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Old 01-26-2013 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by shaun harrington
I think you should check your info, where did you hear that they were running 80. This is not correct. I know this is off the original subject, personally I am a non step boater , I am just sick of people slamming ol because they are in my opinion the top manufacturer at present!
sorry 75mph when it rolled but he is willing to turn the damn thing at 90mph
http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...l-is-fine.html
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Old 01-26-2013 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by professor_speed
sorry 75mph when it rolled but he is willing to turn the damn thing at 90mph
http://speedonthewater.com/in-the-ne...l-is-fine.html
I think you we're the recipient of my misplaced anger .most of what you said I do not refute. What I do take exception to is a reference , not made by you, about inappropriateness by Mike Fiore and ol. Sorry for the confusion!
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Old 01-26-2013 | 10:24 PM
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I personally LOVE Outerlimits and would Enjoy to own one. Might even buy one someday if I don't find a Skater first. They are one of the best companies out there.

I also love Non Step boats and feel that if a company like OL put the time and effort into building a Non Step boat it would be Bad Azz. But why would they want to undo all the marketing that has been done by many in the industry.

Truth is Marketing sells in america, not just product. Look at monster energy drink! Its nasty, does nothing but hurt your body, and people love the Chit!

There also is nothing wrong with being skeptical about a OL or a DCB rollover. These are supposed to be some of the best boats on the water.

Yes the video of the Snowy Mountain Brewery is great.

We all have to agree that its nice to read Informative information from T2x and not just "marketing" or personal opinion. Wish there was more good info like this.
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Old 01-27-2013 | 01:46 AM
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Originally Posted by professor_speed
Tuff 28 22.5 degree dead rise runs 95 mph with a 525 weighs about 3500 lbs. so it should run 98-100 with a 565, and 101-102 with a 600.

Outerlimits 29 21 degree dead rise on the last step runs 98-99 with a 565 and 101 with 600 but weights 4800lbs. (there is plenty video of this boat running hard and does not seem to be in any danger of a spin out.)

Theses two boats are probably the fastest v bottoms at this length. (or even most cats, save for maybe the redline 26 or nordic 27, but then again not to many single I/O cats that are around this length) How is it that the OL can weigh 1300lbs more and still run virtually the same speeds? I know that they threw every trick in the book, (lower that 24 degree dead rise, pad, multiple steps) But the tuff has two of those three and way less weight to lug around.

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I do not understand why it is 22,5 degree dead rise on Tuff faster than 24 degree? This boat ride on pad kell and not on Ve part of bottom.


What about Progression, is it fast too?
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Old 01-27-2013 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by sinus
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I do not understand why it is 22,5 degree dead rise on Tuff faster than 24 degree? This boat ride on pad kell and not on Ve part of bottom.


What about Progression, is it fast too?
Progressions are fast and extremely well made.
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Old 01-28-2013 | 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by sinus
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I do not understand why it is 22,5 degree dead rise on Tuff faster than 24 degree? This boat ride on pad kell and not on Ve part of bottom.


What about Progression, is it fast too?
What is the published weight of a Outerlimits 29, as I find it hard to believe that a state of the art mfg, has a boat that weights what a 28 Pantera weights, add that the race boat must weight 4000 lbs. what speeds will it run?
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Old 01-30-2013 | 10:17 AM
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Just read over on the sv29/illmor thread that the 29 is 3750 lbs. power for power and close on weight it looks like the Tuff is faster.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by sinus
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I do not understand why it is 22,5 degree dead rise on Tuff faster than 24 degree? This boat ride on pad kell and not on Ve part of bottom.


What about Progression, is it fast too?
the more shallow the deadrise the more boat out of the water. Deeper V's (24+) will cut deeper in the water and also run rough water better then flatter more shallow V of 22.5 and lower. There is a trade off though, it all depends on what you want it for.
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Old 01-30-2013 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by WildThing47
When was the last time Velocity won a world championship?
With the decline in offshore powerboat racing nowadays is that even relevant?

The same 30' hull Steve built that was first to break the 100 mph barrier in 1981, is still being produced today...and still performs extremely well.

Their new 39' with staggered 565's is knocking on the door of 100 (within 2/10ths), and with some more tweaking feel it will get there.

Originally Posted by T2X
The closest hull design to that in the offshore arena today is the velocity and steve stepp raced allisons prior to starting that company.
Funny you say that...I always tell people my Velocity is just an overgrown Allison...
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Old 01-30-2013 | 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by RBT
Just read over on the sv29/illmor thread that the 29 is 3750 lbs. power for power and close on weight it looks like the Tuff is faster.
The SV29 Ilmor boat will weigh around 4650 lbs once completed and rigged. It does not weigh 3750 lbs as posted.

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