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F-2 Speedy 08-21-2018 09:18 AM

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.off...114999615e.jpg
if you go Vic Jr it will need some work, this one was matched to a 525 head

Baja Rooster 08-21-2018 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Bajaorlando (Post 4644929)
What is so confusing to me is all the high horse power Merc engines use Vic jr style or open plenum tunnel ram style intakes
but when you look at the operating ranges on paper they would not work

I *think* had the airgap been around when Merc was doing all of their development it may have been a strong consideration for the 600hp and lower models, but at the time the options were a truck manifold or single plane.

F-2 Speedy is right. I was shocked at how small the Victor Jr ports are when I laid a gasket over them. They leave a lot of material in there so you can match whatever heads you have. The airgap isn’t as bad but I still took some time to hog it out.

Bajaorlando 08-21-2018 06:42 PM

F2
did removing all the meat help?

F-2 Speedy 08-21-2018 06:51 PM

The engine wasn't dyno'd before and after, it just makes sense to port match for flow

Baja Rooster 08-23-2018 10:21 AM

Smitty has done some dyno time with the Victor Jr. You can see his input on the last couple pages of my build thread if your interested.

https://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/...ml#post4645354

getrdunn 08-29-2018 05:09 PM

At the power your aiming for and your CI I'd tend to go single plane and port match. Dual plane do have awesome torque but think you'll sacrifice at top end. I only mention port matching because of your build. Honestly seen up to 50 hp gains on dyno back to back. Valako will verify. Some builds makes no difference or very minimal. Heck I've even ran Valako raised floor heads with a stock rec port intake and had no power loss. It was a weekend deal to get on the water but interesting. That was with a 454 build though with much less power. Look into the Merlin X intake. I'm not a big fan of them however seems like a lot of guys like them. NA 565 builds I'm using the brodix hv2001 unless I go back to sc. cross section and runner length is something to be considered also. Just my opinion..

Baja Rooster 08-30-2018 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by getrdunn (Post 4646391)
At the power your aiming for and your CI I'd tend to go single plane and port match. Dual plane do have awesome torque but think you'll sacrifice at top end. I only mention port matching because of your build. Honestly seen up to 50 hp gains on dyno back to back. Valako will verify. Some builds makes no difference or very minimal. Heck I've even ran Valako raised floor heads with a stock rec port intake and had no power loss. It was a weekend deal to get on the water but interesting. That was with a 454 build though with much less power. Look into the Merlin X intake. I'm not a big fan of them however seems like a lot of guys like them. NA 565 builds I'm using the brodix hv2001 unless I go back to sc. cross section and runner length is something to be considered also. Just my opinion..

Excellent points. I should also note that I do 90% of my boating under the 4K rpms and pull a lot of tubers and wakeboards. If I was going for the last few mph I’d do just as John said. I have an open bow so anything over 60 and I start losing towels, coolers, dogs, etc.

Bajaorlando 08-30-2018 12:38 PM

I really appreciate everyone's thoughts and input, baja and getr have really good points. This is allot of money for me ( doing this twice) so i just want to maximize what i get and learn from other peoples mistakes. i was worried about port matching for some reason i thought that would change the port velocity. Baja I have a extra power steering pump, but it is for a serpentine system

Wobble 08-31-2018 09:51 AM

The brass lined Merlin single plane intake is a solid choice.

Bajaorlando 08-31-2018 09:56 AM

https://www.billmitchellproducts.com...00-marine.html


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Was strongly considering this one, anyone use his stuff


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