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Down here the Sarasota Herald Tribune, aka The Sarasota Fishwrapper, aka The Sarasota Bird Cage Liner is as biased as any newspaper in the country. I suppose the fact that they are owned by the NY Times accounts for some of that.

During the "RaisetheBridge" campaign last year, despite sending irrefutable proof of many many issues, they NEVER got it right. They wrote editorials that actually advised the Board of County Commissioners to completely ignore/circumvent the USCG. That went over REAL well. :rolleyes:

We won and got our 12 ft. bridge.


RaisetheBridge: 1

Sarasota County Commissioners: 0


RaisetheBridge went up against the County, FDOT, Venice Chamber of Commerce, Sarasota Herald Tribune, Nokomis Area Civic Association, I think even the girl scounts.


We kicked their collective azzes....:D :D

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Here's a new logo that can be used to fight any speed, noise or behavior limits. Live free or die.

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Mike,
I don't live in Mass, I live on Varney Point road in Gilford. Where do you live?

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Mike?

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Pantera: great idea but there's probably more Morons there so you'd get "outvoted".....:D

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I wonder if he's "Don" in drag.......:D

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Yeah, I can hardly wait for my next toothache. :rolleyes:

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whatever , still more lies. :drink:

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"What we have here,
is a failure to communicate"......

quote from Cool Hand Luke (I think that's the one)

we communicate, the "other" seems to tell falsehoods....:rolleyes:

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speedo now broke 4800 rpm and reading 30 mph , oh well i geuss im not speeding anymore. :drink:

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I'm confused (big surprise). One of Frank's letters to the editor was signed Meredith, now Gilford, I thought it was Upton, MA. He sure get's around :D If he lives on Varney Point Road, maybe he's Merrill in disguise :eek:

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Whoever he is he's certainly blown any credibility he might have ever had in THIS Forum.

To quote Too Old, "the guy's a knob"......

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I can't beleive you guys are still giving the A$$ the time of day. He's a pile of dog crap, just toss him in the trash and forget about him!!! :rolleyes:

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Mikey,
Thanks for helping me get the word around. Saves me time. Can you also post this info for me on Winnilakers, NHRBA, and the other go-fast sites? Winnfabs is getting a tremendous amount of positive reaction back from the civilized performance boaters who read this stuff, while you guys do nothing except ***** and moan on the forums.
your buddy,
Frank

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OSO is THE performance/offshore boating Forum in the world. Who else has 26,000 members?

Funny, all this time I thought we were civilized. Course, that got me nowhere in "Don's Forum". :D :D

Fountainatlast: you hit the nail dead center on the head. That chickenchit bastar) is only posting this crap to piss us off. That's why I'm basically ignoring him though I may make fun of him once in a while. It's just SO easy to do....:D :D

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After all, how could a guy live on Varney Point AND live in Gilford? must be lying.
Are you Steve Leavenworth of LRSPS? Do your views represent those of LRSPS?
Frank

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That's funny Frank,from many different locations, I am on a dock of 40 boats , of wich 90% are cruisers. And geuss what they don't wan't a SL either. Why because they see it the same way that Rep Currier does and was quoted as saying that "people have a wider agenda here than speed" and my favorite" we are not going back to squam lake"You clowns don't think that the sane people are on to you but they are you will start with the go fasts then it will be cruisers or pwc's.Your also a little bitter about that rafting bill that also got tanked , it's ok you can admit it . Why don't you just shut your whinney little hole and enjoy the lake for what it is. :drink:

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FO,
Then why are the other 25,994 members not joining you six? Don't you hear all the silence behind you? Perhaps the rest are too intelligent to buy into your lame Florida approach, and recognize that the only chance to salvage the sport in NH is to compromise, something you guys are too hard-headed to do. You might have sucked a few simpletons like Mikey Higgins into agreeing with you, but most guys who can afford a nice boat are also a bit more intelligent. We have had 10 times as many declared performance boat owners join us in support of HB162 than all of you guys that I've had bashing me on these forums put together. Your own people are abandoning you. You are a dying breed.
Frank

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I'm not trolling. Weren't you the one trolling for gay sex and NAMBLA literature a few posts back?

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Okay, you really want to have a go at me??? I'm more involved with offshore/performance boating than you and all of your so called supporters put together. I sit on two Boards of Directors for offshore groups, am the Chairman for the West Coast Chapter of the Citizens for Florida's Waterways, help put on three poker runs per year, put my own poker run on, help put on a national boat race, ALL FOR CHARITY. In 2003 I volunteered over SIX HUNDRED HOURS of my time for boating events, again to benefit charity.

Let me see if I can answer this so even a clueless lying jackass like you can understand. Where are the other 25,994 members??? Easy, they don't give a rat's ass about you, your agendas, your lies, your self centered ideology, and won't even bother to respond. You'll know they are there like last time when they had the speed limit hearing and no one from your side even bothered to show up. Yet there were certainly enough people that showed up against it. Ergo the proposal was tabled.

We support our views with facts. You don't. And listen to you talk about compromise???? That's the biggest joke you've written in this Forum. You are about one thing, ridding Lake Winnie of the offshore style of boats. Why? Because you don't like them. Guess what .... Too phucking bad. Keep going along and spouting your chit, at some point maybe even you will believe it. If you do then you're even dumber than I imagine you to be. Do you seriously believe that you are fooling anyone???? :rolleyes:

See the biggest difference between us is that we defend all rights of boats to enjoy that lake. You and your control freaks don't. You won't win. We won't let you.

Spout all the crap you want. We are the GOOD guys here.

Oh yeah, and again, at least here on OFFSHOREONLY even rubberheads like you can spout your crap. That's a hell of a lot more than your Forums will allow. I KNOW........

So take your lies, your agendas, your secret handshakes, go back to "weinieland" and sing chants about us evil offshore boaters.

You are a knob.

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Hey fasterthanthou...

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You state that you have ten times as many performance boat owners join you for a speed limit?

THEN PROVE IT..... So far all you do is run your mouth. And you wish that NH did as good as job as Florida does with it's boating population.

So I'm calling you out. Prove it. Put up or shut up.

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hey faster

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Fasterthanthou....

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Frank, don't get to full of yourself - most of us ignore you much like a whining kid in the mall. If you think anyone besides a blow boater and / or someone afraid of the water is joining your sissification of the lake your kidding yourself.

I'd love to know what you consider a performance boat - a twin mast?? :rolleyes:

By the way Frankie, I was in attendance of the last skirmish in Concord, it was something like 50 against (including the head of the Marine Patrol) to 1 in favor of HB162 - something tells me you weren't the one.

This guy deserves no more effort or attention, thankfully we can all use our Ignore List.

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I have NO DOUBT that it will....:drink: :drink:

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I have grown up on Winni. Since I was born I have called Salmon Meadow Cove home. I now own a house at the end of the cove and ride by where I grew up every time I head out. In the past 6 years my property taxes have DOUBLED. But I pay it, because I love my little spot of heaven. I work my ass off all week in, of all places, Marlboro Mass so I can afford to go up on Friday and decompress. I don't want to change anything about the lake, I want the lake to change me. That is why I return every spare moment I have.

You know what this speed limit does? It makes me sad, immeasurably sad. I took a boater safety course 5 years ago the first chance I got. I obey the 150 foot rule, my donzi passes the decible test, and I don't drive drunk on the lake. So why should I be penalized? Why should a law be forced on me that I have done nothing to deserve? Wouldn't the same results be reached by just enforcing the 150 foot rule? I have been involved with more near misses from cruisers, runabouts, and PWC's then I EVER have by a boat running at significant speed. Enforce the laws we have, and a speed limit will do nothing to increase safety. The "you damn whippersnappers" mentality will destroy the lake I enjoy.

Matt

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Nice to hear more people feel like I do! And FTT Go lay Down!

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Anyone get the Sunday unionleader.They quote this older gentleman , who cruises the lake in a large chris-craft cruiser, as saying" a speed limit would only hurt the guys who are racing around the lake and the guys who are racing around are drinking" and " boaters like himself regard H P boats as a form of invasive species of alien to the lakes traditions" and my fav is that hopes a sl "will rid the lake of the boats that cause the most grief " It's not the SL issue that pisses me of to the point of writing these posts, it's the ridiculous journalism and the out and out lies that get printed by these fools. These fools paint us to be a bunch of booze bag lunatics flying around the lake with no regard for others and that pisses me off . When the reality is that performance boaters are some of the most courteous boaters around always willing to help out other boaters and freinds , put on events for charity and donate time and money. And all these blowhards do is complain about us and make us out to be the bad guys, when they in-fact have done nothing probably to help others and use issues to push there agenda. Which is, and the people of Newhampshire and politicians know, to rid the lake of these types of boats and then to move on to there next target . These self centered folks will use the word " safety " try to remove the lake of everyone except themselves.SORRY FOR THE VENT BUT IF I TELL THIS TO THE OLD LADY ONE MORE TIME I'LL GET THE BOOT. All this issue does is piss people off and separate groups of boaters so rather than being able to focus on real issues like boat safety we just have a big pissing contest. Frank or whatever it is i challenge you to one thing , stop posting over here and when the time comes show up at the hearing and voice your ever so twisted opinion there.Just don't be surprised when your the only one in the room with a bunch that oppose the sl again. Once again sorry for the vent gents. :drink:

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from Sunday

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lot of quotes from week-end "residents". last time I checked the decision is being made by representatives of NH, representing NH residents, not week end visitors that vote in other states. typical BS from the Union Leader, find what serves your purpose and print it.


Quote:
“A speed limit would only hurt the guys who are racing around the lake. I won’t go out on the lake at night because it’s too dangerous. And the guys who are racing around are drinking,” says Mory, adding that he hopes a speed limit would “get rid of the boats that cause most of the grief.”



This from

Quote:
Island residents like Ron Mory of Marlboro, Mass., who spends three days every weekend from May to October at his Welch Island camp, is all in favor of it, maintaining that large, high speed boats have created a “fear factor” on the lake that ruins the boating experience for practically everyone.




heres my quote - "people from Marlboro MA are coming to NH to sexually abuse children" There is as much fact in both statements.
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Speaking of large Chriscrafts,you should see the wake that thing leaves.You see more people scrambling to get out of the way of that oversized wooden dilapitated Gilligans island piece of junk!He does more damage than he will ever know.

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You are SO right. They only things these arrogant self centered azzholes WON'T do is 1) state actual proof or facts and 2) TELL THE TRUTH.


And the guy with the Chris Craft whose wakes are among the biggest problem. I personally will donate fifty bucks to have a new name painted on the back of his barge, " I'm With Stupid ".....then he and "Fastercrapper" can go riding around together causing more harm than all the offshore boats combined.

This is not my first day on the beach but I will tell you this, a bigger collection of morons I've NEVER encountered in my life.

When the next hearing in Concord comes up, EVERY single offshore boater has a responsibility to ourselves to show up in force and show these mentally challenged retards once and for all just who they are up against. They just like to think that they've had their way for so long that it's become some kind of "natural right" they they get to run the show. Time for a MAJOR reality check....Good luck....Anything I can do just let me know.....:drink:

you guys want a laugh
 

our small minded person who's received all your attention in the last few days has been doing this on every forum he can find.
he visited a site in wolfeboro (http://tourist.wolfeboro.com/modules...ews&file=index) and has been called on all his lies. read below to see what the webmaster over on that site had to say about our little friend. he's talking about a poll on speed limits he posted. he allows anonymous posts, which our little friend took full advantage of.

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The poll that I posted in hopes to get a REAL public feeling on a boat speed limit turned out to be a total loss.

All the comments promoting a speed limit on the lake were posted by TWO people, consistent with bashing of the Marine Patrol that we had been forwarned about that took place on another lake website, causing them to ban a particular person. This person has a grudge against the Marine Patrol and had to use our website to try to support his cause.

Sir, at 65.175.151.153, I hope you find something better to do with your time. Anonymous postings pretending to be multiple people happen, but you took this, as well as the vote skewing to a whole new level.

We will do an analysis on the poll results, dropping all duplicate IPs that voted. I will post the results in the next few days.

you guys want a laugh
 

ll

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Website doesn't work :( . Sure it's correct?

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http://wolfeboro.com/ sites down

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Hey "slowerthanchit", this just keeps getting better and better. :D :D

"Here's your sign".......:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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OH BOY now we have his IP info :eek: :eek: :D :D :drink: :drink:

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Re: Lake Winnipesaukee Speed Limit
 

Jon,
What's your point? Are you saying I live in Rochester now too? I thought I lived in Mass? Is there only one Frank? Or are their thousands? Is "Frank" a nom for any speed limit proponent being used by people all over NE? What will his ID be next? What state will he come from next? Who is he? Don't the good people of Rochester have a right to their opinions too, regardless of their names? You are confusing everyone. Is that your goal? Nice distraction.
Frank