The sad thing is these same azzholes who have no respect for others personal property will be working right next to you once this is over.

Don't you worry about me and your three rules .... you should more concerned with your cross dressing skills when you drink bourbon.

I am pretty sure the farmer doesn't wear high heels. This is becoming a regular occurance for you.

Must be a Fountain thing .....

The worst part is you still can't look at any of the Formula Nation eye to eye yet ..... even with the 6" risers you were wearing .....

As far as the mute button ..... did you install another idiot button beside yours keys on your boat to prevent you from firing your motors up "afterhours" ........

Really!!!





Jeff

dont sound so wierd to me .....

do it all the time .....Hurricane's .....ect .....

well .......sorta ..... coal and CFB's ........

Not my three rules, had nothing to do with their origins. Could be new Nation rules far as I know.

I'll admit I could never approximate water depth past 5 feet, but why would I want to do that?
And why in the middle of the night???

As a Formula Nation guy you do stand tall on the dock, and on the river bottom, so I hear.

You're right Mike, the way these guys are acting, it will never be the same when they come back - if they come back.

We hear the Union leadership, who by the way do not work there and are still getting paid by the Union, are telling these guys how to behave and what to do. These guys are picketing the wrong audience. We don't have any sway or power what happens whatsoever. And, there is not one single temporary worker over there performing a union job. We're all management filling in. There are contractors working on engineering projects but they were there before the strike and they are not performing union labor jobs. They call us scabs and they don't even know what the definition of a scab is. It's actually kind of embarassing to watch them. There is no public traffic to speak of at the entrance to the plant where they're picketing so they're getting zero public exposure. They should be hopping busses and picketing in Baltimore in front of the corporate office.

This whole protest is totally misguided and misdirected. It's a wonder some of those guys don't see this and confront their leadership and say WTF!!! They're not going to win any concessions the way they are going about it. And, there are several that won't be treated well if they return. I know who they are and so do many others. Several of them are being total a-holes and that's how we'll treat them if they return.

I had sympathy for them at the beginning, that is fast turning to disgust. Phukin jerks!!!!!!!

What you're describing here seems to be becoming more the norm. Personally I think the days of the union need to be gone. Way too many leaders living large on the backs of the members. I just can't understand why they fail to see that these leaders of theirs cost them more than the benefit they gain.

I believe this country has moved past the point where workers are abused, and past the point where unions are of any real value. It's sad to see that these members apparently can not think for themselves. Recieving a raise, a benefit, etc was once the result of one's effort to do a good job, to be of value to one's employer. Not some presumed God given right based on a union card. People wonder why jobs are going overseas. I know the first respone is always because it's cheaper, ever think that companies might just be fed up with the constant union demands and drama?

I assume the plant is still operating?
If so, where is the value of those at the gate?
Makes one wonder!

I agree Pete. I've made it through my 30 year nuclear career by my own abilities, initiative, and choices. I've never been a union member and don't need some else sticking up for me. Until now, my union friends have been just that, friends that chose (or more commonly fell into) union positions. No big deal, they're union, I'm not. It was never an issue even when I was supervising my union friends. We all had a job to do and we did it.

It's differnent now, these guys are turing this into a fight. Well, bring it on. I'll still be there making money while they are not.

You're right that unions have outlived their need to exist. We all understand that there was a time when unions were necessary. Now, they just breed and support slugs. Now, before all of you represented workers out there jump all over me, I have many union friends over there that are highly qualified and professional. But, those guys carry the slugs. If I were a slug, I'd have been gone long ago. And, it's the slugs that are acting the worst out there on the picket line. Why? Because without this union-backed job, they couldn't keep a street sweeping job without getting fired.

I personally think the smart, qualified, and self-respecting union guys out on the line should break with the union and come back to work as management mechanics, I/C techs, and electricians, etc. They will be paid just as well as they are now because they possess the unique qualifications nuclear work requires. I believe it is the company's goal to break this union and the company would certainly hire back those that want to come back non-union. Then, they can make their own way and be rewarded for what they do individually. That would be a huge cultural shift for these guys but hey, that's just the way it is. Adapt or become obsolete.

Bird I feel for you and have to agree on the union nonunion issues. Maybe you guys should drag in some of those X new process guys and introduce them to your union guys. Other news on the union front they just anounced that they closed American Axle (Detroit) and it's being moved to Mexico. So I guess the big question is are the unions trying to expidie outsourcing? Cause they are doing a great job of it. Hang in there, it'll all be worked out before you know it. Just to be safe you may want to take up a spanish for dummies course :-)

Thanks for the thoughts Stepper. Spanish lessons, you might be right!!!

One good thing though, I work 4 -24's then I have 4-24's off. It's really not such a bad deal!!! Gonna do some domestic chores today then spend the next three on the boat. And, the company is paying us for all hours, not just the working hours, plus time and a half over forty. That's a lot of paid hours per week. Maybe I can fill the boat up.

Bird hang in there. Growing up there and watching my dad work as non-union mgt out at the plants, he was miserable. As soon as he hopped in the car and started driving to work every day to Syracuse 50+ miles one way he never looked back. We just went through massive State layoffs here in CT because the Unions wouldn't concede. Union leadership need to start wising up and looking at the lay of the land in this country on how businesses run now not 100 years ago.