cougar cats
 

So can anyone out there list the build order for the wood class 1, 2 & 3 Cougars and the ali Cougar cats. I have listed a start can anyone add or take this on.

Class 3 wood: Vollare, Hy Mac, Tiger Tiger, Black Panther, Aristocat, Pluto Cat, Catapult, The Sting, Pretty Boy, Aquaglide, The Specialist, Gus it, Toleman Group (Twins boat), Clarke Group..........?

Class 1 wood: Yellowdrame 38' (Limit up / Benihana / Satisfaction), Kaama 38' (Flap Jack), Beep Beep 35'?, Rampage 38' (Mr. Roberts), Toleman Group 3?' (Central seat boat), Fayva Shoes 1 3?', Arneson 38', Fayva shoes 2 39', Satisfaction 41'........?

Class 1 & 2 Aluminium: Roman Sabre 32' (Class 2), Michelob Light 38' (Joel Halpern), Toleman Group 38' (Slick 50), Limit up, Sehawk 1, Seahawk 2, ACR Systems, Special Edition, Supercat, Macavity, Clarke Group, Babycresci, Sireg, Rocky Euromarche, Bagutta, Paul Picot, Popeye ...........?

I think you need to get a hold of Steve Curtis!!!!

You also dont have any of the larger ones

You need to get in touch with Flying Fish who already has a list together for just about every manufacturer out there! where are you Graham?!

I don't think Special Edition never had a Cougar Cat......

Joe Mach, Class I aluminum

Cougar listing
 

Have passed my cougar listing to JCUK,via `e` mail Nige.I have not cracked how to get a spreadsheet on to a site via `management attachments`.Maybe you just can`t do it or are you going to enlighten me.

Flying Fish,

Scan the document to your computers
Desk Top, then up-load to O.S.O. Program.
That should do it.

Crash-Box

How about something like this , someone else can fill in the blanks.

US Aluminum Cougar Cats

Beep-Beep
Popeyes (50')
Gentry (46')
Morales's (46')
Eric's Reality (48')
Spirit of the Amazon (48')
SeaHawk(1)
SeaHawk(2)
SeaHawk(3)
Systems (1)
Systems (2)
Dirty Laundry/Rivited
ChairMan of the Board
Spirit of America
Budweiser/GoodWrench/Copycat
Still Crazy/Coors Light
Mr Roberts
Scheer (UnRigged Boat in Michigan)
Endangered Species

how about

endergerd species
bud/goodwrench/network express

I believe that Endangered Species was originally another boat raced in Europe.

I forgot the Budweiser boat too....built for the OPT open class....

cant forget spirit of america

jag

Yes. D'Elia had a 30' Shadow, 30' Chris, 21' Superboat, 24' Skater & 35' Jag.....I don't know what they had before that.

hey Ryan

Wasn't there only 2 Systems cougars? I could be wrong, i thought i remember a red one...

I believe there was the first open cockpit boat, then second canopy boat, then 3rd canopy boat. the 1st and 2nd boats may have been one though.

yeah the first two were the same, they just added the canopy. Then they had the bat boat which was also named Gentry. I do remember a red systems boat i will look for the picture that was a cougar and had a single center canopy. where the driver and throttleman sat behind one another. i will look for it tonight.

The red one was Tekne Lambo, Ragazzi bought it and Kaiser/Curtis ran it in KW one year. It is actually right near me here in Florida. It has sat in a building for 10 years collecting dust.

i think the year was 1995 first race in key west it was named systems and the 2nd race bernie little but budwiser on it. i believe that was Bob's last race

What happened to Bob why did he stop racing? We should start a thread titled "Where are they now"

Bob is alive and well living in grosse pointe michigan he was 2 kids and is divorced. I know he often conplains about a sore back from all his years of racing.

I spoke with BK at the Al Copeland memorial race, he was there checking things out.

to this list of US tin cats Cougar needs to add:
-The Collection then become Seahawk (1), then Team Seahawk.
-Sprinter then become the Seahawk (2-36')
-Michelob Light of 41' that Gentry brought to Viareggio for the world finals of the 1984.
-Mr. Roberts was the former Cabrera that the German Ehrich drove to 1984 KW but that it had the star and stripes on the sides and that it was the former Michelob Light where Halpern died.
This is how much I remember and flying fish perhaps has already in its list.

sprinter became systems first boat

[QUOTE=Ryan Beckley;2721432]I believe that Endangered Species was originally another boat raced in Europe.

True that Ryan. For anyone interested, Endangered Species is running & ready for sale in southeast Michigan. Check http://emeraldcityharbor.com/pre_enjoyed_listings.htm for more info.......would be great to see her out on the poker run and / or racing circuit again. bWd

Cougar Listings
 

I have scanned my lists `crash box`.It`s something I was hoping to by-pass to get on to the site.It may well be unreadable.Any updates from anyone would be welcome,it`s not the be all end all by any means.

That should put the cat amongst the pigeons........you're the man Graham!

You are right!
I should not trust too much of my mind.
However the rest that I have written should be correct.

Cougar list update
 

There are always updates.Boatmad.com has revealed that Carr`s Tenke Lamborghini became Budweiser then American Thunder.Have not logged Budweiser as I have no record of it racing.Also,after trawling through past data it may well be that 1982 Peter Stuyvesant II also raced in 1983.The Gentry Turbo Eagle of 1985 (ex-Limit Up) was also raced in 1986 and 1990.In other words it was not ex-1981 Arneson Drives.Problem is with unearthing these details is there is so much conflicting info to piece together.

I believe that Gentry had a 46 (aluminum) a 48 (wood) and a 38 (wood).

T2x

Also Ted Tolmans aluminium cat

Hi T2x: Gentry also had a 41` Aluminum cat that Brownie and I wrote about on some of the past threads. Boat never raced All the rivets were drilled out and replaced with flush type, then the boat was polished. The boat was going to run Donavan small blocks with turbo`s for open class. Motors were in the tunnel with merc outdrives. Gentry modified the boat in Calif shop, he put 14" wide flat plate where the V-on the keels were. Dick Banks and I tested the boat several times, and was the scariest rides we were ever on, the boat got so much tail lift it would push the bow into the water, and then would spin out on it`s own, we got so used to spinning out, it almost became fun, like one of those rides when you are waiting for something to happen. The 38` wood cat Gentry bought from Toleman, it was the one he and Smitty set the kilo record in on Lake Windemere, it sat in front of the Cougar factory on 188th for long time, it was on a tilt trailer. Smitty had cut a lot of weight out of the boat to make it light, it was scary. We then had the ex-arneson 48` four engine wood boat, Sammie James had the 50/48 alum four engine boat, as well as the 38` wood twin engine boat I think Tony Garcia/arneson could have been Eddie Trottas boat ??????? not sure what boat it was. Maybe info. will clear up some info. required. That makes a total of five boats for Gentry.

Hey Richie,

Which Gentry boat went to the bottom in Northport? As I recall, they tore a drive off and it sunk like a stone.

I think it was Sammie James in the Alum 50/48 but they recovered it??????? not 100% sure, those were the days of Sammie and Tom, I was out of the picture for a year or so with Tom. It could have been the 38` twin as I never saw that boat again, and know of no history where it is, Probably was that boat, I never saw it in Calif. or anyplace else.

We stretched Toleman's 38' Aluminum cat to 46' and put in 4 Sabre Diesels on Arnesons. Ted and Smitty sank it at Land's End in the Around Britain race. Tom's 48' cat became Tom's 50' cat (stretched by Connor). Ted's lightweight 38' cat was sold to Tom. It was wrecked in the early 90's by Norman Gentry and John Connor in a race in California. The Budweiser cat had Turbo Chevy engines and was to raced by Jeff Soffer. I don't think it ever finished a race as Budweiser. I don't remember what it was next, but then again, I don't remember how many drinks I had for breakfast.........

Was the Popyes 50 foot Goetz cat designed by Cougar? What involvement did they have in it?

No, quite the contrary. Peter Birkett quit Cougar and struck out on his own. He did Branson's second Atlantic challenger (successful), Gentry Eagle Atlantic challenger (successful) and the Goetz cat, not so successful. It was full of innovations, and a bunch of non-hull features that were out of his control. He did lots of projects (I worked with him on a couple). He is a good friend, and is coming to stay with me in February. He has been in Turkey and China lately.

Brownie thanks for the response. Can you describe some of the non-hull features that you spoke about?

Bill Sirois and Mike Seay designed fixed drives, much like the ones on the big Lavin boat. I think they were adjustable in the hoist. They also switched to big Ford engines. They just never got it all together at the same time.

Hi Richie,
You speak about this 41' of Gentry?

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Cougar Update List
 

This is a part update list in light of recent comments.
Brownie states Budweiser had 2 x Chevys raced by Soffer,but which Budweiser? The single cockpit ex Carr Tenke Lamborghini or twin cockpit boat that became Mr.Goodwrench.
Brownie`s comment re Norm Gentry sank 38ft boat ties in with it being ex-Limit Up of 1980.Thanks for that.Now for the confusing bit.Richie states 38ft wood cat Gentry bought from Toleman and set Winderemere record in, sat in Cougar factory on 188th for a long time.
A far as I can ascertain the wood 38ft Limit Up 1980 became Peter Stuyvesant in 1981 and put a hole in it during Needles race 1981.Then Gentry bought it for 1985 (red/white paint job) and also raced it in Auckland 1986 (white paint job).then Norm Gentry sank it in 1990.
A second 38ft wood indentical to Peter Stuyvesant of 1981,was built for toleman in 1982.This set the winderemere record,and also raced in Venice in 1983 according to Marco`s records.Question is ,did this boat also go to U.S. as per Richie`s comment.
I have no further record of Gentry`s 1984 boat Michelob Light,which is another 38ft not mentioned in the posts.
So we have 2 x 38ft,1 x 46ft,1 x 48/50ft and a non raced 41ft for Gentry.
Sorry to labour the point,but this is typical of the sort of work it takes to keep a definitive history of the boats.Stiil you `T` men know all about grinding away at the job in hand to get things right.