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Old 12-23-2012 | 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
thanks for the kind words joe,and dont worry about anything fleg1 said,he is just a jelous little man,just cant fix stupid.also,il have the first engine ready to dyno by friday,il fill you in on the details.
Mike really!!! What could I possibly be jealous of? My boat and engines run!!!
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:03 PM
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Dude I have friends with 38 cigs, 37 midnights, 36 skaters all with a TRUE 1100hp + and when we go out the driver drives and the rest of us are watching gauges for one reason to prevent the loss of very expensive motors....

If you motor heads take a boat out and beat the piss out of it with fresh power and don't monitor gauges you deserve to have a melt down!!!! Just sayin.. IDK

I thought you said he beat on them all summer? Sounds like he is just now getting them put back together!! Sounds to me that the melt down could have possibly been avoided by simply monitoring some gauges!!!
I know you have some buddies, and some running dean Gellner engines. Dean does build some nice engines, and is a friend of mine. So are a few other guys you probably boat with down there on the river. Chill out man.

Mike isn't talking about his motors going to the dyno btw.
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Bob Madera never did anything with those motors. He was gonna spec new cams for them, but owner went a different route.

I can see you're trying to stir the pot with false information. Before attempting to somehow attack me personally on oso, for something I have nothing to do with, why don't you pony up for a paid membership big guy. Then you can post pictures up of your engines and show us all how its done.
Again I just asked a question to find out who built the engines for the guy's boat that couldn't get on plane??

I'm not attacking you just doing research on who knows engines and who doesn't..

My engines aren't anything special Gm 502 crates with Crane 741 cams roller motors with Stainless Marine Hi Torque manifolds with dry exhaust to the tips equivalent to hp 500's.. The boat has Imco boxes with my drives set at 4" below the boat..Oh and I do have Lathem steering.. Boat runs right at 80.. I'm thinking that the Quick Fuel carb might squeeze some more out of it!!!

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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:05 PM
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Which one of you guys built the motor for your buddy, that ultimately had to be sent to Bob Madera to be done over?
Dude you have the story all screwed up,,no ''ENGINE'' went to bob's and get it straight ''MOTORS'' are electric....The engine getting built as we speak is another friends engine that is another 1200 hp engine that is getting freshined..the engine was being checked out because the procharger exploaded and pieces went through the engine..It was making too much horse power for the ris pins in the engine so those needed to be changed as well..the friend also wanted a more friendly came around the doc's so a new can was chosen and the ''ENGINE'' should be done on friday..
Quit looking for reasons to pick on mike,,he really is a good guy..
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fleg1
Mike really!!! What could I possibly be jealous of? My boat and engines run!!!
your 1987 330 hp motorsi lost a fuel pump,burnt a piston,and had it out and running in 3 weeks,go back to chucks thread,its cheerleading time little man.
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by mike tkach
your 1987 330 hp motorsi lost a fuel pump,burnt a piston,and had it out and running in 3 weeks,go back to chucks thread,its cheerleading time little man.
You guys are killing me here!! Come on boys I know the story behind the guys engines over in Mokena.. Lets just say you can't port heads with a dremel tool and ship them out the door!!! Just Sayin IDK thats my opinion, maybe someone else will chime in and confirm that

and the dude did go to Bob Madera to purchase all new parts for his engines because he couldn't get his boat on plane because of the Shadetree Mechanics that put them together!!!
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by fleg1
You guys are killing me here!! Come on boys I know the story behind the guys engines over in Mokena.. Lets just say you can't port heads with a dremel tool and ship them out the door!!! Just Sayin IDK thats my opinion, maybe someone else will chime in and confirm that

and the dude did go to Bob Madera to purchase all new parts for his engines because he couldn't get his boat on plane because of the Shadetree Mechanics that put them together!!!
Lol, wow. I will call bob and have him post the truth. Bob is a great guy, but did not provide a single item for anything on these engines.
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:36 PM
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[QUOTE=fleg1;3836858]

I'm not attacking you just doing research on who knows engines and who doesn't..

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Obviously not you.

I have 502 crate engines that had oil issues also, to the point that one of them had to be rebuilt because of lack of oil to the mains.. So I decided to remove the center valve and plug the outer one, hoping this would solve my high oil temp issues.. Well with 140 t-stats my water temp ran about 160 and my oil temps climbed well above 250* on the hose...

Is it possible that there isnt enough water going thru the system by being on the hose for the oil temps to be so high?

We did install crane 731 cams in the engines, also installed huge oil coolers and a teague block adapter, I should add that I used the stock remote filter adapter and the stock oil lines from a 454 mag on the 502.. Is it possible that the oil lines are restricting the flow of oil and slowing it down as it travels through the system?

I do have another question! I have dry exhaust if there isnt enough water flow thru the cooling system of the block and oil cooler could that cause the high oil temps? Basically I guess I'm asking if I'm not dumping enough water from the cooling system would it cause the oil temps to be higher than if I was using say stock mercruiser exhaust?
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by MILD THUNDER
Lol, wow. I will call bob and have him post the truth. Bob is a great guy, but did not provide a single item for anything on these engines.
Probably not for the first build!!! But more than likely the second!!

Are there any Dyno sheets available for these 1200hp engines you guys build?
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Old 12-23-2012 | 08:42 PM
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[QUOTE=MILD THUNDER;3836883]
Originally Posted by fleg1

I'm not attacking you just doing research on who knows engines and who doesn't..

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Obviously not you.

I have 502 crate engines that had oil issues also, to the point that one of them had to be rebuilt because of lack of oil to the mains.. So I decided to remove the center valve and plug the outer one, hoping this would solve my high oil temp issues.. Well with 140 t-stats my water temp ran about 160 and my oil temps climbed well above 250* on the hose...

Is it possible that there isnt enough water going thru the system by being on the hose for the oil temps to be so high?

We did install crane 731 cams in the engines, also installed huge oil coolers and a teague block adapter, I should add that I used the stock remote filter adapter and the stock oil lines from a 454 mag on the 502.. Is it possible that the oil lines are restricting the flow of oil and slowing it down as it travels through the system?

I do have another question! I have dry exhaust if there isnt enough water flow thru the cooling system of the block and oil cooler could that cause the high oil temps? Basically I guess I'm asking if I'm not dumping enough water from the cooling system would it cause the oil temps to be higher than if I was using say stock mercruiser exhaust?
LOL ended up the high temps were from ground issues with the wiring behind the dash.. All is good and the boat runs fantastic!!

BTW I'm not claiming to be a Shadetree Mechanic!!!
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