Tunnel Ram Engines
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I don't see that marine NA engines have hit a power plateau. The NA stuff is just getting better...
I can get 1000HP from a 2 valve 800CI engine with kitten like manners. Why bother with the complexity?
My "relatively" cheap new 588 makes 800Ft LB,
BUPS new 665 will make 900/900...
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I can get 1000HP from a 2 valve 800CI engine with kitten like manners. Why bother with the complexity?
My "relatively" cheap new 588 makes 800Ft LB,
BUPS new 665 will make 900/900...
UD
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Here is the mill.
Its in a couple threads - The under 25 thread
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...hem-up-64.html
and this thread.
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/l...upgrade-2.html
Ought to be a riot- have to button up the interior a bit and do a bit more work- I'm "jonesing" to go stand on it.
Boat went 90 with a 500HP small block and was grandma level easy to drive- this should wake it up it a bit.
UD

Last edited by Uncle Dave; 10-31-2016 at 06:20 PM.
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Thanks Mike! Its a fun little machine.
Next time you make it to Cali look me up and Ill make an excuse to take an afternoon off and well go for a spin.
Toward the end of the clip you can hear how quick it revs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRPJkpmB7ns
UD
Next time you make it to Cali look me up and Ill make an excuse to take an afternoon off and well go for a spin.
Toward the end of the clip you can hear how quick it revs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRPJkpmB7ns
UD
Last edited by Uncle Dave; 10-31-2016 at 07:34 PM.
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The 4v heads breathe way better at partial lift than two valve. The valves weigh about half as much on a 4v due to the head of the valve being smaller and the shaft is just a short nub to hold the retainers. Prob about 40% of the spring pressure id bet you get three times and as many hours or more before you have to check on em. Easy to do a valve adjustment on a shim over bucket 4v.
My shaffiroff racing 540 makes 804 ponies @ 6500.
Making a 1000 na hp single dom shouldnt be hard if you go big cubes.
i am talking 4v to be able to make that big hp and have half the maint and twice or three times the engine lifespan. If you bult that u would sell thousands to the perf crowd. Cast a hardin log style ex manifold and intake and sold the package deal. A cnc machine running 24/7 and cohld sell as quick as you mAde em if it was a bolt on package deal.
Run a tunnel ram on it. If your going on the dyno i wouldnt think setting up a tunnel ram would not be to difficult
My shaffiroff racing 540 makes 804 ponies @ 6500.
Making a 1000 na hp single dom shouldnt be hard if you go big cubes.
i am talking 4v to be able to make that big hp and have half the maint and twice or three times the engine lifespan. If you bult that u would sell thousands to the perf crowd. Cast a hardin log style ex manifold and intake and sold the package deal. A cnc machine running 24/7 and cohld sell as quick as you mAde em if it was a bolt on package deal.
Run a tunnel ram on it. If your going on the dyno i wouldnt think setting up a tunnel ram would not be to difficult
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Agree on partial lift flow superiority and lightness. There is a valid reason why clean sheet engine designs almost always dohc 4 V. Agreed on shim over being a breeze - until/unless an over rev spits it out.
I think for it to work like the brochure the scheme needs a true DOHC vs a cam in block retrofit which is loaded with compromise. Agree if you could get it to work and make an affordable package you could keep a CNC machine running 24/7.
Love shaffiroffs car stuff, never seen his boat mills, but heard he's done them. Do you have a thread elsewhere on your mill. Dont want to side track this one any more than I have, but would love to see the mill.
Tunnel rams, never seen one that didnt give up low end.
All the Tunnel ram dyno runs I have seen all start out at like 3500 RPM or more usually 4K.
(thats usually code for someone to pull one out at 2800)
UD
I think for it to work like the brochure the scheme needs a true DOHC vs a cam in block retrofit which is loaded with compromise. Agree if you could get it to work and make an affordable package you could keep a CNC machine running 24/7.
Love shaffiroffs car stuff, never seen his boat mills, but heard he's done them. Do you have a thread elsewhere on your mill. Dont want to side track this one any more than I have, but would love to see the mill.
Tunnel rams, never seen one that didnt give up low end.
All the Tunnel ram dyno runs I have seen all start out at like 3500 RPM or more usually 4K.
(thats usually code for someone to pull one out at 2800)
UD
Last edited by Uncle Dave; 11-01-2016 at 10:39 AM.
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Well, it became true overnight. LOL.
Here you go:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...te-engine.html
Here you go:
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/g...te-engine.html
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Drag race guys on yellowbullet are swearing by have their particular valvetrain setups run on a spintron. They are sending them to 3v for testing and end up running much lighter spring pressures. For multiple seasons some are claiming. Worth looking into for $1500.
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Agree on partial lift flow superiority and lightness. There is a valid reason why clean sheet engine designs almost always dohc 4 V. Agreed on shim over being a breeze - until/unless an over rev spits it out.
I think for it to work like the brochure the scheme needs a true DOHC vs a cam in block retrofit which is loaded with compromise. Agree if you could get it to work and make an affordable package you could keep a CNC machine running 24/7.
Love shaffiroffs car stuff, never seen his boat mills, but heard he's done them. Do you have a thread elsewhere on your mill. Dont want to side track this one any more than I have, but would love to see the mill.
Tunnel rams, never seen one that didnt give up low end.
All the Tunnel ram dyno runs I have seen all start out at like 3500 RPM or more usually 4K.
(thats usually code for someone to pull one out at 2800)
UD
I think for it to work like the brochure the scheme needs a true DOHC vs a cam in block retrofit which is loaded with compromise. Agree if you could get it to work and make an affordable package you could keep a CNC machine running 24/7.
Love shaffiroffs car stuff, never seen his boat mills, but heard he's done them. Do you have a thread elsewhere on your mill. Dont want to side track this one any more than I have, but would love to see the mill.
Tunnel rams, never seen one that didnt give up low end.
All the Tunnel ram dyno runs I have seen all start out at like 3500 RPM or more usually 4K.
(thats usually code for someone to pull one out at 2800)
UD
what if u pulled your cam installed another with just drive gear for the oil pump and a drive gear up front to drive a vertical shaft to turn the cams that you made a support cor that anchored in the lifter bores.
Hemi head x flow for flame propigation a double 4 bbl moderate height manifold crank trigger ign to keep the hheads as clean a possible? The manifold could have equal spacing and be straight ports due to not having pushrods.
My shaffiroff 540 was an unclaimed eng. Guy paid 50% deposit and vanished. I paid 13k dragon slayer crabk manly rods full cnc pro 1 heads msd dist. Top of the line everything incl 1050 dominator


