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Midwestcruiser 09-04-2023 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 4877385)
Boat was on a mission this past weekend at the lake Champlain poker run, It was the lead V by a good stretch. we started picking off the outboard cats till we lost a power steering belt and in return hit the crank position sensor. We didn’t get to finish the run and make it to lunch but we got to shut a lot of mouths and hurt some feelings!



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Isn't the the idea of a poker run just to have fun and not a dick swinging contest? Why is it a competition?

cheech 09-05-2023 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by Midwestcruiser (Post 4878756)
Isn't the the idea of a poker run just to have fun and not a dick swinging contest? Why is it a competition?

:7160:
Where's the dislike button?
Don't ruin this thread!
It's about the restore process of this boat and its new owner chiming in about the boat.
It doesn't need any Cruisers spewing their opinion about how people do run or should run their boats in Poker runs.

OSO is performance boating.
Maybe he was having fun running his performance boat to its potential.

BTW
If you had a big dick like his excellently redone, one of sixteen Fountain 42' PR you'd be swinging it all over also.
And rightly so!

sonicss42 09-06-2023 07:25 AM


Originally Posted by Midwestcruiser (Post 4878756)
Isn't the the idea of a poker run just to have fun and not a dick swinging contest? Why is it a competition?

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Comments like yours need to be kept to yourself as it serves no purpose.

SecondWind 09-06-2023 07:36 AM

Reminds me of the Friends of Nature speech



Knot 4 Me 09-06-2023 08:25 AM

You don't own a 42 PR and not let it eat at a PR!

Snowflake 09-06-2023 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by Midwestcruiser (Post 4878756)
Isn't the the idea of a poker run just to have fun and not a dick swinging contest? Why is it a competition?

I’m sorry this post hurt your feelings, I do suggest you not come back do to plenty more posts to come. Just a heads up!

Snowflake 09-11-2023 08:57 AM

so, after further investigation, we had to pull the motor we lost a power steering belt on. There was some internal things that happened from the crank position sensor being thrown out from the belt hitting it after it broke. Unfortunately we pulled out of the key west poker run rather than trying to rush it back together. A huge thank you to keith and shane for letting me use their shop and giving me a hand getting the motors out and over to island racing. While the motors are out I have island racing ordering and installing the 3.8 whipples on them. She will be back bigger and better next year!


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Wildman_grafix 09-11-2023 09:18 AM

With Whipple's that thing will be able to run with Billy's old PR. Nice.

What are you going to do with those intakes? I forget are they tall deck motors?


hogie roll 09-11-2023 04:15 PM

Are 42 PRs the same as a lightning from
the rub rail down? Or are they shorter?

Reggie Fountain 09-14-2023 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4879496)
Are 42 PRs the same as a lightning from
the rub rail down? Or are they shorter?

Same hull is used for all three.

hogie roll 09-15-2023 05:11 PM


Originally Posted by Reggie Fountain (Post 4879909)
Same hull is used for all three.

All 3 as in executioner? Wow. I heard those were an older bottom.

My question was is the freeboard the same? Height from the bottom of the boat up to the rub rail. Thanks

Reggie Fountain 09-15-2023 10:22 PM


Originally Posted by hogie roll (Post 4879984)
All 3 as in executioner? Wow. I heard those were an older bottom.

My question was is the freeboard the same? Height from the bottom of the boat up to the rub rail. Thanks

The Lightning, Executioner & Poker Run Edition all used the same hull. The same freeboard for all three, the poker run edition was not cut down. Only the Raceboats were cut down.

Snowflake 03-06-2024 03:14 PM

Motors are almost back together, Just waiting on a few fittings from whipple! Then we will see what kind of numbers we put down :drool1:
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dykstra 05-15-2024 06:28 AM

Any updates on this BAD unit??!!

Snowflake 05-16-2024 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by dykstra (Post 4898127)
Any updates on this BAD unit??!!

Motors are done, just waiting on injectors so we can get some dyno/tune time. Bringing the boat to glass Dave the 28th to glass in the ballast tank pickup and add two teague -16 adjustable pickups for chillers.

bencini231 05-16-2024 10:50 PM


Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 4898317)
Motors are done, just waiting on injectors so we can get some dyno/tune time. Bringing the boat to glass Dave the 28th to glass in the ballast tank pickup and add two teague -16 adjustable pickups for chillers.

You will love the 3.8 Whipples!! You will probably be suprised when you run them and there is no whine to them. I have had mine for 2 yrs and have had zero issues.

IGetWet 05-17-2024 05:28 AM


Originally Posted by bencini231 (Post 4898321)
You will love the 3.8 Whipples!! You will probably be suprised when you run them and there is no whine to them. I have had mine for 2 yrs and have had zero issues.

Wait wait wait, no whine with the 3.8s?! That’s no good.

bencini231 05-17-2024 09:27 PM


Originally Posted by IGetWet (Post 4898328)
Wait wait wait, no whine with the 3.8s?! That’s no good.

I call it stealth mode..lol

glassdave 05-30-2024 09:32 PM


Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 4898317)
Motors are done, just waiting on injectors so we can get some dyno/tune time. Bringing the boat to glass Dave the 28th to glass in the ballast tank pickup and add two teague -16 adjustable pickups for chillers.

good meeting you and seeing the boat again, thanks for bringing it out and glad i could help. This is rarely said in this biz but that went pretty easy and quick lol (thanks for the beers btw:drink:)

Brad Christy 05-31-2024 07:07 AM


Originally Posted by bencini231 (Post 4898321)
You will love the 3.8 Whipples!! You will probably be suprised when you run them and there is no whine to them. I have had mine for 2 yrs and have had zero issues.

Bencini,

Isn't the blower whine primarily the cog belt; the air pulsing out of the cogs as the belt closes in? Multi-vee belts don't whine, right? I hear a slight bit of gear whine with my ProCharger, but the multi-vee is whisper quiet. Someone told me years ago that, if you drill holes in the valleys of the cogwheels that the bulk of the whine goes away. I've never seen one done to verify, though.

Thanks. Brad.

resurrected 05-31-2024 08:21 AM

My 177's were spinning about as fast as they would go and still be happy, multi vee belt and they screamed like banshees'

Snowflake 05-31-2024 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 4899274)
good meeting you and seeing the boat again, thanks for bringing it out and glad i could help. This is rarely said in this biz but that went pretty easy and quick lol (thanks for the beers btw:drink:)

Absolutely good meeting you too dave, thank you for getting right on it and working your magic. You do excellent work!
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glassdave 05-31-2024 01:22 PM

for those that are curious, that loose laminate sticking out with the red threads is peel ply. Its used to help balance that resin/fabric ratio, pull out excess and put a nice final working surface after the epoxy is cured.( :D giving away the glassdave secrets one at a time lol)

Snowflake 05-31-2024 02:30 PM


Originally Posted by glassdave (Post 4899321)
for those that are curious, that loose laminate sticking out with the red threads is peel ply. Its used to help balance that resin/fabric ratio, pull out excess and put a nice final working surface after the epoxy is cured.( :D giving away the glassdave secrets one at a time lol)

lol I dont think anyone is gonna second guess your tactics Dave.

Wildman_grafix 05-31-2024 03:40 PM

I may have missed it but why did you glass in the ballast tank pickup? Was the tank removed?

Snowflake 06-01-2024 07:48 AM


Originally Posted by Wildman_grafix (Post 4899328)
I may have missed it but why did you glass in the ballast tank pickup? Was the tank removed?

It was in the way for the left side intercooler pickup. I will eventually come up with a way to feed the ballast tank again.

glassdave 06-01-2024 07:53 AM


Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 4899322)
lol I dont think anyone is gonna second guess your tactics Dave.


at this point i would hope not lol :D i do always like to try and educate the masses when i can though. The peel ply thing is actually a pretty nice trick to have in the bag, Sparky at Viscous Powerboats gave me that one years ago and its one of my most passed along tips. . . . now get that thing in the water!

bencini231 06-03-2024 02:29 PM


Originally Posted by Brad Christy (Post 4899291)
Bencini,

Isn't the blower whine primarily the cog belt; the air pulsing out of the cogs as the belt closes in? Multi-vee belts don't whine, right? I hear a slight bit of gear whine with my ProCharger, but the multi-vee is whisper quiet. Someone told me years ago that, if you drill holes in the valleys of the cogwheels that the bulk of the whine goes away. I've never seen one done to verify, though.

Thanks. Brad.

Not to derail this thread, but I'm just answering a question. The Whipple uses a rib pulley like the serpentine belt style pulley with a twin screw compressor. The new design of the twin screw is quieter and creates less heat as well as more power at a lower boost then the previous 3.3 supercharger.

Brad Christy 06-03-2024 04:17 PM


Originally Posted by bencini231 (Post 4899502)
Not to derail this thread, but I'm just answering a question. The Whipple uses a rib pulley like the serpentine belt style pulley with a twin screw compressor. The new design of the twin screw is quieter and creates less heat as well as more power at a lower boost then the previous 3.3 supercharger.

Bencini,

That's what I thought. I was just referencing your comment about "less noise" from the Whipples. I was of the opinion that blower whine was primarily from the cogbelts (and maybe some form the sync gears, especially if they were straight cut gears). We've seen a few builds where cogbelts were used with Whipples, and my thought was that the whine would still be there. I was curious if the blowers themselves were quieter, or if it was just the lack of cogbelts you were referring to. Just trying to pack knowledge into this (hopefully decreasingly) vapid space between my ears.

Thanks. Brad.

offshorexcursion 06-06-2024 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 4899355)
It was in the way for the left side intercooler pickup. I will eventually come up with a way to feed the ballast tank again.

Ours is fed with the water after it leaves the tail pipe.

DallasBAJA 06-07-2024 08:17 AM

I have heard of ballast tanks for wake board boats and what not, but I didnt know they put them on speed boats. Im guessing that is only larger ones? Curious what these are used for or how much they effect the boat when you fill them up/dump them or when they are used. Noob question here.

Wildman_grafix 06-07-2024 08:40 AM

They are normally just used in race boats to help balance them in different conditions during the race, the PR's came with them.

Even the little class 700 boats have them.



Originally Posted by DallasBAJA (Post 4899939)
I have heard of ballast tanks for wake board boats and what not, but I didnt know they put them on speed boats. Im guessing that is only larger ones? Curious what these are used for or how much they effect the boat when you fill them up/dump them or when they are used. Noob question here.


Snowflake 10-02-2024 01:05 PM

Update
 
Haven’t posted anything in awhile so I figured I would update. We have been waiting on a base tune from an undisclosed tuner for 6 months and we finally have our hands on it! Gonna start the motors at island racing and verify everything is good before running them down to marks at precision marine for final dial in. In the mean time I have been working on the new fuel pump/filter mounts and plumbing for the new fuel/water setup. More pictures to come and hopefully some dyno numbers in the next month!!!


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Precision 11-17-2024 07:27 PM

Sent you a PM.

Diamond Dave 11-26-2024 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Snowflake (Post 4910433)
Haven’t posted anything in awhile so I figured I would update. We have been waiting on a base tune from an undisclosed tuner for 6 months and we finally have our hands on it! Gonna start the motors at island racing and verify everything is good before running them down to marks at precision marine for final dial in. In the mean time I have been working on the new fuel pump/filter mounts and plumbing for the new fuel/water setup. More pictures to come and hopefully some dyno numbers in the next month!!!


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Who makes those valves those look pretty neat I can't zoom enough to see the brand.

Brad Christy 11-26-2024 12:25 PM


Originally Posted by Diamond Dave (Post 4915341)
Who makes those valves those look pretty neat I can't zoom enough to see the brand.

Shop for PETERSON FLUID SYSTEMS Valves :: Racecar Engineering

Snowflake 11-27-2024 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Diamond Dave (Post 4915341)
Who makes those valves those look pretty neat I can't zoom enough to see the brand.


Peterson

Tiki Joe 06-17-2025 02:21 PM

any update?

dykstra 06-20-2025 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by Tiki Joe (Post 4928663)
any update?

Agreed! What's the latest with this bad mofo??!!

Snowflake 08-14-2025 09:29 PM

Running into some tuning issues, We found out we had a bad coil driver in the Ecm and we also changed to a 1075 coil setup so there is some more fine tuning. Motors made 1000hp at 5k rpm on 6lbs of boost so once dialed in they should definitely make the numbers we are hoping for. Unfortunately I don’t believe the boat will hit water this year but all good things come in time!


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