Awesome.

Thank You!

I was just looking thru the last few pages here and thinking I should make a comment to try to get this back on track. You are right on target here, much like the threads about things when Brunswick sold Baja to Fountain. Some thought it was good, some not so good.

I was thinking that the original deal here was that you needed to be In before you could get Out.

As far as not being a Fountain fan, I can respect that. I have always said that if we all wanted the same boat there would be one boat. We would all have one of them. ;)

Again, thank you.
Ragged

Here it is, what accelerated all this.
I heard a rumor reggie left. I went stright to the fountain section to see if it was true. Never been here before and while reading this thread I was shocked how brainwashed fountain owners are! So I thought I answered the original question, in a fun and joking manner, also saying positive comments sticking up for fountain, reggie, and the sucky situation with the new owners. I admit I did not understand the original question was for fountain owners only. I still agree with everything I wrote. I love all powerboats and the lifestyle that goes with it. I feel proud that I did not personally attack anyone like I have been. I started all this so I am ending it. Never will I come back to the fountain section and feel welcome. Please now go on and enjoy your emotional hugging and counsleing session all fountain owners need to deal with this news. Anyone who wants to enjoy my funny, happy, smiling comments come on over to the general boating discussion area. Thanks!:drink:

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If this boat was on "The Rough Lake" you'd have been pulled over and following a pen tip with your eyes. :lolhit:

But with that being said... AWESOME TRANSOM!!! :evilb:


Back to the regularly scheduled programing.
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Intercoastal in Destin Idling....won 6k that night of the poker run...it was a great day and a long drive home the next day:coolcowboy:

Call it what you want...I call it loyalty / pride in ownership. I am on my 3rd one at age 33. I have spent a lot of time in my friends boats of all makes and models....still come back to Fountains....what nobody has mentioned about a Founatin, is if you want to run in the rough water, you have to get on top of the waves.....:coolcowboy: Fountains loves to be on top of the waves:)

All my Fountains were run in the Atlantic Ocean. No lakes, no rivers, NO BS. The 42 is the best handling hull in that water in it's class. Cig, OL etc.

My 33 outlaw is one of the best Baja hulls made, fits ME perfect, is paid off (I am 27), fast, reliable, handles, etc. Has a huge extended cockpit with room for 10 (not 5 like a fountain).

Thanks for calling me a hater. I also am not putting down fountains just calling them junk (one step above bayliner!)
You also must have not read any of my positive comments throughout this thread.[/QUOTE]

I figured you were around 18.

I will put my "junk" up next to urs anyday.

Cmon man. You have came in here from the get go, bashing Fountains. Making references as to the size of them, outdated look, quality, etc. You mentioned as a dig, that reggie used "merc" power. ok. So he did. Let me ask you, when was the last time you saw a baja sporting some #6 speedmasters hanging off the back? Or Any speedmaster style drive? How about a 1075/#6 package in a outlaw?

Would you go to a local car show, and look at a mint restored 1970 LS6 chevelle, and start telling the owner what "junk" his car is, and how your 1968 VW bug is better in every way?

I'll say it again, Baja makes a nice boat. But take it from a guy only a couple years older than you, who has owned several big offshore boats. What makes a offshore boat a great boat is how its put together. Period. I dont give a $hit about the color of dash panels, graphics, i-pods and I-pads. What i care about is stringer construction, deck to hull joints, bottom design, overall rigging, and of course the correct power setup.

I say this because if all the above isnt there, what you end up with is a big pile of junk. I am not a fan of hull to deck joints secured by wood screws and glue, engine mounts bolted to stringers by wood lag screws, offering a 70+mph boat from the factory with cable steering.

You say go ride in a 33 Fountain, then come ride in yours, and one would be impressed. Maybe. I would love to see you run with "10X" side by side in his outdated, old, small, 33FT Fountain. I have seen him first hand run next to 38-46FT Cigarettes at 100+MPH in ROUGH lake michigan water.

No company has done more testing, tweaking, and tuning on their hulls more than Fountain that i can think of. EVERY boat they built, whether it had stock power or big power, got dropped in the water, and sea trialed, and the new owner got his own performance report of that hull.

Maybe you can give one of your chicks on the boat a tube of super glue and a screw gun to make sure your deck stays put when the water gets rough! :drink::party-smiley-004:

LOL, here is offshorexcursion PM he sent me:

Its amazing that you did not understand my point. Please read the entire thread, so you can understand whats going on. Seems like you just skimmed it, saw what you wanted, got jelous that I have a sweet boat thats paid off, and started running your mouth. I have not personally attacked you so why are you attacking me. Especially when I admited my mistake (of responding to a "fountain owners only" thread). My comment about "junk" was being sarcastic because the others were calling my boat a bayliner (ie junk). COME ON, you know its better then a bayliner. I was just as shocked as everyone else that reggie left. I said plenty sticking up for the brand, and how horrible the situation is with the new investment company. I still am allowed my "opinion" on boats. If every boat was the same, boating would be pretty lame.

How about you go back through all my quotes and pick out the good, and say nice comments about it. Your boat sounds nice, but mine is also, especially for the price, and what I use it for, etc.

I tried to end all the personal attacks, and let the thread go back to the current fountain owners sharing their thoughts. Why do you have to continue it. It took a big man not to personally attack people back, admit my mistake, and leave the thread. Yes I PM'd you because I am so surprised you are keeping this negative tonned thread alive. Please delete your comment, apologize, or something to get that thread back on track.

Kevin


Guess what Kevin, my 47 Fountain is paid for also and the brand new King Ranch F350 pulling it. Grow up and take some spelling lessons.

I bought a 1988 Fountain in 1998 and still have the same boat. It started out with 496 cube big blocks with #2 speed masters and it now has a pair of 540 cube blown big blocks making 900 HP and @3A drives . This boat at 100 MPH handles like it is on a rail, this is one fine boat.

Now now - lets not get our little feelings hurt.

42 hull best all around hull ever built. Used to get tweaked every year (who knows now...). But I love mine and huge sun deck.

I am also an owner who went from 33 Baja to 42 Fountain see detailed comments below:

2004 Baja 33 Outlaw 496 HO's with 28P Mercury Racing labbed Bravo 1's. Absolute maximum speed with a 2 mile straight away and every tweak I could manage was 72mph. The anytime top end was 68. Cockpit was large but was too big making the driving position too far forward making for a rougher ride. The boat planed and handled around the docks well and was pretty but was built on a budget. The engines were too close together and I needed mirrors and long grabber pickups to retrieve anything I dropped under them. The in gel graphics on the foredeck began to fade after one Texas summer. The mid cabin bilge pump was 2" above the bottom of the boat and I had to design a custom pickup.The factory Polk/MOMO subwoofers rattled the boat so bad they could never be played too loud. The stereo head unit from the factory was wired wrong and even after taking it back to the dealer twice I had to re wire it MYSELF to make the front, rear, left, right balance control work properly. The cabin materials were low budget and stained easily. In our first year 4 of the Carlisle tires on the factory trailer blew in a 3 hour period on on a July 4th trip from Houston to Austin (well, yes it was 104) but these were load range D. Screwed the trip up with all the delays.

2005 42 Fountain Executioner 525's with 30P BBlades labbed Maximus props max speed is 85mph with 82-83 seen anytime. And thats with 3/4 gas. Cockpit is fine for 5. Has vacu flush potti for the ladies. Boat planes fair but once up feels grand. Smooth and controlled and not choppy or rocking from side to side like the Baja. Staggered engines are very easy to service and maintain and I can retrieve anything from under them. Factory installed dual bilge pumps in rear. Huge sun deck, enough room for 5 people! Trailer has Goodyear load range E tires on their 6th year. Stereo not great but was wired properly from the factory. Huge cabin with nice materials. Hull solid as a rock. No fading of paint in 5 years. Easy fit cockpit cover from the factory is much easier to apply than the factory cover that came with my Baja.

Good for you its paid off. The last 42 fountain I bought new was done with a wire transfer of $280,000. I never had to "pay it off". When you get a little older come back and talk about your vast knowledge LOL

You know what gets me is that is about the same speed my 32 runs with HP500EFI motors.

10 more feet, 5000Lbs more and only 50 more HP.
Pretty cool.

BTW

The steps on the 32 changed sometime around 1999 / 2000 mine has the later one. Yet 5 years later the 42 pretty much will kill mine everywhere.

Could be your propping. Have you called Brett at BBladdes?

WOW!!! That is a GREAT DAY!! :drink:

In Missouri the Water Patrol would freak the hell out if they would have seen this. That is the "broken tail light" pull over on water with a ticket usually, along with checking you and everything on your boat. :angry-smiley-038:

That is a GREAT picture of a transom and I was not picking on you, just trying to lighten it up a little.

BTW... please tell all those ladies thank you for being you. :evilb:

NICE Transom !!! LOL :hitit: Last season I was idleing through the harbor on one engine, maybe going 3-4 mph at the best to not make any wake. Had 4 girls sitting on the back hatch with their legs in the boat and their feet on the back seat, just sitting on the top of the back of the rear seat. Passed a chicago police boat, and the J/O gets on the horn and says that they need to be all the way in the boat. WTF ??? I'm idleing, and nobody's hanging out the boat, but then this cruiser goes by with the front deck loaded with people laying all over the front deck, and the J/O don't say $hit. You go figure it out. LMAO

Oh, well back to the topic................... NICE hatch !!!:hitit:

Nope not yet but maybe this year.

"a 43-foot sport boat, a greatly enhanced and up-tuned version."

"I haven’t upgraded the styling of either of those boats since 2004."

"We are going to be a custom boat company. That’s how I started, so I’m going back to my roots."

I am glad Reggie himself admits how outdated his old boats were, how they need to be more up scale like the competition, and how the current fountain is NOT a custom boat company but a production boat company!

So is everyone on here want to go bash Reggie like you did me? Or admit I was right! Well at least I got some entertainment watching everyone get all worked up! LOL!

If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :)

Sure I have nothing to do so I will take the bait, not sure why you have such a Hard*n for fountains but what the heck.:drink:

Of the other production boat manufactures out there, (I don't recall anyone arguing with your point that they are "production") what changes have they done. This seems to be one of the things you have a huge problem with, and they can’t haul around a ton of people like a pontoon can. :evilb:

Easy just having fun with you,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I really would like to know changes the other manufactures have done.

Lets look at say the 42 lightning. The current style came out around 1999/2000, right?

2004 windshield (Very minor).
Cabin Door - Changed to slider in 2005
Bottom Changed - 2005
Cockpit Changed - 2007
Dash Changed - 2007
Cabin Changed – 2008

Baja:

You seem to be the Baja guy, (and I have friends with them, they are a ton around our parts), can you list say the changes on a 35 or 42 outlaw? I have no idea.


DONZI:

A 38 ZX I don’t think has had a change since they put steps bottoms on them long ago.

When did the 35/ 38ZR’s come out and what changes have they had? I know they have had some but can’t remember what they are. Anyone?

Checkmate:

I think they have came out with a lot in just the last couple years but don’t know. Anyone know what they have done with the Convincor 300?

Formula:

When is the last time they changed their FASTech’s? Quality is great but we are talking changes, I think they have been the same for at least a decade.

Sunsation:

Not really sure I would call them a “production” company, just for fun what changes? They have came out with 2 new boats, I would think if you include them in the production class that is the most anyone has done.


Cig:

I know, not production but I have been wondering, what changes has the 38 top gun went through in the last 10 years, bottom, interior, and cabin.

They are over the top, I don’t see someone choosing a fountain or Cig, they are in two different classes. Kind of like when people compare the fountain to a outerlimits,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, yea and I went shopping for a lambo but bought a vette instead.:lolhit: Doubt that happens.

Last thing, what would you fountain guys see changed? I like the left handed throttles, but would like to see them get away from Bravo's behind the boats.

Oh yea, better wiring,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I'm still trying to figure out how a fountains interior is outdated compared to baja's especially the newer fountains???

This was a race that went wilder and wilder... I am not joking with you. Fountains can be raced right out of the box. I have drivien my 29 Fever in 7 RACES and there is just a big joy every time. The only thing that went wrong, was one time the after market heat exchangers wfalling off the engine... And the connector for the fuel pump that came loose from its position and was torn apart in heavy waters. The performance is insane if you know how to drive a boat. The bow is unique in these conditions. It is a boat that you just can't get enough of... Now it has 750 houres and runs just as strong as when it was new. To say it is "abused" is somewhat correct, but it just stays toghether and shines like a little diamond. That is quality! It is used primarily as a weekend boat but also a raceboat :)

Here are some pics..: http://www.playmarine.no/albumview.asp?albumID=223

No offense, but you cant run a 29ft Fountain at 75mph in 6-7ft seas. Maybe 2-3's but not REAL 7ft seas. No 29ft boat could. Not even Reggie would say that feasible. Happy to hear Reggie is moving forward with his new venture.

Glad you enjoy your boat but I cannot believe your speed and wave height claim.
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I really like how the blue appears to be a refelection off the water. Nice!

LOL, I am so ashamed that I own a production junk Fountain. I wish I has a quality boat like your Baja. My buddy's 42' Fountain with twin 1075's is just a average production boat. Nothing custom.

Very nice pictures and a well cared for Fountain. Clean, nice boat. Congratulations!!

Just one question: What months can you run your boats around in short sleeved T shirts in Norway? The North Sea is ice cold year round isn't it?

Andy

Whens the last time the 33 Baja was updated? NEVER? Do they even make that model anymore? When has Baja updated their NON STEPPED (straight from 1970's) hull design or dashboards? I dont think they ever have... the 25 outlaw is the ancient 24 + one foot. What else? 35 is the 33 plus two feet? The 33 Lightning will walk all over a 33 outlaw with equal 496 power, now thats funny :lolhit: Everyone coming in here bashing must be p**** they have a old non-stepped bathtub that probably can't crack 68MPH :drink:

You come on here bashing Fountains. Then get your little feelings hurt. Go into a biker bar and start bashing Harleys and see what happens. In my orginal post I conceded your baja was a grade above a bayliner. GEEZ! Most of us Fountain owners love our boats. Sometimes its a love/hate thing as with most High performance toys. But love them none the less.

Just wondering? Do any Fountain guys go on the baja forum and bash them? Seems like shootin' fish in a barrel, but just wondering.

I think the big question is how many Fountain owners have sold there boat to buy a Baja?

Oh MAN !!! Sign me up, hurry before they change their mind !!! "NEVER" LMFAO :lolhit:

I agree! I have owned 3 (Reggie) Fountains. But if Reggie left his name (Fountain) it had to be for a reason! With all the other boats being built under the same roof with Fountain you have to ask if the Quality will be there? Keeping mine!

I have also owned 3 Fountains, and I had a bunch of Foutain stock. I am disappointed Reggie is not there, he was Fountain, it's just not the same without him.
I am keeping mine for now, love the boat, just had the motors freshened.
Reggie was like Richard Petty to me, the KING

43 ft sportsboat? Fountain doesn't make a 43 they only make a 42 and a 47. Secondly, the interior was changed around 2007 so whoever said this was either lying or the quote is out of context and no you weren't right you were wrong.

WOW! You've gotta love it.........fight on.... :angry-smiley-038:

The quote is from Reggies new company RF power boats. :coolcowboy:

:lolhit:

reggie, is still like petty and even #3, they are the best and in my life time will allways be the best, I have not owned 3 fountains but I have had two , and have rode in hundreds of others and nothing can even come close to the way these fountains run. maybe reg will start a new line called the rr series, reggie replaca and keep what he knows on the market. even if he doesnt the comp still will not catch up to his kowledge for some time.

And here is the exact quote:

Bingo! The styling, that doesn't mean he didn't cahnge the interiors or the layout so I was correct it was taken out of context. Also, you said the interiors were changed since 1985. You were wrong, big time. :drink:

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