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Nickg3130 10-27-2024 05:16 PM

38 Flatdeck “over compensated” any info?
 
Hey guys, so I put a small deposit on a 1984 38 Flatdeck named “over compensated”. Was wondering if anyone had some insight on the history of this boat. Apparently the boat was from Texas at one point and went up to Ohio. The gentleman who restored the boat passed years ago and sat after the restoration. Seems to have put a ton of time and money into paint and up dates. Motors are un known but run. Have 871 blowers and super chillers. Believe the drives are #2s or 3s with sportmaster lowers, borg transmissions. It’s a dream boat of mine for what I think is a fair price. Apparently Kevlar hull too. Haven’t seen it in person yet but pictures/videos make the boat look amazing for its age. Will post some now
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...886b62685.jpeg
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thisistank 10-27-2024 05:48 PM

Congrats! Thing seems very nice.

seafordguy 10-27-2024 06:18 PM

Congrats!!

Flatdecks just always look like they means business!

offshorexcursion 10-27-2024 09:39 PM

Cool boat!

I saw some of your posts on FB and didn't want to comment and seem negative but hopefully someone on here has some good info. I would definitely recommend asking OSO more questions before you buy it though.

bigboat28 10-28-2024 04:01 PM

Congrats, looks nice!!

jeff32 10-28-2024 04:30 PM

wow !
outstanding for an older boat ! That's my style of boat !
my sight unseen guess would be...
tough call but... 30k-50k ?
depending how power train inspection / health...

jeff32 10-28-2024 04:56 PM

I know of 3 projects scarab 38 for sale
and keep talking myself out of them...
tough duty i have to admit !

Nickg3130 10-28-2024 07:17 PM

Thanks guys. Was debating taking it without power for low 30s but I think if the power checks out I should be ahead of the game. I just wondered what the history of the hull was or if there was any info on the resto.

jeff32 10-28-2024 07:26 PM

30k was a guess assuming there's is a recent survey stating no transom or stringers rot! Otherwise that is a whole different story...

CigaretteSam 10-28-2024 09:26 PM

I'm pretty sure i saw a video of that one on FB with the motors running. It sounded good

tommymonza 10-28-2024 09:26 PM


Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4912792)
30k was a guess assuming there's is a recent survey stating no transom or stringers rot! Otherwise that is a whole different story...

also what the interior condition is and have the gas tanks been replaced.

87CigCafe 10-28-2024 10:56 PM

Video
 
I thought I had the video from the guy who bought it from the OTHER on market place but I can’t seem to find. Engines were running and sound nice. I almost drug it home for some reason myself

Nickg3130 10-30-2024 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by tommymonza (Post 4912800)
also what the interior condition is and have the gas tanks been replaced.

yes new tanks stringers and transom have been done. Interior is in awesome shape it just needs some flooring in the cabin the carpet is out of it. Probably do sea dek or possibly hardwood like I did in my 24 Pantera

offshorexcursion 10-30-2024 11:09 PM

Curious what OSO thinks engines make for power?

Will the drives reliably handle it?

Top speed?

Ironmanwb 10-31-2024 05:54 AM

I had a brief moment I wanted to go up and buy it just to have a running boat but decided the divorce was probably going to cost too much. That boat was located next to the shop that mine has been in forever.

Nickg3130 11-10-2024 06:44 PM

Well it’s official. Brought her home today from
michigan to NJ. Can’t wait to start upgrading this thing over the winter https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2fcc06bab.jpeg

Craney 11-10-2024 07:10 PM

Congratulations is the Pantera for sale?

Nickg3130 11-10-2024 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4914303)
Congratulations is the Pantera for sale?


nooo I want to try and keep both. I dumped way too much coin into the Pantera. Going to try and modernize the flat deck a little more mechanically like the Pantera is down the road.

scippy 11-10-2024 10:19 PM

are those ssm 3's

Nickg3130 11-11-2024 07:18 AM


Originally Posted by scippy (Post 4914321)
are those ssm 3's

no unfortunately they’re 2’s. Going to upgrade to most likely 5s

CIG3 11-11-2024 08:42 AM

Congrats. Looks like a great boat. Don't bother with 5's. Get yourself a nice set of 3A's for better reliability and she will be a wave crusher for years to come. The effort to convert to 5's is not that rewarding for gains in speed for such a heavy boat.

ICDEDPPL 11-11-2024 11:06 AM

Very hard to get parts for 3s and 5s ... best thing I ever did was go sixes. You can find deals on wet sump.

kreed 11-11-2024 03:36 PM

I thought that SSM#2's and TRS drives both had the same transom assembly or at least the same bolt pattern? If so, then maybe you can find a pair of Konrad 540's or whatever Konrad makes these days..... is Konrad still in business??

cig28 11-12-2024 06:04 AM

If you go 3’s or 3A’s or 5’s your going to need the correct transom assemblies. Those drive will not mount to the trs transom assembly.

offshoredrillin 11-12-2024 09:11 AM

Congrats Nick!

jeff32 11-12-2024 04:53 PM


Originally Posted by cig28 (Post 4914435)
If you go 3’s or 3A’s or 5’s your going to need the correct transom assemblies. Those drive will not mount to the trs transom assembly.

Agreed

the TRS assembly and upper TRS drive were the same as SSM 2
the only difference would be the SSM2 lower fits on the TRS upper

So anything else like cig28 mention will need some new parts!

Nickg3130 11-12-2024 10:43 PM


Originally Posted by jeff32 (Post 4914480)
Agreed

the TRS assembly and upper TRS drive were the same as SSM 2
the only difference would be the SSM2 lower fits on the TRS upper

So anything else like cig28 mention will need some new parts!

yes I know they take different gimbals for the ssm’s. I figure either way in order to hold power I need to change atleast transom assembly’s.

SSM’s being easiest but hardest to get parts for.
Wet sump #6s being the best but most expensive
Bravos only benefit is probably being cheapest down the road.

Really just depends on what becomes available or easily accessible for me at this point. Probably leaning towards SSM’s

Got Cigs 11-13-2024 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by Nickg3130 (Post 4914300)
Well it’s official. Brought her home today from
michigan to NJ. Can’t wait to start upgrading this thing over the winter https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...2fcc06bab.jpeg

Congrats!! great looking boat. Would that to be the Wawa in Mt Olive? Where in NJ do you boat?

Nickg3130 11-13-2024 08:07 PM


Originally Posted by Got Cigs (Post 4914544)
Congrats!! great looking boat. Would that to be the Wawa in Mt Olive? Where in NJ do you boat?

that off of 206? If so then yes lol. I boat mainly up in the Navesink/raritan with my 24 Pantera. But the cig will probably be in the barnegat-raritan bay mostly. Occasional trip down to the Chesapeake.

Got Cigs 11-13-2024 08:23 PM

Yea, that's it. lol Do you do any of the Spartan Powerboat Club runs in the Barnegat?

Quinlan 11-14-2024 09:48 AM

They still have to pump your fuel in NJ? if so, bet they hate when you pull up lol

Craney 11-14-2024 04:58 PM

With a boat,motorcycles or diesel truck you can pump your own.

Nickg3130 11-16-2024 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by Got Cigs (Post 4914586)
Yea, that's it. lol Do you do any of the Spartan Powerboat Club runs in the Barnegat?

I haven’t don’t one yet honestly. I know about the club but I’ve never had a big enough boat to run with them lol.


Originally Posted by Quinlan (Post 4914639)
They still have to pump your fuel in NJ? if so, bet they hate when you pull up lol

They do but I only let them pump my beater 96 Tahoe or my girls jeep. Every other truck i own is diesel which is self serve and I don’t let them get to close to the boats.

Nickg3130 12-08-2024 07:39 AM

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...70a8c1bac.jpeg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...369067af7.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...e2d8e783c.jpeg

Little update, just brought her back from getting custom canvas cover made. Stoked on how it came out.

Next big step is to find some drives

Craney 12-08-2024 09:37 AM

Cover looks good,what drives are you looking for?

Nickg3130 12-08-2024 10:28 AM


Originally Posted by Craney (Post 4915959)
Cover looks good,what drives are you looking for?

thanks. I’m tossing up going with ssm v’s with boxes as I found a set not far from me, arnesons if the deal is right. Or just save up for some #6s. Either will be a lot of work but worth it in the long run I think. Especially the 6s

thisistank 12-08-2024 11:11 AM

I vote 6’s 😁😁😁


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3557b97ca.jpeg




boat looks great by the way. Cover is bad Azz!!

Nickg3130 12-08-2024 12:33 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4915965)
I vote 6’s 😁😁😁


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...3557b97ca.jpeg




boat looks great by the way. Cover is bad Azz!!


Ugh I’m drooling. I love a clean transom set up too also another reason I’m leaning towards them.

For it's age, the boat is really really nice. It has a few blems here and there that id love to have gone through but the custom paint definitely makes it hard. Another downfall to the sixes is all the transom work that’ll need to be done. But most guys I’m seeing with a solid color transom does keep the boat nice and clean looking. Since I’m doing most of the work myself I’ll probably end up just painting the transom all black to keep it simple.

thisistank 12-08-2024 05:41 PM

I think a black transom would actually look nice. I get why they did it in green it flows with the graphics but black will also flow from the engine cover down the back.

Nickg3130 12-08-2024 06:32 PM


Originally Posted by thisistank (Post 4915986)
I think a black transom would actually look nice. I get why they did it in green it flows with the graphics but black will also flow from the engine cover down the back.

I agree, I think id probably end up re powder coating the swim platform green too. Maybe even do the drives green. Do people powder coat the 6’s or paint them typically?


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