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fountain 47 sc 01-19-2008 05:25 PM


Originally Posted by REDDEATH (Post 2413085)
PS i almost fell i am talking myself out of the Fountain .I

Whatever you get, running those speeds in the New Jersey Atlantic is going to beat the hell out of your boat. Even with #6 dry sumps and 1050 mercs you can expect about $50,000 a year in maintenance, insurance, etc. It is a totally different world than it was 15 years ago for insurance and expenses. Plus, that is with no breakage or major mechanical problems (just look at the cost of the recommended maintenance on those motors).

Back4More 01-19-2008 06:12 PM

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If its a Fountain you like, the 42 with 700/6's is the hot thing up here right now...
Scott has sold 4 of these to guys in my Marina.
I have seen them in big water at our poker run and fun run.
Seem to get there before most others.

bob 01-19-2008 08:16 PM

Talk about expense, word is Merc is saying the 700's need to have the uppers gone thru every 100 hrs.? That will definetly get the money flowing:D I think I can get 700 a heck of alot less expensive.

Panther 01-19-2008 08:49 PM


Originally Posted by REDDEATH (Post 2413022)
John the water in the photo is more or less typical for an average NJ DAY.(giant to some average to those used to running the northAtlantic Ocean)Frank i spoke to Chuck about this.He said exactly what you said ,about riding on top of the water in his 42 Fountain.He also was of the opinion that a Cig,LS Scarab or Apache would probably be a better fit for me due to the fact i want to be able to take day trips without having to worry about getting the crap beat out of me.(Chuch relayed the experience he had off Long Island in 8 s plus with his 42 )

PS, Johnny Stanch lives here in NJ and has been boating in our area for a long long time! :cool-smiley-011:

Yeah, that trip they had was rough..... Some pale faced passengers that day.... Billy was on his Sonic and didn't get beat up half as much... then when his engines started shutting down left and right from the salt water getting into the ignition modules it made things 10 times worse...:hitfan:

fountain 47 sc 01-19-2008 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by bob (Post 2413412)
Talk about expense, word is Merc is saying the 700's need to have the uppers gone thru every 100 hrs.? That will definetly get the money flowing:D I think I can get 700 a heck of alot less expensive.

Yes, and that's just 700's! I like triples with a big, heavy boat. There is much less stress on the motors and drives. I have triple stock 502 EFI's and can run all day at cruise on 87 or 89 octane and not even worry, but I can only go low 70s.

REDDEATH 01-20-2008 08:16 AM

I realize it is going to cost. I am used to mid 80s in a 31 foot boat so to me at least if i am now in a 40 i want the ability to run in the 100s.(By going with the 6 drive i will remove alot of problems associated with Bravos, also please remember a very, very good friend of mine is my engine builder ( has done my race Viper for years )-so i get parts at cost and labor at a fraction of others)

REDDEATH 01-20-2008 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by fountain 47 sc (Post 2413458)
Yes, and that's just 700's! I like triples with a big, heavy boat. There is much less stress on the motors and drives. I have triple stock 502 EFI's and can run all day at cruise on 87 or 89 octane and not even worry, but I can only go low 70s.

Believe me if i could get away with the Bravo i would .I know myself ,past experience dictates i would break one monthly.I am better off with the 6s.Engine wise i plan to to have a spare short block in reserve should anything break mid summer.(My engine builder builds twin turbo Viper engines in the 1700 hp range so a 1000hp blown 572 with 6-8 lbs of boost is certainly within his capabilitys

fountain 47 sc 01-20-2008 08:36 AM


Originally Posted by REDDEATH (Post 2413684)
I realize it is going to cost. I am used to mid 80s in a 31 foot boat so to me at least if i am now in a 40 i want the ability to run in the 100s.(By going with the 6 drive i will remove alot of problems associated with Bravos, also please remember a very, very good friend of mine is my engine builder ( has done my race Viper for years )-so i get parts at cost and labor at a fraction of others)

Well, that's a whole different story. That will make a huge difference. A lot of guys think of the initial cost but grossly underestimate the other ongoing expenses of big power.

Back4More 01-20-2008 10:17 AM

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REDDEATH 01-20-2008 01:31 PM

I would try to get one with the stepped bottom


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