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Audiofn 03-23-2005 05:26 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Also you leaving room for bezels in there?

Jon

dukenrock 03-23-2005 05:30 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Check out the dual tachs. Floscan had one that I almost bought. Pretty neat because its easy to see both at the same time.

RedDog382 03-23-2005 06:20 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by Audiofn
A is the best IMO however I am trying to figure out what all those guages could possibly be!!!

2 tachs
1 speedo
2 oil temps
2 oil preasures
2 water temps
2 water preasures
1 fuel guage
1 volt meter
2 engine hour meters

That got me to 12 and you still have a extra hole there.

I would get the tachs with the hour meter in them and then you can take out some more guages.
Jon

These are already standard issue in the newer Formulas!

PhantomChaos 03-23-2005 10:28 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by Audiofn
A is the best IMO however I am trying to figure out what all those guages could possibly be!!!

2 tachs
1 speedo
2 oil temps
2 oil pressure
2 water temps
2 water pressure
1 fuel guage
1 volt meter
2 engine hour meters

That got me to 12 and you still have a extra hole there.

I would get the tachs with the hour meter in them and then you can take out some more guages. OR hide the engine hour guages and the volt and fuel guage and make it easier to read. I would also suggest that you put your guages together. IE. port and starboard oil preasure together. That way you can just scan the dash and look at them to see if they are pointing in the same direction, not actually have to read them. That is how all the race boats are set up.

Jon


I'm leaning toward B or D personally. You need to learn how to count Jon!!! I added your list and got 15. Here's teh deal.....

2 tachs/hr meters (BIG)
1 speedo (BIG)
2 oil temp
2 water temp
2 oil pressure
2 water pressure
1 fuel guage
2 volt meter
1 GPS


something else too.....can't remember what at the moment. :evilb: :evilb: :evilb: :evilb:

CAFormula1 03-23-2005 10:36 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Better leave room for those Boost gauges... You never know!!

KL

Poorsche 03-23-2005 10:51 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Several manufacturers have dual tachs--I put a Gaffrig/Livorsi sync guage between tachs.

As my son says--"at my age"--- I can't hear if engines are synched or not--so it has some value in that it make him think I really pay attention to what he complains about on MY boat.

PhantomChaos 03-23-2005 11:57 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by Audiofn
Also you leaving room for bezels in there?

Jon


Yes Jon! Momma didn't raise no dumby!!! :D :D

Kev......Boost? What is that? :D :D :D :D

Audiofn 03-23-2005 11:59 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
I am fairly sure you only need the one volt guage as the Formula can look at both batteries independently or together. If you run the battery switch in the both mode you will be looking at both batteries anyhow. On B were is the GPS?

Jon

Audiofn 03-24-2005 12:00 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
Yes Jon! Momma didn't raise no dumby!!! :D :D

Kev......Boost? What is that? :D :D :D :D

I know mine did not but this is you we are talking about :D:D

PhantomChaos 03-24-2005 12:02 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
The GPS? In my pocket! (or over board) It's the one thing that slows down the boat!

PhantomChaos 03-24-2005 12:06 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
You guys are all tweaked about the voltage meters! I have two. I have two batteries. If the bat switch is in the both mode....then they would read the same. If it is not in the both mode, each reads its battery when the associated key is turned on.

It's not rocket science!!!

Audiofn 03-24-2005 12:20 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Bet it does not work that way :p :p If it did then you had only one battery selected then how is the keys powered independently? Every notice that you volt meters read the same? :D:D Anyhow it is easy to get the same thing with only one. :cool: :cool:

Poorsche 03-24-2005 12:56 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Formula wired the 12V system thru a single battery switch on my 88 SR357 but they put two volt meters on the dash. This wiring gives false readings on the voltmeters when running engines in the "both" position from what I've been told. It can creat a situation wherein you won't know that an alternator is failing (or has failed) most of the time. My mechanic and I proved I had that problem and re-wired at least part of the system and I've now got two battery switches and I can look at each battery and alternaotr seperatly.

There is still a poor design in the 12V system because both battery's/alternators feed the 12v bus under the console at the same point (running lights, dash lights, aux--14 fused circuits). The circuit breaker panel under the rear seat is also wired in a similar way so that both batteries feed all 4 of the trim pumps, blowers, stereo, bilge pumps.

I'm working thru re-wiring all that so I can get to a seperate "house" battery which is impossible the way the boat was wired at factory.

RedDog382 03-24-2005 06:03 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
The GPS? It's the one thing that slows down the boat!

That ... and FAT CHICKS! :evilb:

RedDog382 03-24-2005 06:06 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
The volt meter on my 382 dash reads the engine/start battery voltage. The electrical control panel in the cabin reads the house battery voltage.

Audiofn 03-27-2005 11:49 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Wonder why everyone seems to hav gotten away from a truely usefull guage, the amp meter!!!! They will show a problem way before you will know with a volt meter.....

Jon

PhantomChaos 04-14-2005 12:32 AM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
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Update.....just test fit the panel today before plating and painting. Making a few extra blanks with NO gauge holes. Who knows......somebody might want to get one from me!!! :drink: :drink: :drink:

Front and Back sides

PhantomChaos 04-26-2005 02:23 PM

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Getting very very close now!!! :D :D :D :drink: :drink:

dukenrock 04-26-2005 03:33 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Some of those chrome sticks that Troutly's boy was talking about would look nice!! :D


Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
Getting very very close now!!! :D :D :D :drink: :drink:


PhantomChaos 04-26-2005 04:03 PM

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What chrome sticks......

dukenrock 04-26-2005 04:08 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
You know, those things you push forward to make the boat go faster :D Get that new steering wheel Formula has too...It would look great with your colors.

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
What chrome sticks......


dukenrock 04-26-2005 04:12 PM

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Kind of a bad picture, but the steering wheel is white with a little red insert at the bottom. You might be able to see those chrome sticks here too.

PhantomChaos 04-26-2005 04:17 PM

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The sticks I see now.......nice. Is that custom?


The wheel.....I like the all white for now.

dukenrock 04-26-2005 04:30 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
The wheel is stock, the chrome sticks I believe are new for 2005 Formulas.

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
The sticks I see now.......nice. Is that custom?


The wheel.....I like the all white for now.


RedDog382 04-26-2005 04:32 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Nort,

I think they are now standard issue. Livorsi makes them, but also consider the Livorsi billet race controls. I just put a set in mine. The billet race controls look more stout than the standard, but both are very nice. Check out the Livorsi catalogue or website. The billet race controls list for about $1300, but Fred @ Trick sells them for $990. I already sold my old controls for $350, so it only cost me about $600 to upgrade.

RedDog382 04-26-2005 04:37 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Still have your old dash panel? I still would like to reserve first dibbs on it on behalf of WAGS382 if you will be willing to part with it.

Thanks,

RD

PhantomChaos 04-26-2005 04:53 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Yep.....still have it and really don't need it. Remember...it has a hole for a GPS in there and it's pretty dirty too! :D :D :drink: :drink:

PhantomChaos 04-26-2005 04:58 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by Audiofn
Bet it does not work that way :p :p If it did then you had only one battery selected then how is the keys powered independently? Every notice that you volt meters read the same? :D:D Anyhow it is easy to get the same thing with only one. :cool: :cool:


My bad.....only one volt meter on mine. It's been too long since I LOOKED!

dukenrock 04-26-2005 05:00 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
How are you coming along with your overhaul? Good weathers just around the corner. :drink:

Originally Posted by RedDog382
Still have your old dash panel? I still would like to reserve first dibbs on it on behalf of WAGS382 if you will be willing to part with it.

Thanks,

RD


PhantomChaos 04-26-2005 05:12 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
The overhaul is done......heading to Havasu on Friday early AM. Are you talking about the Family Performance article? :D :D :drink: :drink: :drink:

dukenrock 04-26-2005 05:19 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Actually I was asking RedDog, but that's great yours is done too! Not sure what you did besides the dash. I'm sure that was a nice little project. Wish I were going to Havasu :( Have fun and drink safely :drink:

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
The overhaul is done......heading to Havasu on Friday early AM. Are you talking about the Family Performance article? :D :D :drink: :drink: :drink:


cuda 04-26-2005 05:37 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
Yes Jon! Momma didn't raise no dumby!!! :D :D
:D

Grew up away from home, did ya? :D

RedDog382 04-26-2005 05:53 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Kevin,

Motors are back in the boat. Just finishing up some rigging on electrical, cooling, fuel lines, exhaust. She will probably be ready by this weekend, although it looks like the weather will be less than tropical. :(

Looking forward to running with you. LEOPA spring poker run is June 4th! :drink:

PhantomChaos 04-26-2005 06:18 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
RedDog....what did ya do?

RedDog382 04-26-2005 06:52 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Last night ... or did you mean to the boat? :D

Pulled the motors to fix a bunch of stuff:

replaced bad bilge pump, wiring, and hoses
Upgraded to Stef's oil pans.
Fixed and upgraded timing cover leak.
Correct wiring harnesses (initially rigged with my 311 harnesses)
thermostatically controlled oil coolers
oil pressure bypasses (dials in pressures identically between the two motors)
Livorsi bliiet race controls
new trim switch buttons
Sony stereo and remote (No more !#@$* Kenwood theft lock :evilb: )
cleaned bilge and re-gelcoated a few areas
upgraded Max Machine drives

PhantomChaos 04-26-2005 08:04 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
Sweet! Sounds like a lot of work! Does that boat have the 4-bolster setup? Also, did it have Prochargers originally? So does WAGS382 want the panel?

dukenrock 04-26-2005 08:09 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 
I'll be ready soon. Formula has it right now for the fitting replacement. I should have it back soon. Everything else is ready to go. I think I have the FloScan fixed. Found a bad crimp. :eek: Should have done it myself...Oh, forget that, I did do it myself! :D If it wasn't so far, I'd hit Havasu this weekend :drink: Hope everyhting works out on your repairs. Oh, I also fitted my boat with some fishing poles, just so I can sneak into those restricted areas. :D :D

Originally Posted by RedDog382
Kevin,

Motors are back in the boat. Just finishing up some rigging on electrical, cooling, fuel lines, exhaust. She will probably be ready by this weekend, although it looks like the weather will be less than tropical. :(

Looking forward to running with you. LEOPA spring poker run is June 4th! :drink:


RedDog382 04-26-2005 09:17 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
Does that boat have the 4-bolster setup? Also, did it have Prochargers originally?

NO 4 bolster set-up (I call it a six-pack). I really don't like the 4-bolster for recreational boating. You just can't move around at all in the cockpit. I think these are very difficult re-sale for that reason.

It originally had 585 h.p. E.F.I. Lingenfelter motors (not prochargers). They are long gone by previous owner. I bought it without power and dropped in the 645 h.p. Sterlings out of my 311.

It is in the back of the '99 brochure, and very briefly in the '99 promotional video. Previously owned by Dwayne Dean out in Arizona. It might have been on a few SCOPE runs. He has a 40 Skater now ... Lickety Split (?) I think. I bought the 382 from Jeffrey there in Newport Beach July '03. Maybe you've seen it?

RedDog382 04-26-2005 09:19 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
So does WAGS382 want the panel?

I know he wanted to add oil temp guages. I'll let you know after I talk to him soon.

Thanks,

Chris

RedDog382 04-26-2005 09:28 PM

Re: Formula Dash Panels
 

Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
Sweet! Sounds like a lot of work!

An annual rite of winter here in Ohio. The snow and ice gives a chance to fix all the stuff we broke during the five month boating season here! :D


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