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#72
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The problem is that I can't seem to find too many manufacturers that don't build trailers with the bunks mounted the EXACT same way. Nextrails not too far from me, builds them the same, Fast Load, same way, Oh and Magic Tilts across the street from me for over 60 years, I was by there place last week and they had quite a few, as in dozens, built the same way.
I'll be sure to let the Magic Tilt guys know that there engineering department must have gotten mixed up with their recreational diving board department when they were designing trailers.
Fiberglass diving board. lol. Another internet win.
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^^^ This guy is trying to sound positive but I have this feeling he`s not positive at all!
So everyone builds those diving board trailers? Are they trying to save on material so lets just hang a bunch wood off the back? mmmm I don`t think so.
I think you`re just mad cause your trailer is too short so someone added longer bunks to make up for it.
If I build a house can I just stop with the foundation 20' from the end?
I guess I`m just a full support kind of guy, I want the heaviest part of my boat under a trailer. I`m weird like that
have a super fantastic day!
I just need some longer bunks!!
So everyone builds those diving board trailers? Are they trying to save on material so lets just hang a bunch wood off the back? mmmm I don`t think so.
I think you`re just mad cause your trailer is too short so someone added longer bunks to make up for it.
If I build a house can I just stop with the foundation 20' from the end?
I guess I`m just a full support kind of guy, I want the heaviest part of my boat under a trailer. I`m weird like that
have a super fantastic day!
I just need some longer bunks!!

Last edited by ICDEDPPL; 12-04-2015 at 09:03 AM.
#75
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I'm just a nobody when it comes to this stuff. But like I said, I'll let the Magic Tilt guys know they've been doing it wrong since 1953.
We should all get a petition together to send out to the trailer builders to let them know we figured out their mistake and want them to fire their incompetent engineers, leave the diving board industry to the professionals and start building them trailers the right way.
We should all get a petition together to send out to the trailer builders to let them know we figured out their mistake and want them to fire their incompetent engineers, leave the diving board industry to the professionals and start building them trailers the right way.
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From: Temecula, CA
^^^ This guy is trying to sound positive but I have this feeling he`s not positive at all!
So everyone builds those diving board trailers? Are they trying to save on material so lets just hang a bunch wood off the back? mmmm I don`t think so.
I think you`re just mad cause your trailer is too short so someone added longer bunks to make up for it.
If I build a house can I just stop with the foundation 20' from the end?
I guess I`m just a full support kind of guy, I want the heaviest part of my boat under a trailer. I`m weird like that
have a super fantastic day!
I just need some longer bunks!!

So everyone builds those diving board trailers? Are they trying to save on material so lets just hang a bunch wood off the back? mmmm I don`t think so.
I think you`re just mad cause your trailer is too short so someone added longer bunks to make up for it.
If I build a house can I just stop with the foundation 20' from the end?
I guess I`m just a full support kind of guy, I want the heaviest part of my boat under a trailer. I`m weird like that
have a super fantastic day!
I just need some longer bunks!!


#77
I'm not a structural engineer and God forbid I come off negative. But id really like someone to explain to me why some trailer manufacturers do the short I-beam / bunks hanging off style trailers. I never understood that style of build and always thought the trailer looks unfinished or for a shorter boat. And I don't understand why you'd put unsupported supports at the heaviest part of the boat.
I'd love someone to actually explain it. I've always wondered. And I've never seen myco, manning, skater, lugo or any of the others in the industry that are considered elite, build a trailer like that.
I had a south Florida trailer - aluminum bolt together I-beam - under my gun for years. It was a good trailer but it was full length as well.
I'd love someone to actually explain it. I've always wondered. And I've never seen myco, manning, skater, lugo or any of the others in the industry that are considered elite, build a trailer like that.
I had a south Florida trailer - aluminum bolt together I-beam - under my gun for years. It was a good trailer but it was full length as well.
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Ohhh, now I get it. So the part where its built like thousands of other trailers makes it wrong. Gotcha, now I understand.
The problem is that I can't seem to find too many manufacturers that don't build trailers with the bunks mounted the EXACT same way. Nextrails not too far from me, builds them the same, Fast Load, same way, Oh and Magic Tilts across the street from me for over 60 years, I was by there place last week and they had quite a few, as in dozens, built the same way.
I'll be sure to let the Magic Tilt guys know that there engineering department must have gotten mixed up with their recreational diving board department when they were designing trailers.
Fiberglass diving board. lol. Another internet win.
The problem is that I can't seem to find too many manufacturers that don't build trailers with the bunks mounted the EXACT same way. Nextrails not too far from me, builds them the same, Fast Load, same way, Oh and Magic Tilts across the street from me for over 60 years, I was by there place last week and they had quite a few, as in dozens, built the same way.
I'll be sure to let the Magic Tilt guys know that there engineering department must have gotten mixed up with their recreational diving board department when they were designing trailers.
Fiberglass diving board. lol. Another internet win.
As mentioned, I purchased a trailer 2 years ago from Real Extreme who did not cut corners, meaning the aluminum I beams extend back to where the bunks terminate. It is my opinion the companies you mention cut corners to save on the cost of aluminum. Tragic really. You cant argue with physics. Cantilvered beam deflection is a function of beam length and load over the modulus and inertial moment of said beam. Beam stress and deflection is proportional to the unsupported length. Simply put the longer the beam the more it will deflect. Given the bunks are routinely wetted and dried will probably exasturbate the problem, resulting in the wood warping (similar to what someone posted earlier). Do you see Manning or Myco extending there wood bunks beyond the main I beams? I haven't. There's my 0.02.
#79
Wow, thread hijack.
I've said this many times before. I trailer is a tool that accompanies your boat.
You can buy a Phillips screwdriver from Wal*Mart.
You can buy a Phillips screwdriver from a SnapOn wagon.
They both do the job.
But...
How long they do the job.
How well they do the job.
And the investment made by professional who wants a quality tool...
--are vastly different conversations.
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I've said this many times before. I trailer is a tool that accompanies your boat.
You can buy a Phillips screwdriver from Wal*Mart.
You can buy a Phillips screwdriver from a SnapOn wagon.
They both do the job.
But...
How long they do the job.
How well they do the job.
And the investment made by professional who wants a quality tool...
--are vastly different conversations.
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From: Clearwater, Florida
Trailer engineering department? You are kidding right? For validation of there designs I am sure they implement all kinds of process controls, testing, batch testing, sampling plans, material allowable verification, road testing, environmental tests, dimensional studies, etc. HAHA.
No, your right, a company who has been building trailers since 1953 probably has no form of engineering department. I guess they've just got lucky winging it, right buddy?
I guess only the "Elite" manufacturers build trailers that work properly. I guess only the "Elite" manufacturers build boats that are safe also. Lets kick the other 95% to the curb and all buy Skaters with Mycos so we can be sure those fiberglass diving boards are never seen again.



