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Anyone remember this Cig Mistress with the raised rear deck, it was sold and went to Ohio around 1988. Is it still on Lake Erie ?
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Originally Posted by legend
(Post 3847579)
Classes: A, B, C. D, Production, Mod, Sport, RWYB (Local) , Powder Puff (Women Driver) and then they changed from there to over priced racing "NASCAR Boat Racing" or production classes, V,Super V's ect. and then to nothing. The little guy was gone. Prize money over pride, Volunteer's, Economy, Interest in the sport or just the change of time.
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Originally Posted by lucky strike
(Post 3847733)
You could race 25 or 30 APBA & club races around the country if you chose to. We ran all the APBA & most of the club races for years.
The fastest boats didn't always win. You had to finish over a hundred miles in the ocean & navigation was key. No such thing as GPS. |
----To back up H20s picture, the Mistress was a 1979. Had speedy 3s and crash-boxes, dry exhaust, and mixed up motors when sold. One 540 and one 454. Also had 4 tanks and all the stuff to move fuel around, as well as full teak package. I was also told by the guy that bought it that he found out it was a Kevlar hull. I owned it 3 years and never knew that.
----I heard thru the grapevine that it may have been painted black after I sold her, but not sure on that point. Id love to know if the boat still exists.......Bill S |
That is Frank Cichon and Bob Nielson in Golden Eagle photos 1 and 2. And mom (Kathy White) pops up again in 4 and 7. she raced with Bobby for year early on when she was a single engine boat.
Originally Posted by legend
(Post 3846977)
Bob T's Golden Eagle out of Eastlake Ohio. True Racer
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Joe Marco's Black Magic was an Excalibur. The later bought and raced a 28' Single Cigarette under the same name and number.
Originally Posted by legend
(Post 3848019)
The #77 boat was named Black Magic from Ohio. It was a popular boat in the Club. Someone will probably chime in before I remember what the make was. P&D, Martini, Excalibur ect. I think a couple of them also made a 26.
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Originally Posted by legend
(Post 3847696)
1979 Lake Erie
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Originally Posted by innerrage
(Post 3847741)
would love also to see it come back and let the little guy in a 21 ft to 23ft run in a limited class.
You can only do that for so long today as there was not any new help coming in & the old crew just burned out. It was a GREAT TIME while it lasted.. |
This was posted in the Velocity Forum.
Awesome old commercial. MOPRA guys will probably remember these guys/gals http://api.viglink.com/api/click?for...13582019286572 |
That's not the half of it. On top of the GLSCS we had GLOPRA to run as well and put on races. The Michigan clubs did the same. I was working regular job, racing, and trustee of GLOPRa along with President of GLSCS. A race weekend cost me close to 3K before it was all said and done. Times 8 to 10 races you can figure out why it all ended. There were people like Bob and Theresa Eubanks who contributed semis and trailers for support vehicles which would have cost another 50k per year. All that and we were lucky to get a thanks at the end of the weekend.
If and when I get back into racing it will be as a racer only. We had a blast all in all. I bet we could sit in room for a week and not tell the same story twice. Some that even shouldn't be retold. Good times.... A.B.
Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 3848420)
Unfortunately Andy [cig3] myself & the rest of the Silver cup team tried to bring back the fun in racing, It lasted for around 6 years. With only the same handful of volunteers & workers it burns you out physically & burns a BIG hole in your wallet as a official.
You can only do that for so long today as there was not any new help coming in & the old crew just burned out. It was a GREAT TIME while it lasted.. |
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So then lets open another B-Wiser and keep looking at pictures. Cheers
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Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 3848094)
Anyone remember this Cig Mistress with the raised rear deck, it was sold and went to Ohio around 1988. Is it still on Lake Erie ?
Mark |
"Piranha #65" is one of the very rare Magnum 29.9 right?
What a great thread this is! Thank you guys!! :) |
Awesome pics!! Cig3?....... Zeiger had the Cobra Mariah. Did he also own the Pantera Mariah? And did he ever race it? I remember the Pantera when it was new in a boathouse in the Clifton Lagoons. I thought the original owner was Howard Ferguson.
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There were 5 29-9's made Leviathan,which became Boar Hog and had 4-150 Mercs. and was driven by Juan Fernandez. My 29-9 was originally owned by Jim Armington 1973-76 from Ohio and was called Thumper Too. Vaughn Szarka also from Ohio owned it till 1980 and was called the Head Hunter and was APBA National Champion Class II . It was sold to Mike Atkins on the West Coast and came out of Marina Del-Ray. I took delivery of it 3/24/08 and we will be done on a total restore this year.
The 482 tall deck (Truck Block) 4-1/4 Bore / 4-1/4 Stroke (stroker without head plates) has been rebuilt by Roger Munn. He possibly ran this boat on Lake X and Bob Oetringer is working on the hull and deck,getting it ready for painting.It will be original from Engine,to instruments and hardware.We even got the original trailer that probably weighs 10,000 lbs. |
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Piranha #65, photo above is one of the 3 remaining...any knowledge on iit is it still around,history????? Bud |
awesome pictures,keep em coming
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Originally Posted by mr vinyl
(Post 3848721)
A few more
Piranha #65, photo above is one of the 3 remaining...any knowledge on iit is it still around,history????? Bud |
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Not from the great lakes but close enough. Some of my never seen on computer pic's. with a couple GLOPRA boats mixed in on the Hutson River.
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What happened to piranha
Originally Posted by mr vinyl
(Post 3848716)
There were 5 29-9's made Leviathan,which became Boar Hog and had 4-150 Mercs. and was driven by Juan Fernandez. My 29-9 was originally owned by Jim Armington 1973-76 from Ohio and was called Thumper Too. Vaughn Szarka also from Ohio owned it till 1980 and was called the Head Hunter and was APBA National Champion Class II . It was sold to Mike Atkins on the West Coast and came out of Marina Del-Ray. I took delivery of it 3/24/08 and we will be done on a total restore this year.
The 482 tall deck (Truck Block) 4-1/4 Bore / 4-1/4 Stroke (stroker without head plates) has been rebuilt by Roger Munn. He possibly ran this boat on Lake X and Bob Oetringer is working on the hull and deck,getting it ready for painting.It will be original from Engine,to instruments and hardware.We even got the original trailer that probably weighs 10,000 lbs. |
Originally Posted by CIG3
(Post 3848606)
That's not the half of it. On top of the GLSCS we had GLOPRA to run as well and put on races. The Michigan clubs did the same. I was working regular job, racing, and trustee of GLOPRa along with President of GLSCS. A race weekend cost me close to 3K before it was all said and done. Times 8 to 10 races you can figure out why it all ended. There were people like Bob and Theresa Eubanks who contributed semis and trailers for support vehicles which would have cost another 50k per year. All that and we were lucky to get a thanks at the end of the weekend.
If and when I get back into racing it will be as a racer only. We had a blast all in all. I bet we could sit in room for a week and not tell the same story twice. Some that even shouldn't be retold. Good times.... A.B. |
Originally Posted by legend
(Post 3848781)
Andy, I hope the greedy race for money days did not wreck your good old race for trophy memories. In all sports prize money changes the competitor. Man, Just like age F's up my spelling!
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Originally Posted by lucky strike
(Post 3847733)
You could race 25 or 30 APBA & club races around the country if you chose to. We ran all the APBA & most of the club races for years.
The fastest boats didn't always win. You had to finish over a hundred miles in the ocean & navigation was key. No such thing as GPS. Those were the fun days of racing, you had to do your home work back then and chart a course out in the ocean Jim |
He never raced the Pantera. I worked for him when I was in high school. He had just sold the Panera and had a 36' Wide Body Cigarette "Heartbeat" that I helped work on. The Pantera is now in Mentor called Black Velvet.
Originally Posted by bobo1
(Post 3848683)
Awesome pics!! Cig3?....... Zeiger had the Cobra Mariah. Did he also own the Pantera Mariah? And did he ever race it? I remember the Pantera when it was new in a boathouse in the Clifton Lagoons. I thought the original owner was Howard Ferguson.
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Here's a few more. Miss Cigarette is Eastlake with Tim and I. 1989 Rascal from Lorain and Trash can from Cleveland. Also an old newpaper clipping from 1980. Rascal, Cleveland Prop, Thunder Buzzard.
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Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 3848925)
It's not just the money that is needed for prize money it's cost of insurance, site fees, & RED TAPE. Back around 2004 I was the Vp of LSCORA a Silver Cup club with GLOPRA. We meet with the local Coast Guard many times to see if we could put on a Detroit Rive race that would run in front of the GM Ren Cen building. After we doted are I's & crossed all our tee's we were given the Green light to meet with our sponsor[General Motors] @ Coast Guard Detroit. We all sat down along with a Detroit rep from the Mayor's office. The Mayor wanted 100k for the police dept overtime & for what else they felt to cover the race. No one left the table yet, but when the Coast Guard guy who wrote the permits [a volunteer] told the GM reps BLOOD WILL BE ON YOU HANDS if you sponsor this race. Why,, I think he was a blow boater? The GM people RAN FOR THE DOOR, I don't think many will forget that day. We put on a few more race's but with out $$$$. In the way back it was fun to race for beer & a trophy sadly you just can't race like that anymore.
Tell us about the "Climax" Magnum. I'd also like to see pics of Prissy Pants Dave from back in the day. Was his hair still perfect even after taking of the helmet? Jeff |
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Originally Posted by dammmagnum
(Post 3848935)
Steve,
Those were the fun days of racing, you had to do your home work back then and chart a course out in the ocean Jim In the Point Pleasant N.J. races in July hitting the BA buoy from the Seaside Pier was a chore in the good weather. One year all but 1 of the open class boats I think wound up in the Hudson River because of their navagator & the weather. |
Originally Posted by lucky strike
(Post 3849429)
When it rained and the fog rolled in you really had to know your Sh.t.
In the Point Pleasant N.J. races in July hitting the BA buoy from the Seaside Pier was a chore in the good weather. One year all but 1 of the open class boats I think wound up in the Hudson River because of their navagator & the weather. |
It is kind of Cool seeing those small outboard boats Racing they look like just average Joe's
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Originally Posted by lucky strike
(Post 3849429)
When it rained and the fog rolled in you really had to know your Sh.t.
In the Point Pleasant N.J. races in July hitting the BA buoy from the Seaside Pier was a chore in the good weather. One year all but 1 of the open class boats I think wound up in the Hudson River because of their navagator & the weather. but that made it fun hitting your marks |
Hawaiian Eye daaaaam.... now thats a blast from the past! Great pics Legend!
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Originally Posted by legend
(Post 3849328)
Couple more.
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Originally Posted by dammmagnum
(Post 3849688)
Or how many reached the south shore of Long Island or Fire Island,, lost
but that made it fun hitting your marks |
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This one of my most favorite pic's, my old Mag when it was Sam's Come Again racing the Mirage La Salle. This is how close they were running after one 30 mile lap in a 90 mile race. :ernaehrung004: I shot this pic around 1977.
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Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 3850762)
This one of my most favorite pic's, my old Mag when it was Sam's Come Again racing the Mirage La Salle. This is how close they were running after one 30 mile lap in a 90 mile race. :ernaehrung004: I shot this pic around 1977.
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I posted this some time ago, from back in the day, GLOPRA glory day's..
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Originally Posted by h2oboater
(Post 3850762)
This one of my most favorite pic's, my old Mag when it was Sam's Come Again racing the Mirage La Salle. This is how close they were running after one 30 mile lap in a 90 mile race. :ernaehrung004: I shot this pic around 1977.
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Originally Posted by AB69Z
(Post 3852170)
Is that in front of Windsor Yacht Club?
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Please keep the pics coming - they are really great.
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