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Old 01-30-2013 | 11:10 AM
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Just read over on the sv29/illmor thread that the 29 is 3750 lbs. power for power and close on weight it looks like the Tuff is faster.
How do get that? OL said in an earlier test that boat was 4800lbs? maybe that was test weight with a 4-5 people aboard? Im not sure? but as said earlier with all of the geewiz
lay up technology it should be pretty light. so if its 3750 and the tuff is 3300 and they run virtually the same speeds with the same power how is the tuff a faster hull?. (nevermind its is 4650)

Has there ever been a Tuff I/O with anything other than a 525? which ran 95.5, There was talk of an Ilmore boat I didn't think it ever got built.

Only the OL 29 plug had a 525, I heard it ran 94-95mph. I have no idea what that one weighed? I know it was not the same construction as the production boats.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 11:36 AM
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I have been via the internet trying to get Mr. Weigl to build an Infused Tuff 28 with a canopy and a 565 and go racing against the OL. In my humble opinion I think that it would be unbeatable... But it sure is hard to convince somebody with the green to build a boat that has not been raced before when OL has proven it's abilities... Maybe if I hit the numbers.. lol.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by mitchie
I have been via the internet trying to get Mr. Weigl to build an Infused Tuff 28 with a canopy and a 565 and go racing against the OL. In my humble opinion I think that it would be unbeatable... But it sure is hard to convince somebody with the green to build a boat that has not been raced before when OL has proven it's abilities... Maybe if I hit the numbers.. lol.
I tend to agree with that! Especially with how important turning has become in our sport
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Old 01-30-2013 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by professor_speed
How do get that? OL said in an earlier test that boat was 4800lbs? maybe that was test weight with a 4-5 people aboard? Im not sure? but as said earlier with all of the geewiz
lay up technology it should be pretty light. so if its 3750 and the tuff is 3300 and they run virtually the same speeds with the same power how is the tuff a faster hull?. (nevermind its is 4650)

Has there ever been a Tuff I/O with anything other than a 525? which ran 95.5, There was talk of an Ilmore boat I didn't think it ever got built.

Only the OL 29 plug had a 525, I heard it ran 94-95mph. I have no idea what that one weighed? I know it was not the same construction as the production boats.
Actually the Snowy Mountain Brewery OL has a 525 and in race mode (a minimum of 4750 lbs at the end of the race) is certainly faster than 95.5
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Old 01-30-2013 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Bullhead
Actually the Snowy Mountain Brewery OL has a 525 and in race mode (a minimum of 4750 lbs at the end of the race) is certainly faster than 95.5
well if the 565 boat runs 99 with Fiore at the helm then either it's lighter than race minimum weight or that 525 ain't stock (although I'm sure the canopy aerodynamics add a tic or two. )
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Old 01-31-2013 | 05:09 AM
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@glassdave;


Agree for classic Ve or step Ve bottom.
But Tuff etc have pad kell and when they go really fast, they ride only on this pad. This is why I do not understand why it is 22 degree faster than 24 degree bottom if both have excelent designed pad kell.
At 24 degree it is less chance that water will spray from pad on bottom and probably must go faster than "flatt" 22 degree bottom. O.k., stability etc, but this are other questions.


Sorry for off topic from this excelent tread.

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Old 04-02-2013 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by sinus
@glassdave;


Agree for classic Ve or step Ve bottom.
But Tuff etc have pad kell and when they go really fast, they ride only on this pad. This is why I do not understand why it is 22 degree faster than 24 degree bottom if both have excelent designed pad kell.
At 24 degree it is less chance that water will spray from pad on bottom and probably must go faster than "flatt" 22 degree bottom. O.k., stability etc, but this are other questions.


Sorry for off topic from this excelent tread.
The 22* will pack air better that helps lift the boat out of the water just like a cat.
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Old 04-02-2013 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by T2x
The Eltro was no pig either (it was the basis for our 21 Challengers and Shadows)
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....the "basis" you mean a splash???

Rich, say it ain't so!
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Old 04-02-2013 | 01:58 PM
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On post 1 of the time line he forgot in 1986 Falco recordered #1 hit Rock me Amadeus you 80's guy will get that!! Just thought I'd mix it up some funny chit though!!!
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Old 04-02-2013 | 02:07 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMuDtfxAIKk Wrong on the dates but listen you'll know!! Sorry to crash the thread
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