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Straight bottoms are losing speed by the post! First it was 12-15mph faster now it`s 20mph slower .:p
I may have to cut in some steps if I can go 110mph with my power. :angry-smiley-038: I kinda see what you`re saying... |
Originally Posted by 302Sport
(Post 4684493)
When people compare the ride of a TS to a straight bottom and say the straight bottom is more of a wave crusher, you have to take into account the speed the boat is traveling when these comparisons are made. Here is what I am saying:
525 Straight bottom TG max speed 65mph cruise 45mph 525 TS TG max speed 85mph cruise 65mph Now say the water is really rough, to make a fair comparison, pull that TS boat back to the same speed as the straight bottom would be running (45mph) and compare the ride. I'll be willing to bet at 45mph you dont see a difference. No, bring them both to 65mph where the straight bottom is trimmed out for max speed and the TS is tucked in, running flat, I'll bet the TS ride is better in the rough at that speed. |
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4684502)
Straight bottoms are losing speed by the post! First it was 12-15mph faster now it`s 20mph slower .:p
I may have to cut in some steps if I can go 110mph with my power. :angry-smiley-038: I kinda see what you`re saying... |
Originally Posted by cigrocket
(Post 4683970)
As with most boats, depends on condition, and equipment. Look at prices, obviously if engines have 300+ hours on them and need attention the price is going to be lower, if interior is beat, gauges original, paint work, Drives need rebuild. Prices will be lower. But TS boats that have 10-15 hours on EFI motors, Newly rebuilt XR drives, Imco Lowers, updated interiors, covers, newer trailers are always going to command the money. Hard to compare boats.
How much parted out do : 2 Newly Rebuilt Mercury EFI Engines go for 2 Newly Rebuilt XR Drives with IMCO Lowers, Transom Assembly New Style CMI Headers 2 5-6 Blade Props All New Gauges, New panels New Trailer Add the equipment. It all depends. Interior work and Covers also add a premium. Lots of factors and options Not to mention some boats have paint that sometimes shows age, ugly or just not what the buyer wants. You are right spot on with this comment! I had to chuckle to myself a year ago when I posed the question looking for opinions on new or old rebuilt Bravos vs new with warranty, so many were quick to say never worth the money, never add to value of the boat. I spent less than 3 grand for new over quoted, but maybe not the total, estimated rebuild cost. Mind you no guarantee at all on rebuild. And these are the extra cost Seacore hard anodized finish to boot. Last fall I had the motors pulled for the normal top end service few weeks back I decided and told my motor guy to take them all the way down, take a look see, put them back with anything they might need. So far new rings, bearings, new and better oil pumps, seals gaskets etc., size the rod big ends if needed, all the best bottom end chit. I was already in it for all new Manley SD valves, Isky springs, Crower SS rockers, new roller lifters, etc. from a guy that accepts nothing less than dead on exact as a result. This is after finding nothing wrong to start with. So I would assume that my Fountain would not be worth a penny more than another 35 Fountain with worn out drives and some tired old beat to chit 525's just hanging on. Right! Very good used Perf boats are getting harder to come by these days, fewer are being built, many have been rode hard and put away wet more than once, and it shows. New are just priced out of reach for most of us, so the search is on for the best of the best used out there. Those boats will today, and going forward command, and be worthy of, a premium due to their overall condition. Had a few inquires on mine, threw a number, was told you're a little rich on that Fine! You are free to just go find another. Have a Nice Day! |
302 , I confused by your comment on having to trim out a straight bottom in really big water . If the waves are real 2 footers or better i would think you wouldn't have to trim the heck out it to get max speed . At least I don't with my flat deck . I like to run my old tub along side a TS in 3 to 4 footers at 65 to 70 and see what the real difference is . In that kind of water I don't think much of any of the steps would in the water . But i have not driven a stepped boat so I really can't comment . Would be interesting though.
RG. |
I may be wrong but I don`t see how stepped bottoms in 3' waves is so much faster. The water is basically the poor mans steps. Hull is aerated either way.
Going from small chop to some decent waves water is like a nitrous shot in my boat, she loves it . lol |
Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4684591)
I may be wrong but I don`t see how stepped bottoms in 3' waves are any faster. The water is basically the poor mans steps. Hull is aerated either way.
Going from small chop to some decent waves water is like a nitrous shot in my boat, she loves it . lol |
Originally Posted by underpsi68
(Post 4684595)
Honest question, how much faster is your boat in 3ft waves? Will it run the same speed as the newer boats under these conditions?
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Weight to power ratio plays a huge factor and my boat is 16,000lbs on trailer .Boat building methods were old school, none of the newer methods were available . So my boat will always be slower then a newer construction boat . Flat decks are tanks.
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Originally Posted by ICDEDPPL
(Post 4684591)
I may be wrong but I don`t see how stepped bottoms in 3' waves is so much faster. The water is basically the poor mans steps. Hull is aerated either way.
Going from small chop to some decent waves water is like a nitrous shot in my boat, she loves it . lol |
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