TIBBC "The Thread" again...
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I never said anything like "management scumbag"
actually my two bosses are good guys, think the world of me, treat me very well on every level available without boiling themselves.
My immediate supervisor called me yesterday in fact to schedule taking me out to lunch off campus. Just for 5inch I'll say my response was to laughing tell him to wear something nice, he said he'd wear the little green dress I'm so fond of...
but a very, very broken system for sure.
point is about the $ is that they pass along a greater portion of increased net allocated to payroll to those who aren't (in my business) actually doing the job that gets charged for! In the form of larger raises, larger bonuses and higher % of insurance paid for including increases.
Let me ask- why do they deserve or expect that when I don't, or shouldn't?
(no knock on you 'Bird, and thnx for the kind words)
Any management types care to answer?
I have been offered to run an affiliated off campus clinic, move up and out of the union at the hospital...
my reason for staying in the rank and file is the schedule period.
OK and somewhat the adrenaline factor!
and mr B. I never said that every personal financial responsibility was my employers responsibility
little embellishment there?
wonder if 5inch and 'Bird have any company contributions/funded retirement?
If so, include them in your generalization reference to "entitlement" thinking.
I also support my own "financial responsibilities" in terms of retirement, have done very well regardless of the economy in just ten years. Started late, have had to be aggressive.
One of those 6 figure or larger CEO bonuses would go along way toward paying those happy, productive, hard-workers you speak of...and allowing the American dream to continue en mass in the suburbs as opposed to in just those few houses on the hill!
yea,
labor costs are breaking America's back
and third-world thinking like yours that you should be happy to have a job and forget the American dream of a "comfortable" life that can be maintained
I'm sure all the child laborors, adults working a hundred hours a week for a pittance living in shacks and one room apartments are quite "comfortable" while your margin on their backs gets larger...
this is apparently what you want for us as well.
corporate/management thinking in a nutshell.
actually my two bosses are good guys, think the world of me, treat me very well on every level available without boiling themselves.
My immediate supervisor called me yesterday in fact to schedule taking me out to lunch off campus. Just for 5inch I'll say my response was to laughing tell him to wear something nice, he said he'd wear the little green dress I'm so fond of...
but a very, very broken system for sure.
point is about the $ is that they pass along a greater portion of increased net allocated to payroll to those who aren't (in my business) actually doing the job that gets charged for! In the form of larger raises, larger bonuses and higher % of insurance paid for including increases.
Let me ask- why do they deserve or expect that when I don't, or shouldn't?
(no knock on you 'Bird, and thnx for the kind words)
Any management types care to answer?
I have been offered to run an affiliated off campus clinic, move up and out of the union at the hospital...
my reason for staying in the rank and file is the schedule period.
OK and somewhat the adrenaline factor!
and mr B. I never said that every personal financial responsibility was my employers responsibility
little embellishment there?
wonder if 5inch and 'Bird have any company contributions/funded retirement?
If so, include them in your generalization reference to "entitlement" thinking.
I also support my own "financial responsibilities" in terms of retirement, have done very well regardless of the economy in just ten years. Started late, have had to be aggressive.
One of those 6 figure or larger CEO bonuses would go along way toward paying those happy, productive, hard-workers you speak of...and allowing the American dream to continue en mass in the suburbs as opposed to in just those few houses on the hill!
yea,
labor costs are breaking America's back
and third-world thinking like yours that you should be happy to have a job and forget the American dream of a "comfortable" life that can be maintained
I'm sure all the child laborors, adults working a hundred hours a week for a pittance living in shacks and one room apartments are quite "comfortable" while your margin on their backs gets larger...
this is apparently what you want for us as well.
corporate/management thinking in a nutshell.
Last edited by Rippem; 07-14-2011 at 11:48 AM.
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Wel I do agree with Birds last post. He's hit it on the head!
I'm not tossing a stone in your yard Randy. I'm far from a mega corp monger making my livelyhood off the backs of the poor down troden of the planet. I'm just saying that here in this country I do believe the day of the union's worth have come to an end. The sweat shops of days past are gone, many laws now govern the relationship between employer and employee. The entire union deal is just a huge cash grab for union leaders. Talk about a dog CEO living on the back of the masses. Union big chit retirements funded close to 100% while the rank and file are sub 20%. How's that working for you?
There are a lot of segments of our society that get my dander up. Unions just happen to be one of them. Government is another, wonder why that is going to hell in a handcart on every level these days. Welfare? Now there is a great social blunder, help out the unfortunate in their time of need, works for me! Third generation making it their career! Not real good in my book. I could go on, but won't.
The years of stupidity in this country are over in my opinion. I believe that we are in a period where people will come back to some real values. It will be a major culture shock for some that have been living large for quite a while. The well taned man in DC may be doing his best to convince us all is well, truth is things are not. The work / jobs are just not out there. If you have one, it pays a fair wage, I believe you are amoungst the lucky ones. So why would you let some chit head, making 3 times as much as you, convince you to leave your job and sit on a picket line in defense of your rights. What rights? Your right to be stupid? To forego you paycheck? To cause hardship for your family? Ah! The right to a bigger paycheck, a bigger union due, and more money in the pocket of the Union.
If you are good at what you do people will see that. People will place value in you and your ability and likely will reward you for that. It is not something you need fight for. It is a very simple base principal of human nature. I am a firm believer that if one feels they are underapperciated or undrepayed one can make the choice to strike out and better their lot in life. Far as I know there is no law that prohibits one in saying "I am moving on", "My future lies elsewhere". For me there is a real rub when it comes to the "You owe me" mentality. Sorry, just the way I view things.
For what it's worth I do consider myself to be very lucky in these times. I work my azz off every day to keep myself there, to make happen what people trust me to make happen, just the way it is! Even if I don't get a cost of living increase in the process.
Say what you can do! Do what you say! Be happy when they belive in you and give you the opportunity! Be happier when they ask you to do it again because you did as you said you would do!!!
I'm not tossing a stone in your yard Randy. I'm far from a mega corp monger making my livelyhood off the backs of the poor down troden of the planet. I'm just saying that here in this country I do believe the day of the union's worth have come to an end. The sweat shops of days past are gone, many laws now govern the relationship between employer and employee. The entire union deal is just a huge cash grab for union leaders. Talk about a dog CEO living on the back of the masses. Union big chit retirements funded close to 100% while the rank and file are sub 20%. How's that working for you?
There are a lot of segments of our society that get my dander up. Unions just happen to be one of them. Government is another, wonder why that is going to hell in a handcart on every level these days. Welfare? Now there is a great social blunder, help out the unfortunate in their time of need, works for me! Third generation making it their career! Not real good in my book. I could go on, but won't.
The years of stupidity in this country are over in my opinion. I believe that we are in a period where people will come back to some real values. It will be a major culture shock for some that have been living large for quite a while. The well taned man in DC may be doing his best to convince us all is well, truth is things are not. The work / jobs are just not out there. If you have one, it pays a fair wage, I believe you are amoungst the lucky ones. So why would you let some chit head, making 3 times as much as you, convince you to leave your job and sit on a picket line in defense of your rights. What rights? Your right to be stupid? To forego you paycheck? To cause hardship for your family? Ah! The right to a bigger paycheck, a bigger union due, and more money in the pocket of the Union.
If you are good at what you do people will see that. People will place value in you and your ability and likely will reward you for that. It is not something you need fight for. It is a very simple base principal of human nature. I am a firm believer that if one feels they are underapperciated or undrepayed one can make the choice to strike out and better their lot in life. Far as I know there is no law that prohibits one in saying "I am moving on", "My future lies elsewhere". For me there is a real rub when it comes to the "You owe me" mentality. Sorry, just the way I view things.
For what it's worth I do consider myself to be very lucky in these times. I work my azz off every day to keep myself there, to make happen what people trust me to make happen, just the way it is! Even if I don't get a cost of living increase in the process.
Say what you can do! Do what you say! Be happy when they belive in you and give you the opportunity! Be happier when they ask you to do it again because you did as you said you would do!!!
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fair enough.
on another note check this out!
It appears Axa has an older cousin in Mo.
http://www.recycledpowersports.com/A...s#818be0765ca0
look at the pics closely. This really does appear to be fairly well-done and in nice condition.
on another note check this out!
It appears Axa has an older cousin in Mo.

http://www.recycledpowersports.com/A...s#818be0765ca0
look at the pics closely. This really does appear to be fairly well-done and in nice condition.
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Yep, good debate and good points by all. Lets drop it.
As for that 357 Rip, that truly does look like a nice rig. 35k didn't meet reserve, wonder what the reserve is. If it's as nice as it looks, it's worth 50 easily. However, I don't think the claimed 90 plus mph is realistic. I'd give it low 80's at best. But, that would be pretty nice in 13,000 pound wave crusher!!!!
I guess you're referring to Axa's cousin due to the bling factor, right?
As for that 357 Rip, that truly does look like a nice rig. 35k didn't meet reserve, wonder what the reserve is. If it's as nice as it looks, it's worth 50 easily. However, I don't think the claimed 90 plus mph is realistic. I'd give it low 80's at best. But, that would be pretty nice in 13,000 pound wave crusher!!!!
I guess you're referring to Axa's cousin due to the bling factor, right?
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It appears Axa has an older cousin in Mo. 
http://www.recycledpowersports.com/A...s#818be0765ca0
look at the pics closely. This really does appear to be fairly well-done and in nice condition.

http://www.recycledpowersports.com/A...s#818be0765ca0
look at the pics closely. This really does appear to be fairly well-done and in nice condition.
Does look pretty nice, pipes are something. CMI Big Tubes?
Love the Zoom, Zoom, Zoom deal.
Three blade props are cool. Axa is working his way down to threes one blade at a time.
P.S. Forgot. Fair enough back at you Rip!
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Glad that's done. Bird, keep up the good work, and gas funding overtime. Get you azz up to the Bay!
Talked to Brett at BBlades today and they can repair the cracked blade! Good news, in the meantime, got the fassst 4 blades on.
Dave
Talked to Brett at BBlades today and they can repair the cracked blade! Good news, in the meantime, got the fassst 4 blades on.
Dave
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He most likely wont give you a guarantee, But just a little reassurance, I had him weld mine about 3 years ago and it's still holding up fine. Had a 1 inch crack on the trailing edge.


