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Old 07-18-2006, 10:11 PM
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i used to love pb the old ones 1977 tro 1985 . some body needs to go back to real boat test not this mess they have now $$$$$$ . tell jerry to go look what a real one looks like. the old ones when his father was the head of it . i prey h20 will blow all others away .
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:36 PM
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Powerboat Mag would be wise to follow the trend of the classic restoration thing. It's what a lot of us can afford and like to work on and I'll bet the parts guys (Trick, Eddie, Rex, Livorsi, Etc. {PBM Advertisers}) sell a lot more parts to us than to the guy that just bought a 2007 Cig.
The coverage on your boat is great but it could be more in depth.
Teague on Tech is the first thing I read.
New Products is second.
I think more boating destinations around the country and maybe highlight a local boat and the owner, have him show PB the local hot spots and why they like it there. I'm sure area businesses would love to advertise in that issue in hopes to draw visitors from other areas. I'll cover FL if you want.
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I`ve been a subscriber of PB for some time, even before I had a "real" boat. I`ve really been enjoying the series on the Cig updates, as I plan many upgrades to my 20 year old Sutphen. I just wish the articles were a little more in depth. I plan on upgrading my shifters / throttles soon and this story really did nothing for me. Can we be more detailed in our descriptions of technical items ?
I like seeing the high-end mega $$$ boats, just maybe a few less each issue. Replace them with more affordable boats.
Let`s keep it a BOAT magazine. If I need a review on a tow vehicle, I`ll read a truck magazine.
Boating destinations, great idea !
I think the boat reviews are OK as they are. Somebody has to pay the editors salaries.
Expanded coverage of new products !
Race coverage - good
Poker Run coverage - better !
That`s all I can think of for now. Maybe more later...
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I'd like to see more boats people can afford $60-200K range. East and West coast makes. Loose the jet, fishing, and cruiser boats. Technical articles on enhancing performance, new gizmos (that would be useful), and maintenance. Start with an item or items that need to be done every season with pics. Have this article put in each issue til you've covered everything a boat needs checked/changed every season. Upgrades like AC, installing enclosed cooling, trim tabs/indicators, hydraulic steering, exhaust dry/wet, etc. Lots of pics and definately include women in bikinis. Also, how bout a section on party spots (like best beach, bay, river, canyon).

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Fred, great idea's. Some have already been brought up so you are not alone in your thinking.

Dave, I love the idea of highlighting a local boat/owner/destination. I've actually already recommended this. We'll see how it goes.

Fountainfan, the testing procedures are being reviewed. Might not be a bad idea to learn from the past. However, Jerry no longer owns PBM. It was sold last year to a new parent company.

Johnny, they were testing the waters, so to speak, with the article on re-doing my boat. They got fairly positive feedback. Mostly, "Hey, do my boat!" type of feedback. I think when the information is passed along that people are actually interested in those types of articles for reading purposes, there will be a chance of having them return. And thus, giving everyone a chance!

tblrklakemo, dude, that's funny! I don't think they want to go the bouncing boobies route...Not that there's anything wrong with that!

Bouyhunter, they are trying to meet a vast market that spreads from coast to coast and covers a lot of issues. If you notice the magazine changes in 'hot topics' every few years. I mean jez, they used to test PWC's!!

Stormrider, it's been brought to their attention to do a variation of this. Maybe not so simple as a spotlight on someones boat. Possibly a little more in-depth. I personally like the idea, we'll see.

Nort, they wont cover Bingo. I know you're getting old and bought a sunseeker and all, but come on bro.

rouxsterre, the road and track testing format is interesting. Though may not be absolutely feasible. Like I said, they are looking into revamping testings...stay tuned.
On the waterway restrictions, they have already put up on their website an area that is dedicated to covering these types of topics.

fastfun2, I would not worry. They will continue to test various styles of boats in an attempt to reach a variety of subscribers/readers. Maybe a certain type more than others but the variety will be there.

Chuck, great idea. I think this is an area that keeps surfacing as peaking interest.

Teambaja, Bob is not the only one on the covers. However, he is their main tester, there are two other test drivers, John Tomlinson and Steve David. You'll see them pop up on covers time to time. You'll also see Vicki, Gregg, Jeff, Jason and a few others on there.

Tempest, it's being looked into on a variation of profiling older boats. Either through upgrade style or another format.

Sharkey, love ya bro. H2O is supposedly going to concentrate mainly on the racing circuit. Nothing but best wishes to them.

Thanks again for all the input, it is greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:16 AM
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This is a great thread and I thought I would add my two cents worth from a publishers standpoint.

There are some great magazines out there and each has its own niche in the industry. Powerboat has been around for a long long time and although it may have lost some of its coverage of racing it still is the leading powerboat magazine in the United States. Extreme Boats magazine is also a great publication and I admire what Casey and Ron & Co are doing with it. Hotboat magazine has some great content but unfortunately its published by a porno publisher so the quality isnt there, which is a shame because if it was on a better quality stock then it would look great. Poker Runs America is also a quality publication and its niche market is that of Poker runs primarily as I assume thats what it was started for, to cover their events.

No matter how hard you try you will never please all readers all of the time. I have two helicopter industry trade magazines which are the largest in their respective marketplaces and we have people for and against what we do all the time.

Heli Ops - www.heliopsmag.com

HeliTac - www.helitacmag.com

Our newest magazine that Sharkey refers to is going to bring readers coverage of all forms of powerboat racing and high performance powerboating from all corners of the globe. Whereas Powerboat, Extreme Boats etc cover mainly the United States we have features covering Offshore, Circuit Racing, Hydroplanes, Poker Runs, Drag Boats and Jetsprinting from such places as Qatar, Australia, New Zealand, South Africa, Spain, UAE, Norway, Canada, United Kingdom, Italy as well as the United States.

Are we direct competitors to the other magazines - Not At All. Are they direct competitors to each other - Not At All. Or at least as I see it they arent. We all cover different parts of this amazing industry.

So bottom line is I dont think you will ever find a single magazine that has everything you want. You will always have to source out one, maybe two or even three magazines that fill your need for your interests.

Someone made a comment that magazines are driven by the advertising dollar and that dictates whats inside the mag. Sorry but have to disagree with that 110% and I think Greg and Casey would agree. Advertisers advertise in a magazine because they see the merits of it, not because someone is going to write some advetorial on their product. I have the outlook that if I produce a great magazine with great stories and great photography that people buy or subscribe to, then advertisers will want to be a part of it because they know we get to their target audience. If an advertiser just wants to advertise around a specific story then that story loses its credibility along with the magazines credibility.

Anyway these are just my comments. Hope it helps.

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Ned, great post. Can't wait to see your magazine. I couldn't agree with you more in the fact that all the magazines in one way or another have their own little niche's. A monopoly is not a good thing. Bottom line, all the different mags keep things interesting. A little competition is good for business.

Like with any business. PBM would like to better itself and learn from it's readers. Move forward with new and fresh ideas. It can be tough to stay fresh after 30 years in publication but they strive for it.

Best of luck with the new adventure. I'll be looking for the first issue.
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It would be nice if they told you the bad things about the boats, yep this boat is scary when it get past 80 mph and how many awards can they come up with? that was just crazy, here is the best boat with a blue stripe and 500 watt stereo.
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Old 07-19-2006, 12:53 AM
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Ned, sign me up for a subscription.

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I did have one article about a boat that scared the chit out of me at 115, but it never got printed. Nice boat, just a little too much power for the size.
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Old 07-19-2006, 10:24 AM
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Oh yeah - another thing about PBM - how about re-designing your t-shirt? I got the thing for re-subscribing and it says "Powerboat" on the back and "Powerboat" on the breast. No graphics, no boat pics.

Here's a magazine that probably has a photo library of some of the best offshore powerboat pics around and the t-shirt's got NOTHING on it. I found that kind of funny for some reason.
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