They both have to be working though

I have to say Velocity.

I'm biased though

Also, probably one of the most fun boats to drive.

Velocity's are pad bottoms and they do get lite. I believe you were comparing them to the Active Thunders that are true 24 degree deep V's and that was the question that was asked. As said earlier enough H.P. will make anything fast

From the Velocity website:

"In 1981, two very significant events in Steve’s life occurred and the history of offshore boating was changed forever. In that year, Steve and Gene were the first men to break the 100 mph barrier in a V-bottom boat at the annual kilo trials with a 30-foot Velocity."

With all things equal, hp, weight, etc. the pad-V bottom will always be faster than a straigt V.

In the rear of your boat at the centerline(keel) there is a 12-14 inch wide "pushdown area" kinda lika a strake but wider. Often this "pad" isn't a 24 degree angle - it's less. In theory, a flat bottom would be the fastestest- but the ride would be rough. The traditional "offshore" bottom angle (in the rear view -measured from a horiziontal flat) is 24 degrees. Sonic and Sutphen are sharper at 25 or 26 degrees. I think Fountains are 22 degrees - but the pad would be less - let's say 15 degrees from horizontal. Some boats have a small 0 degree flat that terminates at about 25 percent of the hull length. In the top view these look like a triangle , with the point "pointing" to the bow, and thus the name "delta pad". For example the 24 Baja has this delta pad that is totally horizontal in the rear view.

Most "pads" blend in with the rest of the bottom as they approach the bow, and are not visable from a front view.

And I'm GUESSING that the Velocity or Older Non Step Fountains would be the "fastest" non step hull - because they are padded.

And....fastest means straight line and relatively calm water.

I'd really like to take a Sutphen for a ride as I therize it would be a nice riding and handling hull- same for the sonic's - because of the sharper v and relatively long "flat" on the sutphen.

But I'm only therozing.

I HAVE BEEN IN A FEW SUTPHENS THEY RIDE THE BEST, THE NEW 32 WITH 825HP SINGLE WILL RUN 85MPH IN ANYTHING, BEEN IN 5 TO 6 OFF THE CAPE DURING THE CANCELED 04 RACE WE ONLY RAN 75 BECAUSE WE HAD A 14YR OLD GIRL ON BOARD AND SUTPHEN 30 HAD HIS KID ON HIS. WE FOR SURE COULD OF GONE WFO WITHOUT THEM. NO BANGING EVERYONE WAS STANDING EXCEPT FOR ME WITH MY BAD KNEES I SAT AND I HAVE A BAD BACK TO IT WAS LIKE RUNNING A CLASS 2 PRO TRUCK WITH 800HPS AND THE 35 WITH CUSTOM 725S RUN OVER A 100,THESE BOATS YOU CAN RUN WITH A FINGER TIP NOT LIKE A VILOCITY BOTH HANDS ON THE WHEEL

Runs 50 MPH on one... How does your Fountain do on one mill?

I don't wanna get into this .... but don't forget WICKEDWON.

In open water of any kind your gonna have a hard time gettin around that one with a straight V bottom "offshore" boat .

What about Papaches 41 with 1500's. If I remember it was 120+ he said.