fastoys

Anybody have any experience with these drives? Are they much better than the XR? How much horsepower can they hold? I am getting tired of rebuilding Bravos every 75 to 100 hours. How long before a rebuild on these drives? Will they bolt up to xr helmet?

offshorexcursion

iTrader: (5)

Sorry to hear your having the bravo blues. There are A LOT of us in the same "boat".

SCX-4 might be a good option to increase strength and reliability. They have NOT been proven to increase speed on a V bottom. They have done a little better on cats but again not much solid data.

SCX-4 is NOT a turn key drive.

You will eventually need/and or want

SCX-4 drives
Helmets (required)
Stainless Steel HD Gimbal Rings
Reservoir
Extension boxes (neutral or -3 depending)
WCM blueprinted lowers
$5500 props (each)
Spacers to space down if needed
Water pickups might change
Tie Bar
Prop testing
Dial in time
It adds up FAST

Your boat will still be rigged with old worn out Transom assembly's, hydraulic steering, and trim rams

Arneson ASD7M Bravo Conversions are a better bang for the buck, stronger drive, that's actually proven to increase speed

Yes the kit cost more up front but you GET More, Plus you can sell your old parts

Arneson's

Included
Drives
Transmissions
Extension Boxes
Drop Boxes
Bellhousings
New Trim Rams
New Hydraulic Steering
Helm Unit
Etc.
Pretty much everything you need to install
Everything from the engines back is NEW, tight and safe!

Multiple NEW Skaters, Hustlers, and others are being rigged with Arneson's new as we speak. Can't argue with Skater on speed and handling

Good luck on your search

1 MAIDEN AMERICA

Bang for buck is acceptable if the drive holds up which I think it will


Don't get me wrong, Arneson's are awesome. Find someone with your boat and Arnesons to see what they think and how to set it up, keeping in mind that a Bravo conversion is different than a "from scratch" set up.

Rik

No it's not. The exact same kit from Arneson is supplied for a Conversion or a new boat setup. Not one bit of difference in items supplied nor pricing. We have quite a few 38' Cigarette's with the Arnesons and have a customer converting on a newer TS model at the moment.

1 MAIDEN AMERICA

My bad! Sorry about that. Correct words should have been "may be" not "is".
I thought OEM Arnesons have the tranny's in the boat and the conversions in the extention box. May be an old school set up? And plenty of Cigs have Arneson's to get info on compared to SCX-4's

1 MAIDEN AMERICA

Sidetracking. Any 2002 semi-staggered 38' Lightnings with the Arneson conversions?

Rik

I had a customer with a side by side on a Fountain 38' no staggers. Come to think about it, how did you stagger a Fountain 38' pleasure boat? Does it have a different cockpit?

The Bravo Conversion Kit and the #7M Kit are the 100% exact same thing and the customer, due to different configurations, has the option of close coupled which puts the transmission extending into the standoff box or a drive line (for stagger or catamaran applications) that has the transmission forward. In either case, the transmission is mounted to the engine and follows the engine's location. Meaning it's not mounted into the standoff box itself.

Wildman_grafix

RIK, 38 fountains did a semi staggard around 2002 then went full in 07?

Heck 07 and up 35's were full but came in at 9800lbs and they had a Small cockpit.

Either way, why are the props so expensive on both? I thought with the Arneson conversion you could run bravo style props?

Rik

The propellers are made by Mercury or Hering and we use the Speedmaster style as the Bravo's are not the best for the application. On the smaller boats the Bravo style propeller works fine but not for a 700+ hp 9-10K lb boat.

1 MAIDEN AMERICA

Another cool factor for Arneson is that he hangs out here