Lake Winnipesaukee Speed Limit
 

Support for the Lake Winnipesaukee speed limit has been gaining momentum over the past few weeks, through an organized campaign of misinformation and scare tactics. We need help in defeating HB 162. If you live in New Hampshire, please contact your state representative in opposition to this Bill. If you boat in New Hampshire, protect your boating rights, and please become involved in New Hampshire Recreational Boaters Association (NHRBA).

Thank you,

NHRBA.com

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I thought that bill had been tabled until at least next year....??????

Some of those posters on the Winni Forum are the worst self centered lying arrogant azzholes I have EVER come across. I got tossed from that Forum for daring to speak my mind. Their webmaster, Don, is pathetic.

Sorry, I didn't mean to start ranting here. I just dispise people of that ilk......:blaster: :blaster:

Best of the best of luck in your fight against them.

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It was tabled while they do more research.

Jon

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And they keep spewing that its gaining momentum ..Im calling bunk ! Everyone ive talked with thinks its a rediculous law. I believe they are going with the "good for the goose, good for the gander" ploy ..Supposedly they have 3200 members to thier organization BS !
3.2 maybe.
No excuse to sleep at the wheel ..but im just not buying anything they are saying period !
Have to agree with you 100% Russ ..those that you speak of are lower than a snakes belly in a wagon rutt :mad:

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Wake up Pantera. The issue is by no means dead. Things are getting hot in the lakes reagion. There is an organized effort, gaining momentum through a campaign of fear and misinformation. It should be taken seriously.

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Acres is the worst with a strong supporting cast by a few others. Odd how it's seems there's only about five on there who keep posting their nonsense particularly when other Posters on that Forum disagree with them in their own back yard. They were always on my case because I didn't live there. They could not understand the concept of my taking an interest because I have friends that live there and wanted to try to help them.

I have not been back to that site since I got tossed. What really burned me up was that I, first, got sent to the "penalty box, aka moderation, and then tossed for good for WAY MUCH LESS than what some of the "select few" were doing. I don't care if Don walked across the water to state he runs that Forum fairly, that's as big a crock of chit as I've ever heard. That SOB is as biased and displays arrogant favoritisim as anyone I've come across, something I would DEARLY love to point out to him in person. That whole bunch suffers the worst from the "I don't like it so you can't do it" attitude on the planet Earth. I admire you guys up there who can even tolerate their attitudes. I doubt I'd make it through a weekend without smacking the crap outta somebody. Those jerks make my blood boil.

And Don if you read this: KISS MY AZZ.......AZZHOLE......:blaster: :blaster:

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Oh Deere, what do you care that new boat won't do over 45 anyway. :evilb:

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OH IM AWAKE .. And ive seen this all before !
There misguided organization (which I wont mention) is such a crock there is no way they already have 3000+ supporters.
Ill say it again ..they believe the tail wags the dog .
Nothing wrong with supporting NHRBA, I recommend it.
But im not buying the "building momentum" thing.
Very few are in favor of a speed limit ..I live and work in the LR and talk with many boaters every day ..noone wants it :mad:

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You are correct that the majority of the boaters and business owners for that matter are not in favor. What is concerning is that the group is preying on those who do not understand the facts, and those people hold just as much weight when it comes to legislative pressure. I live in the LR as well, and currently the majority of the press in NH is following the group which is in favor. In the long run, this may work in our favor to bring about rebuttle. We just all need to stay on top of the issue, regardless of how many people we "think" there may be in support of the speed limit.

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Also its been tabled till 06

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Please still write a letter to a representative.

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Ouch Dean! The price just went up on that Gator. Boat is still sitting in the diveway. If this rain keeps up I should be able to launch it from there by the weekend. I will have to let you know if it can break 45.

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We ALL need to stay on top of this, even us "Flatlanders" much to the disgust of "Acres of Idiots" and "Bear Lover". Oh, I don't want to leave out "Fat Jackass".....:drink:

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Lets use the power of Oso and sign the petition in the other thread!!

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Didn't mean to start a similar thread

Petition

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Pretty strange ..when i click that link it opens this thread ??

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Changed

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If you boat up here or not you may want to someday so please Sign this petition!! these people forgot this is America!!! :eek:

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I'm on it. :bunny:

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I know of a hazelton rd in upton and stan lives there , this sounds like more fiction. :chimp:

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Hes pulling the same crap over at winnilakers.. Hes a knob :mad:

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Interesting, he tries to sneak in a link to his petition.

Guess he must think none of us can read :D

Can't even be honest in their petition - "Oppose Oppostition"

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It is too bad that these is the kind of individuals we are facing. Frank's games fit the mold for a group who is leading a fight based on misinformation, lack of substance. Exposing fools like him only help in undermining the credibility of his own crusade.

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And "Lake Winnie's Forums" certainly has it's "fools".

A bigger bunch of moronic idiots you will NEVER find, anywhere....:blaster:

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I think they want Higher taxes up there Don't think they have worked the equation through..Lets see Less speed on the lake will = less boats=less $in the local economy= Higher Taxes!!Where do they think the money for the local economy comes from in the summer Hint its not Blow boats or canoes :mad:

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That's why three forth's of the businesses close in the winter.But have no fear the blowboaters and kayakers will spend hundreds of dollars a weekend in gas, rent rooms and buy all kinds of groceries and of course the ever important booze :drink: :drink: :drink:

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Yes the docks at the Nazwa and other resturaunts are always SO full of the kayaks and sailboats...... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

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Faster you just caused yourself to loose all kinds of credibility with so many people. Before I did not agree with you but I tried to understand you. Now I realize that you are a liar and a zealot. You are so jaded that no one should listen or try and understand you. Your only way to try and win this debate is to LIE about it. Go crawl under a rock!!!!

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Go screw yourself you lying sob.

Stay the hell out of our Forum. Go back to your www.winnieliars.com.

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Formula Outlaw. www.winnilakers.com is fine their membership for the most part is fighting this legislation.

The same owner of that board is the same one that is running NHRBA. Think ya may have your sites mixed up.

To review www.winnilakers.com and www.nhrba.com GOOD!! :drink: :drink:

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On the other hand Winn Fabs :mad: (aka Winni Whiners)

If you have some time, go to their website and look at the mis-information they are putting out.

They quote the USCG, that excessive speed is one of the top causes of accidents. What they don't point out is that excessive speed is defined as a speed inappropriate for the conditions. That could be 10mph, that could be 100mph.

I'm involved in a number of boating safety organizations (vessel examiner, instructor, etc.). I wonder how many of these supposed boating saftey advocates are involved in promoting safe boating?

This kind of mis-information and the scare tatics they use really piss me off. Too bad they can't be honest about what their real agenda is.

I'm sure crusiers (why do you need a boat like that on a lake) will be next on the list (since I just bought one) :rolleyes:

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BTW, what happened to fasterthanthou's post that re-directed to his petition? I noticed it's gone.

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Steve,
What organizations are you involved with? Do your organizations oppose the speed limit bill?

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Do you mean the Stan that donated $50 to Winnfabs last week?

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LRSPS and ACBS. Both organizations are committed to boater education and safe boating. I spent both days last weekend doing VSCs and other training activities. Ditto for 2 or 3 more weekends this summer. I'm also involved in fund raising for the Livesaving Fund. Since you seem committed to safe boating, I'm sure you do similar work?

Bottom line is this, what is needed on this lake (which I've been boating on incident free for 42 years) are educated boaters who understand and obey rules, who are courteous and use common sense. Simple as that.

In terms of organizations' stances on HB162, I don't they will take a stance on behalf of their membership, leaving that up to each individual.

BTW - Who's Steve?

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Jon, in reality I was referring to Don's website, Winnipausaukee.com or whatever. That's the site I've ever spent time in. I realize the site "nhrba" is for the good of boating. Sorry about any confusion.

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Mike,
What was your reason for posting all of this personal information about another member? Seems only right that you should now tell where you live and give your phone number too. Or else please give me permission to do so.
Frank

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Another person who just pissed his money away, are they even registered with the state as an NPO? :crazy:

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Strange, but I've been talking to LRSPS and they say they are not opposed to HB162 at all. Some anger was expressed about the continuing attempts of the go-fast crowd to try to draw an association with them. And the officials there that I have discussed this with off the record are all saying that they are very much in support. In fact, several are Winnfabs members. They say that many of the performance boaters, while sorry to give up the freedom to open it up on occasion, are recognizing that the future of their pastime depends on making some sacrifices soon, and privately admitting that it is time to take control of things. Sounds like it is a very very small percentage of the go-fast crowd that does not recognize the need for some sensible limits, but that small percentage is pretending to speak for all. Perhaps if those few guys like you would not take such an uncompromizing position, we could restore some sanity to the lake AND save your sport. Do you really feel that you speak for ALL performance boaters? Seems pretty obvious that something has to give soon. Don't you think that the rest of the go-fasters on the lake are going to be pretty upset at the few of you if this bill passes becasue you guys made it an all or nothing decision? Perhaps there is still a chance to avoid having any rules imposed on one of the smaller lakes if you start to bend a bit now.

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