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frickstyle 05-01-2019 07:04 AM

Too many opinions and favorites being played here.

Sounds like we need a real world side-by-side comparison. (Like this hasn't been beaten to death ever since the T/S design came out)

I still think the T/S will be faster no matter what, and I have an old non-stepped boat, so I'm certainly not beating my own drum here. They will carry a better average speed.

I'm on the Great Lakes, and I would rather have the T/S!

Back to selling prices; in the end, would be nice to have real data on what the boats are actually selling for. I do think that well taken care of boats in a market where there is little relative supply, will be commanding a premium. Buy a $150K boat that needs nothing, or buy a $100K boat that needs $50K.....

Drock78 05-01-2019 08:30 AM

Let's be real here...if you're running legit 3 footers, the steps aren't doing anything so that argument is irrelevant.

jbraun2828 05-01-2019 09:20 PM

3 footers aren’t going to make a straight bottom run 80 mph though like a t/s. People with steps love their boats and people without steps love their boats so who gives a chit. They’re all cool boats and It seems that everyone is happy with what they have.
PS, I would love to run circles around full force in his wave crushing machine. I was convinced the mistress was the best hull ever but now it’s the 38

Full Force 05-02-2019 04:56 AM

Jbean let it go, I am not the only person that says that, he’ll Dan said same thing, yet youcall me out.... you know what I say to that.... soooo I love how others can say the same things I do and I get called out, it’s honestly comical. It’s no secret overall straight hulls do better, but go forbid FF Tim says a word Lololol some of you people literally crack me up, hope you feel better about yourself today, you made the FF Tim comment

Drock78 05-02-2019 05:06 AM

I'm just saying that in legit lake Michigan 3 footers, the steps are a very small part of the equation because they are likely being utilized 5% of the time.

boatnt 05-02-2019 08:01 AM

You know what they say, they don’t build them like they used too,and there’s a good reason why,

frickstyle 05-02-2019 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by jbraun2828 (Post 4684820)
3 footers aren’t going to make a straight bottom run 80 mph though like a t/s. People with steps love their boats and people without steps love their boats so who gives a chit. They’re all cool boats and It seems that everyone is happy with what they have.
PS, I would love to run circles around full force in his wave crushing machine. I was convinced the mistress was the best hull ever but now it’s the 38

You ever come down to Lake Erie our way? We should get together. What does your boat have again? You have big power and drives, correct? I would imagine that your boat would smoke mine, in any water. Regardless, I'd love to see your boat.

80mph in true 3 ftrs, I would love to see that. Personally, I wouldn't do it in anything under 42-46ft. Call me a wuss but I've been there, done that and spun. (granted it was prob a 5 to 6 ft rouge wave/hole) HOWEVER, I've wised up and I just don't do that anymore.

jbraun2828 05-02-2019 09:00 AM


Originally Posted by Full Force (Post 4684856)
Jbean let it go, I am not the only person that says that, he’ll Dan said same thing, yet youcall me out.... you know what I say to that.... soooo I love how others can say the same things I do and I get called out, it’s honestly comical. It’s no secret overall straight hulls do better, but go forbid FF Tim says a word Lololol some of you people literally crack me up, hope you feel better about yourself today, you made the FF Tim comment

i think you take Internet forums a little to serious. Your chip on your shoulder attitude is why people give you chit all the time. Dan doesn’t go around saying his boat is the best because it’s his. We all love our boats as we should, they’re all cigarettes. I disagree with you when you say a straight bottom rides better than a t/s. I’ve had both and I prefer a stepped boat. Have you ever ridden in a 39? If so, I’d like to hear your thoughts on that hull. I’m not ever going to bash someone’s boat or tell them mine is better than theirs. If we were at the dock together I’d give you a beer and talk cigarettes all day.

jbraun2828 05-02-2019 09:09 AM


Originally Posted by frickstyle (Post 4684904)
You ever come down to Lake Erie our way? We should get together. What does your boat have again? You have big power and drives, correct? I would imagine that your boat would smoke mine, in any water. Regardless, I'd love to see your boat.

80mph in true 3 ftrs, I would love to see that. Personally, I wouldn't do it in anything under 42-46ft. Call me a wuss but I've been there, done that and spun. (granted it was prob a 5 to 6 ft rouge wave/hole) HOWEVER, I've wised up and I just don't do that anymore.

frick, I try to get over your way at least every other year. We love coming over to the islands. We usually wait until September so it’s not so busy. We launch in Monroe and drive over. My boat has 700’s and nxt’s. I’d love to come drink beer with all you guys over there. Are you coming back up to boyne this year? I saw you running around last year, we go up every year but don’t do the poker run.

BBYSTWY 05-02-2019 09:20 AM

Just noticed you are from grand haven jbraun...are you a west Michigan offshore member? I'm hoping to do a few of their events this summer one being the Muskegon powerboat weekend...assuming my boat is together of course lol


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