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05-20-2014 | 09:46 AM
#111
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Phil I applaud your tenacity and drive ,and I like cheering for the underdog...I usually keep my mouth shut on these type of threads But I have to say you're a cocky little prick...I have seen your FB pics of your fiberglass repairs on your jet ski's and paint jobs along with reading your comments on different threads and they leave a Lot To Be Desired...Just because you have worked some hours in a professional boat shop along side Qualified professionals Does Not Make You One...Building & Repairing boats is a Learned and Acquired skill that takes Decades to Master...At 19 years old You Have Not Mastered Paint Prep and Application or Lamination or any other facet in boat building & repair...I'm based in Rhode Island and your weather isn't much different then here and you haven't had 70 degree temps for the last month..I'm a month behind with my outside Awlgrip work and fiberglass work because of the temps along with the rest of the repair yards in the Northeast...There is a huge difference between ambient temp and substrate temps when dealing with catalyzed products and if you don't learn to control the two then it will seriously come back to bite you in the arse ,repair wise and liability wise...Seriously You Need to Lose the Cockiness and All Knowing Attitude and Listen and Learn,,,Their are some great guys on here with an incredible wealth of knowledge that could become Great Assets in Your Endeavor...I have been in the boat building & repair business for almost 30 yrs now ,highly skilled & trained & part of management in very high end yards building multi million dollar yachts and I Still Don't know it all..It's a constant learning experience to stay on top of your game because the products and application are constantly evolving...I have seen more people come and go in this business then stay and the majority of them where like you "Cocky" and just enough experience to be dangerous but not Skilled...Don't be stupid like them ,Learn the Trade and Apprentice with a Highly Skilled yard for at least 10 years,,,concentrate on your strengths and be smart enough to realize that you will never master every aspect of the trade but learn them...I wish you the best of luck and hope you lose the cockiness...
05-20-2014 | 02:35 PM
#112
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1 old pretty much what I've been saying of the course of my posts, side not where in RI and what do you run
05-21-2014 | 12:14 AM
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I'm not sure what road island has been doing but I'm pretty sure I've seen the thermometer inside my shop...I'm not trying to come across as I know everything, but when I say things like temperature and someone from another state tells me I haven't had those temps, and then tells me with out ever seeing my boat that I'm throwing this boat together it's annoying. Ive been using all US Composite materials, down to my putty knives. All 3M Roloc disks, snap on sanders, Durablock sanding blocks, sata paint guns, need I keep going? And wait... You paid 2800 for powder coat on trim tabs?! That sucks. I just paid 100 for 4 valve covers blasted and coated, got them back next day. 150 for my tabs. LOL like I said... It's all about connections.. And tim... That sucks. Come out this way and we can get you a hell of a lot more for 10g. I'll be sending you photos via FB soon. And back to the jetski ****... All of that was before I worked where I work. And learned the new ways. And things take time... But fixing fiberglass is pretty straight forward and when you do it 8 hours a day 5 days a week, then after hours on your own boat you tend to learn to perfect it very quick.. Those jetskis were thrown together just to get beat up... It's like saying I can't build a car because I threw a go cart together to run around and beat up. But I'm sure it'll keep getting brought up even later after multiple boats get done. "Ya he can't build a boat, did you see what he built when he was 15!!!!!"
05-21-2014 | 01:22 AM
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Before you support 315duramax
How would you feel if he illegally ran a business that competed with your legal business?
Is it ok for him to give advice to other members that is wrong, will cost them to waste money, and is unsafe?
Try searching all threads started by 315duramax and read up a little. He feels its ok to illegally haul boats, even if they are over width, with improper equipment, no DOT, no cargo insurance, all while undercutting others who are trying to make a living the legal way.
Guess its ok to support him if he sells drugs also?
There's a lot more to this kid then just a cocky attitude and this Cig build thread.
IF this was just a kid trying to restore his OWN boats, even if he was cocky, that would be one thing. This is a kid that is trying to run multiple side job style illegal business. HE IS THE REASON THAT THE REST OF AMERICA STRUGGLES TO MAKE A LIVING. He undercuts others driving the price down for the real business's. Just like the rest he will go out of business and then the next guy will come in and attempt the same thing.
You think he has drive? Drive? Or just Daddy's money? Would the drive still be there without Daddy's funding?
315duramax (Phil?)
I honestly hope you can learn from us and eventually become a valuable member to this community. I hope you can find a way to put your connections and funding to good use, along with some real drive and self motivation. I will start to respect you once you become legal. There is a lot more to running a business then what you THINK you have figured out so far. I have NO problem with you making mistakes or asking silly questions. They are good entertainment for OSO and we still WILL help you out, of coarse that is if you become legal. Seems like most of us agree that your current project will NOT make profit. You are not adding up your numbers correctly nor are you paying yourself (which actually needs to be reinvested into the business) enough for you time and work. etc etc etc etc etc. I could go on and on.
Good luck and PM me anytime if you want to chat on the phone. I have no problem helping anyone out. What I do have a problem with is sugar coating my thoughts!
How would you feel if he illegally ran a business that competed with your legal business?
Is it ok for him to give advice to other members that is wrong, will cost them to waste money, and is unsafe?
Try searching all threads started by 315duramax and read up a little. He feels its ok to illegally haul boats, even if they are over width, with improper equipment, no DOT, no cargo insurance, all while undercutting others who are trying to make a living the legal way.
Guess its ok to support him if he sells drugs also?
There's a lot more to this kid then just a cocky attitude and this Cig build thread.
IF this was just a kid trying to restore his OWN boats, even if he was cocky, that would be one thing. This is a kid that is trying to run multiple side job style illegal business. HE IS THE REASON THAT THE REST OF AMERICA STRUGGLES TO MAKE A LIVING. He undercuts others driving the price down for the real business's. Just like the rest he will go out of business and then the next guy will come in and attempt the same thing.
You think he has drive? Drive? Or just Daddy's money? Would the drive still be there without Daddy's funding?
315duramax (Phil?)
I honestly hope you can learn from us and eventually become a valuable member to this community. I hope you can find a way to put your connections and funding to good use, along with some real drive and self motivation. I will start to respect you once you become legal. There is a lot more to running a business then what you THINK you have figured out so far. I have NO problem with you making mistakes or asking silly questions. They are good entertainment for OSO and we still WILL help you out, of coarse that is if you become legal. Seems like most of us agree that your current project will NOT make profit. You are not adding up your numbers correctly nor are you paying yourself (which actually needs to be reinvested into the business) enough for you time and work. etc etc etc etc etc. I could go on and on.
Good luck and PM me anytime if you want to chat on the phone. I have no problem helping anyone out. What I do have a problem with is sugar coating my thoughts!
05-21-2014 | 06:15 AM
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Detailed pics will tell all
05-21-2014 | 06:45 AM
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You donkey banger can't read I see. 2800 wasn't on trim tabs mine are perfect wow dumb and illiterate. Surprised you could find the cigarette forum with out the ability to properly sound and spell it out. The US school system hard at work I see.
05-21-2014 | 06:56 AM
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Hahahahaha I'm the problem with America? OK. Daddy's money? Sure you can think that. I towed a few boats off uship to pay for trips to visit my gf. Far from "illegal business.. " I'm not getting wrapped up in a pissing contest with a bunch of middle aged guys. If you think I'm some illegal business doer comparable to selling drugs than you're ignorant. Ya I'm sure that Ben franklin was probably told there's no such thing as electricity. And that Steve jobs wouldn't make a computer.. Offshore exscursion... I didn't know you owned a boat shop and knew everything about building boats better yet what my margins are. I'm sure paying 3G for powder coating and 10g for a motor rebuild I wouldn't have any margin. Come see what my boat is before you run your mouth or make one more uninformed comment about me or my business ventures and ideas. YOU sir are the problem with current America. And yes, I don't normally say someone is wrong.. But in not sure your education or back round, but the definition of economic profit is creating wealth that was not there in the start. NO actually I do not need to pay myself for hours, anything bigger than my BOTTOM LINE. Is by definition economic profit. Have you ever started a business? Cause I'm pretty sure when you do so, from day one your not paying yourself a salary. We'll actually, you seem like quite the business mogul so maybe you did. So your telling me, should pay myself hourly wiry mowing lawns? And what my income I get every month is more than what I expense for the month.. REALLY ISNT profit?? Their must be magic happening or something because I've been supporting myself since 13 doing so.. so sir, why don't you not bother responding because I'm not sure google will give you an answer to what I just said. But I'm sure I'll get the "your cocky" and "your wrong" just take the liberal approach, Proove with facts and they just call you racist. Have a good day sir, I have better things to do than get in a pissing contest with a middle aged dude. Yes sure, call me any time! 315-247-3146 I'm sure when I post pictures they will be JPEG instead of PDF and there for not acceptable to you.
05-21-2014 | 07:06 AM
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what is the purchase price of the boat, renovation cost and selling price? we will see what happens, of course I am sure the numbers will be fudged to make you look right, but I know what you paid, I know what it takes to do the job right, and I know old Cafe's are not pulling muvch more then 35,000 AT BEST with small power, and I doubt even that.... if you do all glass work and aint in a week I can gaurantee its not done right.... I dont care what you know and buy, things need to sure properly.... the paint will be shrinking on the new buyer right after you sell it if you can sell it...I am sure the engines will be advertised as new too....
05-21-2014 | 07:07 AM
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Where is the "teaser" pics... if I was doing all this work this fast and bragging I would have tons of pics to show us wrong....lets see the "in progress" pics....or you hiding stuff???
05-21-2014 | 07:26 AM
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Hahahahaha I'm the problem with America? OK. Daddy's money? Sure you can think that. I towed a few boats off uship to pay for trips to visit my gf. Far from "illegal business.. " I'm not getting wrapped up in a pissing contest with a bunch of middle aged guys. If you think I'm some illegal business doer comparable to selling drugs than you're ignorant. Ya I'm sure that Ben franklin was probably told there's no such thing as electricity. And that Steve jobs wouldn't make a computer.. Offshore exscursion... I didn't know you owned a boat shop and knew everything about building boats better yet what my margins are. I'm sure paying 3G for powder coating and 10g for a motor rebuild I wouldn't have any margin. Come see what my boat is before you run your mouth or make one more uninformed comment about me or my business ventures and ideas. YOU sir are the problem with current America. And yes, I don't normally say someone is wrong.. But in not sure your education or back round, but the definition of economic profit is creating wealth that was not there in the start. NO actually I do not need to pay myself for hours, anything bigger than my BOTTOM LINE. Is by definition economic profit. Have you ever started a business? Cause I'm pretty sure when you do so, from day one your not paying yourself a salary. We'll actually, you seem like quite the business mogul so maybe you did. So your telling me, should pay myself hourly wiry mowing lawns? And what my income I get every month is more than what I expense for the month.. REALLY ISNT profit?? Their must be magic happening or something because I've been supporting myself since 13 doing so.. so sir, why don't you not bother responding because I'm not sure google will give you an answer to what I just said. But I'm sure I'll get the "your cocky" and "your wrong" just take the liberal approach, Proove with facts and they just call you racist. Have a good day sir, I have better things to do than get in a pissing contest with a middle aged dude. Yes sure, call me any time! 315-247-3146 I'm sure when I post pictures they will be JPEG instead of PDF and there for not acceptable to you.
