454 with 177 blower build
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Heres the sheet from the build Mike Tkach did. It was 8.5:1, with AFR 305 rectangles. 177 Blower with 1025 BG 4150 carb. only 4.2 PSI of boost at 6000 netted 691HP. That was with a 3.25 Top pulley, would have been cool to try a 3'' top, but thats all he had.
Ealeash's build made some nice power for sure as well. Both nice upgrades from a 525sc setup.
Ealeash's build made some nice power for sure as well. Both nice upgrades from a 525sc setup.
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Heres the sheet from the build Mike Tkach did. It was 8.5:1, with AFR 305 rectangles. 177 Blower with 1025 BG 4150 carb. only 4.2 PSI of boost at 6000 netted 691HP. That was with a 3.25 Top pulley, would have been cool to try a 3'' top, but thats all he had.
Ealeash's build made some nice power for sure as well. Both nice upgrades from a 525sc setup.
Ealeash's build made some nice power for sure as well. Both nice upgrades from a 525sc setup.
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I was thinking about starting an "official 454 Supercharged thread".
A thread with nothing but supercharged 454-468 engines, with specific build details and results. I think there are many guys who toss their 454's aside, because they feel they cant make more than 550HP with them. I know we have at least 1/2 dozen custom supercharged 454 based builds around here.
You dyno'ing yours Rookie?
A thread with nothing but supercharged 454-468 engines, with specific build details and results. I think there are many guys who toss their 454's aside, because they feel they cant make more than 550HP with them. I know we have at least 1/2 dozen custom supercharged 454 based builds around here.
You dyno'ing yours Rookie?
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We ran 2 other combinations on the dyno as well (I'll just list all 3), here is what we did and the results:
With the stock 3.25" blower pulley
649.6hp@6200 and 625.9ft lbs tq@4200. Made 3.4psi of boost at peak power
With 3" blower pulley
689.4hp@6300 and 675ft lbs tq@4200. Made 5.6psi of boost at peak power. This is the set up that will go in the boat!
My builder had a HVH 2" carb spacer and hasn't tried a spacer on a roots blower, so we gave it a whirl out of curiosity, here are the results:
3" blower pulley and 2" HVH spacer
697.2hp@6400 and 671.3ft lbs tq@4300. Made 5.75psi of boost at peak power.
All of these results were with a Holley 1050 dominator boost referenced, jets 89/97 and 34 degrees of timing. 265 AFR's with a 106cc chamber to bump compression to 8.6-8.7:1, Bob Madara cam, morel lifters, Manton .120 wall pushrods, scorpion marine endurance rockers, and stud girdle from Bob. Changed the rectangle port intake to weiand/holleys oval port intake to match heads. It was a stock 525sc base, no changes were made to the bottom end, it was rebuilt pretty recently and is a 4.280 bore so 461.
With the stock 3.25" blower pulley
649.6hp@6200 and 625.9ft lbs tq@4200. Made 3.4psi of boost at peak power
With 3" blower pulley
689.4hp@6300 and 675ft lbs tq@4200. Made 5.6psi of boost at peak power. This is the set up that will go in the boat!
My builder had a HVH 2" carb spacer and hasn't tried a spacer on a roots blower, so we gave it a whirl out of curiosity, here are the results:
3" blower pulley and 2" HVH spacer
697.2hp@6400 and 671.3ft lbs tq@4300. Made 5.75psi of boost at peak power.
All of these results were with a Holley 1050 dominator boost referenced, jets 89/97 and 34 degrees of timing. 265 AFR's with a 106cc chamber to bump compression to 8.6-8.7:1, Bob Madara cam, morel lifters, Manton .120 wall pushrods, scorpion marine endurance rockers, and stud girdle from Bob. Changed the rectangle port intake to weiand/holleys oval port intake to match heads. It was a stock 525sc base, no changes were made to the bottom end, it was rebuilt pretty recently and is a 4.280 bore so 461.
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I don`t wanna start a $hitstorm again but at the end of the day you told us all how the 305head is way too big, Joe and Mike are dummies for suggesting it but at the end of the day all things being equal your 265 head ended up making 40hp less and the same TQ .
Would seem to me that 305head isn`t "too big" after all.
I was a retard for suggesting that the port mismatch was incorrect and I`m glad to see that was remedied.
I would also hope you remedy the 13.5 AFR at 6300 with a 177 blower to a much richer mixture otherwise it`s going to last about 4 minutes.
Would seem to me that 305head isn`t "too big" after all.
I was a retard for suggesting that the port mismatch was incorrect and I`m glad to see that was remedied.
I would also hope you remedy the 13.5 AFR at 6300 with a 177 blower to a much richer mixture otherwise it`s going to last about 4 minutes.



