35 ex theoretically
 

got myself a 04 ex to do some funky things to. going to pick it up in the next week or so. its a bare hull so im going to go nuts on it.

now, theoretically,

has anyone EVER staggered one?

has anyone put arnesons on a single step 35? if so how did it work?

are there any single step 35's with 3's 4's or 5's?

how much power is too much power for this hull?

i know side by side 525efi bravo will run deep into the 90's...


ill be posting photos of the build once i decide what to do. going to be the advertisment boat for 2017

cheers:ernaehrung004:

Im interested if there are any other 35's with #5 drives out there? Seems like a rare setup.

I seen one for sell about a year ago with no power. Swim platform was cut so you could trim the drives.

Its fiberglass, staggering it would be simple, nothing a sawzall cant fix, move some stringers and bulkheads...What you really need to figure out is what the stagger is going to do the CG on a single step.,,,35' is definitely long enough to stagger though. You plan on keeping the cabin? If you can shed that and watch the weight on the new stringer/floor setup you could theoretically shed a bunch of pounds and maintain the same CG..

Please Phragle don't feed the bull****.....

How fast is your 92/35? How much HP? Props? Any info much appreciated, research for consideration on my 92/35 factory stock 410hp per side B1 3blade 25p light fuel 72-73mph.
Thanks

stagger is another theoretically. right now im not sure about it. it seems like i will need to cut the rear bulkhead out and move forward. right now im just going to focus on the cockpit and windshield. this will be my boat for 2017 so im not going to dry and blast this out or rush it. in theory id like to keep the cabin because its all there in great shape. but im not sure how well that will work with an acura car style dash. something i will decide once im tearing into it.

what bull****? you think im just hoping and dreaming and wanting to build a boat? maybe ill throw some 330's and alphas on the boat and make her rip!

Everything you ever claimed so far has been a pipe dream..... Stop talking so much & just do it!

Pipe dream... Ok... Lol

632ci NA motors 825hp a side. 1.33 gear in the outdrives spinning merc. racing 4blade cleavers 16.5 dia. 29p at 5800 rpm. I have some tuning to do yet but I have seen 96mph on flat water full of fuel

Thats interesting. I haven't trimmed the boat to the moon yet but every time I bump the trim up it picks up a mph. I know I havn't been anywhere near the swim platform yet

Sounds like you have her really moving , what is your prop shaft center line ?

That hull wasn't designed to have that much weight forward - could throw off the CG. I"d do a lot of research on the subject and get hold of some of the old Fountain principals before you try a stagger. On the other hand there have been a number of 35's ex's with 800+ hp and shorties running 110ish with XRs. I think the swim platform is an issue with bigger drives.

I know of a 38 Fever that had Arneson 7m's installed and it was a great set up. I don't know why wouldn't it wouldn't work as well on a 35 ex. Again, ask some of the old gang at Fountain.

Regarding 525 efi's, they might get it to 90-ish- with the later drive heights and props, but not deep into the 90's as you state.

As the title says......."theoretically".

We know the drives create drag so we have more efficient drive aquadynamics to help reduce the drag. Quads create more drag than triples, triples more than twins and twins, more than a single. At what point in boat size and weight does a single become inefficient?

A single works on boats up to around 30' but who says you can't put a single on something bigger? You can run a couple of big power engines, say 700 plus hp so why can't you run a single with a Merc racing 1350 or bigger? Obviously you need the right drive and a fair bit of prop but weight should work out ok and you can reduce drag significantly.

Maybe a stoopid question but if money is not an issue, what is the theoretical size limit for a single engine performance boat?

RR

For what it's worth, my 525 twin step runs 90 - 92 on a pretty steady basis, 4 blades or 5 blades labbed and stock are all in the same range, single step hull will be mid 80's on a steady basis.

I do remember years ago when I was looking for a single step 35, one 35 that was factory done with the Merc 1000 HP's and 6's. It was a side by side set up and was claimed to run 125. Had a friend that had a '97 with 800+ and Bravos that ran just north of 110. The single step 35 hull is good for some real serious numbers, just takes some cash and balls, the world is your oyster!

Jus checked the drive alignment and the prop shaft center line is 34 5/16. didn't measure the X dimention but just by eye the prop shafts are around 6 inches above the bottom of the V.

Damn! Do you have hood scoops to clear your valve covers?

The props aren't 6" above the bottom, there above the keel. X dimension is measured in line with the drives fyi, only reference the keel on a single engine boat

to the poster saying do some research.. i chatted with RF3 told him my idea, said a stagger would be cool but not worth the work... probably going to drift away from stagger. he said asd will run good on that hull also. just need to find a set. i know i wont go bigger than 750's in it. RF3 said they did a single step with 700's and it ran 110 xr boat. im not trying to set world speed 35 record. i just want to spank all the other stock 35's around here LOL

I thought you were picking up that 36 Apache?

Hurry up I am waitinghttp://i882.photobucket.com/albums/a...psdqoqibni.jpg

Got tuning real close now and with the bad plug wire fixed and all 16 cylinders firing "THUNDERSTRUCK" ran gps 99 mph on flat water this weekend. Still chasing that century mark

this fountain i picked up was dirt cheap so its not going to be my main boat. this is just going to be something im building and messing with in between customers stuff. the apache still may happen, but the more i think about it id like to buy a fresh water boat not a salt boat. theres a couple other boats im checking out locally before i pull the trigger on one of them. thats the nice thing about it being a buyers market.

green lightning, whats your set up?? i havent seen that boat around

It is a straight bottom 35 with a asd 7 conversion

what power? any more pics?

It has dart 530's with vortech superchargers , pictures of what ?

pics of the boat?

just bad ones

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That is unique for sure, nice! Maybe we will get to see it up in the Bay next summer.

Now that the drives should not blow up every time out , I will give it a try

Photos of the stern?

Sure can , do you want top or side shots

Reading your questions about possibly changing your setup, and remembered a friend that bought a red-white&blue 35 Nordic called "Split Tail".
Boat had a single Paul Phaff engine going into a gearbox that ran twin Bravo drives. Boat ran really well (mid 90s) but without the weight of another engine back there, even with Maximus props had trouble getting any bow-lift.
Still was a fun boat to drive.

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What do you have for motors green?

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Green Lightning, loving the pics of your boat, looks stunning!
It is a bit like pulling teeth though. You're not giving up any secrets but when someone asks a specific question, you politely answer. I think there's a few people reading who would love the whole story but it's your boat so you don't need to give away too much.......Good for you, keep enjoying her!

RR

Well Rak Rua What you said pretty much describes me to a "T" I am not much of a bragger I let all my stuff do the talking for me , But I will always answer a question with the best of my ability with no BS

Green, pretty sure I've seen you idling out front of 3 mile. From a distance the boat looks black until the sun hits it just right. Looks great though! How hot does the deck get? Any interior pics? You've got the right to brag a little....