to another Oso member.
I have lost all respect for him doing this to another Oso member.
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From: Overland Park, KS 87mm Loto
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I would say its a blessing in disguise.
Obviously the seller wanted to dump the boat, as quickly as possible for whatever reason. You wanted to investigate further, buyer number 2 had in cash in hand and wanted to pull it away immediately. Seller knew it probably wouldn't pass a survey and took the easy money. Consider yourself lucky.
Obviously the seller wanted to dump the boat, as quickly as possible for whatever reason. You wanted to investigate further, buyer number 2 had in cash in hand and wanted to pull it away immediately. Seller knew it probably wouldn't pass a survey and took the easy money. Consider yourself lucky.
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If the deposit was with a credit card, it's never too late. You should notify your credit card company ASAP that there might be a dispute. You don't have to file the dispute, but you should notify them anyway. As for the boat, don't settle. If you want a Cig, then wait to find the one you want and can afford or it will haunt you; it's like thinking you should have married the other girl...







