Per OSS the last place boat, which I believe broke, ran an average speed of 81.25, for the 3 laps that they finished, what did they do, break right at the finish line? So you saying if you were not trying to collect free beeeeers from JT as he blew by your lap speed would higher?

I was thinking he would pay me out of the big cash purse money we could win. And why would I need to see where I was going? Throttling is a seat of your pants "feel it" thing, sure don't need to see over the dash for that.

not since the days of the wild west 1000 Island pokerruns. and that was usually between or around steel markers, shoals or sheer rock faces. Nowhere to go but hold your line!
It was flat out f'kin dangerous.
They've corrected and policed all that out now. but it was hair-raising in it's day, to say the least.

There wasn't a speed zone on the day going to Gan past the light house! It was an accelerating and attempting passing zone once you tucked it in a little to bear to starboard out of the middle channel to pass the lighthouse on the straight line to Gan!
Damm narrow right there by/just past the lighthouse for a dozen very immediate boats with the sticks down and the trim running back up!
Nor was there going around (what is now the middle channel speed zone) via Ivy Lea!
Those marker pipes are damm close together (there only 70-100 ft apart on a recreational day) when everybody's going as fast as they can and still make that short 200* roudabout through there! Whoever gets out early headed straight for the middle channel again has a big advantage! Pushing for position amongst/ between those rocks and marker pipes is pretty special! Eat alot of exhaust water...remember no canopies!
Prior to that...Fiddler's (narrows) area was no respected speed zone and would go in around that rock cliff into the narrow (where all the houses are now) heading back down river
3-4 abreast carrying some good speed before HAVING to slow down. All about position coming around or out of tight areas!
Or the 90*to port at high speed around the end of Grindstone to head for the middle channel after coming straight NE out from Clayton.
Slid and hopped transom first over wakes making that there happen a number of times. You'de be carrying so much speed...then that course change is right there, oops...
Don't make the mistake of thinking anyone hasn't seen absolutely wild seat and wheeltime!
Especially with most of in in the V-kites of varying sizes! Fast, loose and light!
and all this not on a closed racecourse with safety boats!

many of us have smelled seriously fun fear long before you came to the river, got into boat speed, or "racing".

no offense to you, just setting the record straight.

not to mention all the times where you're running competitively hard/loose with boats of similar speed and capability...
and if there was 40' between you undoubetly somebody running 20-40 mph faster would split you...
you'd never hear them coming...
it would just startle the piss out of you when you already had your hands full to say the least.
There were no rules of conduct or speed to speak of.
You just hoped everyone was as good or better a driver than you were, and knew enough to make NO sudden moves regardless of water conditions!

or have a glass windshield...

she's not the raceboat you...

or that Reggie told you...

oh, nevermind.

First of all let's not start a debate over what was and what is now...

OSS is NOT bracket racing. OPA is. We are part of the OSS and plan to run some OPA events.

OSS Vee Lite are sealed, from Merc, 525efis in a 26'-32' boat with NO speed restrictions. So, most boats run between 88-93 mph depending on conditions and the hull design. It's about the corners and acceleration. Sound familiar? Not much different than NASCAR, but a little further apart in speed. Makes more exciting racing and alot more side by side. I wasn't aware that either of you have been in a Full Canopy boat before and ran a race. You really need to get in a canopy boat to understand the difference. Limited visibility adds to the Rush as well. The side mirrors help, but not too much.

You would have to get in one of these boats and run a race to understand, that's about all I can really say. In no way, shape or form does it compare.

Dave

to what?
anything you've done in a boat?

never claimed to have been in a canopied boat. We don't have to be Einstiens or "boat racers" to understand it limits visability.
Don't go getting your panties in a bunch and putting words in our/my mouth 'cause we're not bowing down and blowing the "boat racer" in you.
I've seen plenty of that crafty tactic before. I can see it coming a mile away...

no "debate" at all. Unless... you want to debate the experiences I've described that you missed out on here all those years.
I was simply saying as I already pointed out you are doing in circles what many of us have done recreationally, at times many more miles in a day, with more potential to die, than in one of your races.
That sir, qualifies those experiences as thrilling and hairy.

I closed with "no offense" and yet you seem to by your choice of words/context to feel that I'm challenging you. I'm not at all, I was just likening your thrills on the racecourse to thrills in real world boating

I guess you would have to have been running poker runs before all the rules and fine print to know, "that's about all I can really say".

Overall your post sounds like a canned PR release.

I am appropriately impressed with your latest undertaking.
Simply responding to the implication that you are somehow experiencing something so far and away, over and above, worlds apart from anything we've experienced. Jeesuz, it's a boat and a motor running near the edge, it really is that simple.

boats running all out competitively with turns (well lefts anyway, maybe rights next month) and changes in course even! (well...not really).

and blowing cash...

The gap isn't that big.

but you are free to feel that it is.

gotta pick this ball-busting tempo up a little- I am getting pm to the effect that the masses of viewers are getting bored.

plus I'm post-whoring to 4000.

answer Guido's call.


Everybody knows that big-time "offshore" (beachfront?) racers do thier recreational boating in luxury.