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Old 01-25-2013 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
shouldn't have to rely on tab indicators. Especially if fiore was driving, with his experience.
exactly..........................................
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Old 01-25-2013 | 07:49 PM
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Great post throughout the years. Had to add my .02 cents. Love my old school deep vee ride. Manta 28. World Champions 1981,82,88,90,92,93.
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Old 01-25-2013 | 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thirdchildhood
Shouldn't have to rely on tab indicators. Especially if Fiore was driving, with his experience.
I agree!

But Fiore/OL just paid off the manufacture and/or threatened to stop orders if they do not let them put blame on the tab indicators!

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Old 01-26-2013 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by offshorexcursion
I agree!

But Fiore/OL just paid off the manufacture and/or threatened to stop orders if they do not let them put blame on the tab indicators!

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Right again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-26-2013 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by offshorexcursion
I agree!

But Fiore/OL just paid off the manufacture and/or threatened to stop orders if they do not let them put blame on the tab indicators!

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Do you think that just maybe the indicator was at fault? like someone else said " with mike fiores experience " how many people look at their indicators, believe them, and initiate a turn ? I would say probably all of us do ! If ther is any doubt about how stable the boat is , just review the snowy boat at Key west!
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Old 01-26-2013 | 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by shaun harrington
Do you think that just maybe the indicator was at fault? like someone else said " with mike fiores experience " how many people look at their indicators, believe them, and initiate a turn ? I would say probably all of us do ! If ther is any doubt about how stable the boat is , just review the snowy boat at Key west!
For record I don't think Fiore ever said it was an indicator, He just said it was an equipment problem and that it was not a problem with hull. Also how many of us have ever run 80+ mph and throw the boat into a hard 90 degree turn? I don't . Also look at the way the tabs are rigged, parallel to water rather than at the same angle as the hull. when they are at the angle of the hull they are more forgiving if they are in the wrong position. When they are flat, and large in relation to the hull, they cannot be down at the wrong time. If they are they are they can dip into the water in a turn, now you have a rudder in the water.

I'm sure someone will say why rig it that way then? Probably cause its a little faster and when used right they can be more responsive. Is it worth trade off? To OL it must be.

The OL 29 roll has been beat to death in other threads and this is not really the right thread to talk about it. Can anyone answer my original question? how can the OL run as fast as a boat that is 30% lighter?
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Old 01-26-2013 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by offshorexcursion
I agree!

But Fiore/OL just paid off the manufacture and/or threatened to stop orders if they do not let them put blame on the tab indicators!

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I'm sure he must paid his competition to complain about the same trim indicators?, and must Have paid Young performance to complain about them to?
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Old 01-26-2013 | 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by professor_speed
For record I don't think Fiore ever said it was an indicator, He just said it was an equipment problem and that it was not a problem with hull. Also how many of us have ever run 80+ mph and throw the boat into a hard 90 degree turn? I don't . Also look at the way the tabs are rigged, parallel to water rather than at the same angle as the hull. when they are at the angle of the hull they are more forgiving if they are in the wrong position. When they are flat, and large in relation to the hull, they cannot be down at the wrong time. If they are they are they can dip into the water in a turn, now you have a rudder in the water.

I'm sure someone will say why rig it that way then? Probably cause its a little faster and when used right they can be more responsive. Is it worth trade off? To OL it must be.

The OL 29 roll has been beat to death in other threads and this is not really the right thread to talk about it. Can anyone answer my original question? how can the OL run as fast as a boat that is 30% lighter?
I think you should check your info, where did you hear that they were running 80. This is not correct. I know this is off the original subject, personally I am a non step boater , I am just sick of people slamming ol because they are in my opinion the top manufacturer at present!
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Old 01-26-2013 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by offshorexcursion
I agree!

But Fiore/OL just paid off the manufacture and/or threatened to stop orders if they do not let them put blame on the tab indicators!

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I think this is a very unfair statement, I am not a lawyer but this sounds slanderous to me . Maybe you have " inside information " you want to share!
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Old 01-26-2013 | 02:39 PM
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You guys are right; The OL topic has been discussed and this is not a thread to derail.... IMO.....
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