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Originally Posted by phughes69
(Post 4244736)
Mild, What is the difference between a SSM 3 and 3A. I know the propshaft diameter is bigger on the 3a. I think the prop shaft on the 3 is 1 1/4.
Also from what I know the Kamma is rated for 600 HP and doesnt have the problems of a typical outdrive with gears so wouldnt that still put it above a SSM 3 #1 Arneson #2 M8 #3 SSM 6 dry sump #4 SSM 6 wet sump #5 SSM 3A/5 #6 SSM 4 #7 Konrad #8 Kaama #9 SSM 3 #10 Bravo XR Sportmaster #11 TRS/SSM II #12 Standard Bravo #13 Alpha Problem with the kaama drive, is the twin disc trans can't handle much . not sure if anyone can build one for 1000+ ft lbs of torque. The kaama drive will take the same 19 spline props as a #3. The #3, also has twin vertical shaft design with each shaft and gear splitting the load to the propshaft, like a #6 does. Konrad does not have that option, and has a smaller propshaft than a #3. |
If I remember correctly(been a long time for one) kaama had a bearing or 2 that needs to be upgraded to take alot of hp/tq.have the notes at the shop.
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Sutphen Man
Originally Posted by sutphen 30
(Post 4244832)
If I remember correctly(been a long time for one) kaama had a bearing or 2 that needs to be upgraded to take alot of hp/tq.have the notes at the shop.
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Konrads are just a newer and sightly better alternative to a TRS... not in any way to be mistaken for a suitable replacement for a Speedy... I've put 850's in front of #3s on a 38 Fountain Lightening and the customer ran for many years with them... just saying
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#4s and #5s are both surfacing drives... either one is great and depending on HP levels, will deliver same results
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The only downfall ...if you want to call it that is the learning curve to speedys if your used to a bravo or trs boat the speedys won't win any hole shot races. They take lots of RPM like any surface driven prop to get on plane. Cleaver style props destroy the water because tip speed is literally boiling the water your trying to push . It feels like they are blowing out but once you get on the top its like you hit the NOS button. Most pleasure boaters don't like it and it can be a little tricky to manage very ruff water since the speedys can only keep the boat planed at higher speed. My boat wouldn't stay up under 28 mph ....granted dead rise and other things play a factor. I had to learn a few times in very ruff conditions 8 to 9 footers on Lake erie is a bit ruff even in a 38 you stick the next swell since they are 45 feet apart. Just my experience with the 5s on my boat.
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Originally Posted by lil red
(Post 4244319)
I have yet to see a manufacturer extend the cockpit of a model because it's a bravo boat. I must not understand what you're saying,
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depends on the setup, and props. My current 17x28 props, slip coming on plane. Takes a little while and about 4000RPM to lay over. I had a different set of 17x27 props a few years back. Props didnt slip a bit, and I could accelerate from idle to on plane like a ski boat. Some buddy's boats with 3's, plane off like a trs/bravo boat, even with 3 blade cleavers.
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4245487)
i have never seen a bravo boat with 14 inches of empty space in front of the crank pulley before you get to the rear cockpit bulkhead. no trans makes for more space in the boat for bikinis. and cheaper to build...
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Originally Posted by dereknkathy
(Post 4245487)
i have never seen a bravo boat with 14 inches of empty space in front of the crank pulley before you get to the rear cockpit bulkhead. no trans makes for more space in the boat for bikinis. and cheaper to build...
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