Oh I get it now.

I own a legitimate, tax paying auto repair shop. I am surrounded by backyard mechanics who some would consider my competition. They clearly have much less overhead than I do, and can afford to do jobs for less than I. I could care less if they pay taxes or not, that is their problem not mine. I focus on my quality of work and reputation, and point out the benefits of my business, never the faults of my competition. For 3 years now I have enjoyed steady growth and am consistently busy.

In short, I mind my own business. You should too.

Hey...thanks for the lecture...you sure did set ME straight and convince me that having a well-formed, reasoned opinion on something was COMPLETELY out of line. I apologize to the whole internet, but especially to you, my new friend.

Actually...consider your business load if those guys were not around...or were on equal footing? Wow...you could probably have more money for gas! Crazy...I know...but I'm always talking crazy stuff like that. You'll find that out now that we are good friends...

I can disagree with you on this, and still consider you a friend. As a matter of fact, you have a pretty kick ass boat and we enjoy the same hobby, so we most certainly would get along just fine.

My philosophy is to focus on my business, analyze my competition, and see what I can do to set my business apart from theirs. It works for me, and probably works for you as well judging by that good looking red Active Thunder. I learned fairly early that wondering or hoping that things were fair in an unfair world was a waste of energy and an easy way to unnecessary frustrations. You are right, I probably could have more money for gas, or more money for 525's, or any other number of things, I just choose not to worry about what others do or say or try to change things that really aren't my responsibility to change, like whether or not my competition is paying the same fees and taxes as me.

I probably could have left the last sentence out of my last post, rereading it I do sound pretty condescending. For that I apologize.

We are still friends I hope.

Aww group hug :kiss::drink:

:drink: Most assuredly. I wish you nothing but the best in your business AND boating endeavors...and I feel the same way about Phil. The sarcasm key frequently gets stuck in the ON position on this stupid keyboard. I admire your world view, and wish I felt the same way. I manufacture a product that is pretty niche, but I nonetheless have to be concerned about foreign competition...there are tariffs and laws in place (for now, anyway) that attempt to ensure a level playing field, which, I think, helps me out. I do realize "life is not fair" (Mom taught me that), but having been raised in an environment in which it was constantly imbued upon me to "always play fair," I cannot help but carry that sense into my adult life and have it weighing upon opinions that I might form.

These forums, like it or not, seem to be rife with opine...and though ours may differ in both content and perceived relevance...I think we are ending up on the same page as far as wanting to see a cool Fountain project happen...

I`m with you Matt, lots of side job joes and Craiglists HVAC guys around who probably charge half my prices. Their customers are not my customers.

I don`t like how you guys worked it out so fast however.. :D

You SHOULD be on my side, dammit! I AM your customer! Lolololol.

easier then we did LOL

Too few performance boaters out there to make enemies with one over dumb chit. If he had a sailboat I would argue with him forever. :lolhit:

Quickest f*kin popcorn I ever ate on this site.

Mike, you need a $1800/year maintenance plan , I`ll be over Monday to finalize.:bunnydance:

As far as underbidding is concerned. I think I'm actually the most expensive around within a 2 hr drive. And, phragle, did you happen to miss the signature at the bottom of the page from my county office acknowledging I am a legal entity? If it was an application there would be no sigature. This is neither here nor there. I have 4 performance boats in my shop currently getting work from major structure repairs to custom paint. None are smaller than 35'... How many boats do you have in your shop? To everyone else, once this one customers boats face lift is done I will be starting a new thread for all the drama to entertain yall over the winter while I drink beer and get itchy :coolcowboy:

Hey wait a minute, why do you have to drag us sailboaters into your Butt and Weiner Fest .

Wheres Phragle ? need some backup here

WTF do I have to do with signatures????? Please address the jackassery to the correct jackass. While I am a jackass and have engaged in jackassery (drunken jackassery non the less), in this instance I am not the correct jackass. Far be it for me, a fine upstanding jackass, to take credit for another jackass's jackassery.

Is there a sufficient quantity of rum aboard this sailboat Tommy???

AHH no Rum today .

Gin and Tonics with a splash of lime . We are refined Sailors.

Tried to go out sailing this morning while the wind was blowing , but that Stick thing wouldn't fit under the bridge because of the unusually high tide .

i knew I should have just bought a porpoise and not a Super Porpoise.

oK back to the Show.



So Phil tell us about the Cafe Drama that happened this summer

just go find the pool party girl please....

Where to look first?? AA meetings or cheap dive bars???

Good info !!!

^^^ I`m happy to help in anyway I can.

Whoops, my bad! I meant Vintage! Sorry about that lol

We are going to need the Pics posted of that event again for Phragle to relive that FINE memory

it's not Halloween yet!!! This is going to be a great winter!!

I don't think you can fix that.





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One day I will find the pics I have with her.... Those will be the good ones hahaha

The ones of her eating your wifes french fries?? Or the ones when she was in the lobby screaming "Im not drunk" as she was taking her clothes off???

Black dildo ring a bell?? Lol

That black dildo was in more hands than an allstate agent...

1. A guy is going to rebuild a boat.
2. The guy gets his project ripped apart.
3. People support the guy.
4. People critque the guy.
5. A dildo shows up.

Oops haha

And you were expecting??????

I don't think we'd be allowed to have a thread exclusively for a dildo so someone seized the opportunity to incorporate it in here. Nice work.

carpe dildoieum

The reason you aren't finding Phil's business (which you should already know this if you are gonna call someone out) by searching under NY State Corporations is because Upstate Powerboats isn't a corporation it's a DBA (Doing Business As). If it were an LLC or a corporation there would be an Articles of Incorporation document. Phil, I highly recommend you become an LLC as soon as you can.

NOW ITS A PARTY! Hahaha!:lolhit:

seems like at least 1 dildo always shows up!!!!

Good luck with your project don't let the downers on here stop you and post results good or bad!

Hey Hey Hey

Lets not sidetrack some good dildo thread with some stupid boat project that will never get done.