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FeverMike 07-12-2007 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by marylandmark (Post 2194653)
Ok that is a better way to say it than I did- not enough "bling" would be a better way for me to say it.

Yeah I guess so too. The guys over on thehulltruth or Florida fishing forum do not consider the 35 Marlago a real fishing boat. They are more into Contender, SeaVee, Yellowfin, Fountain, Regulator, Jupiter, Panga, Sailfish, Scout, Grady White, Whaler, Everglades, Hydra-Sports, Pursuit and others like these. Fighting Lady Yellow, or Canyon Runner Blue is about it for graphics and it's all about the ride, how much the boat rocks at anchor, live well size and fish storage lockers. They do not even consider Concept due to not having a self bailing boat, narrow beam. They call Concept a go fast boat...which is cool too. Although I fished and caught plenty of Grouper and Shark on my 36 self bailing turned out to be a must for me for outside storage and fishing.

see ya, Mike

TopSpin80 07-12-2007 11:18 AM

what about the donzi 35 zf? I may be looking at one with my dad, but he thinks the 30 zf being a much smaller boat will have it's advantages. We will mostly be just crusing the bay and we trailer from about 5-10 miles. resturant hoppins some poker runs, and a little fishing, maybe a tournament if we get a group of buddies together and go out fishing 3-4 times a year.

I would like to tow the boat cross country from texas to washington state and hit the big lake between here and there.

Ernie

Stormrider 07-12-2007 12:13 PM

Mike, why is the self bailing so important?
I understand why it's good to have.
But 90%+ of the boats owned by guys on this site are not self bailing.

Jassman 07-12-2007 12:48 PM


Originally Posted by Stormrider (Post 2195604)
Mike, why is the self bailing so important?
I understand why it's good to have.
But 90%+ of the boats owned by guys on this site are not self bailing.

most of the time these boats are on lifts, no covers, so when it rains it is easier to have the water drain by itself without going to the bilge to use the pump. These hulls being so open tend to take on more water in a rougher sea. Also easier to hose out all the fish blood and jiz right out the back.

Jassman 07-12-2007 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by marylandmark (Post 2195661)
In general a open bow or CC boat has much more area to collect water. 90% of the boats on this site have closed decks so they don't collect nearly the water of a open/CC boat.

Self bailing- I didn't get it on my boat but to do it would cost roughly $500- not a biggie...

You just need to get a real CC, next time:D

Stormrider 07-12-2007 01:27 PM

So its an option. $500 not a biggie is right.
So i'm guessing the deck(cockpit sole) is above waterline.

Which boats is this not an option on or not available on that we know of?

THE BULL 07-12-2007 07:16 PM

You just missed a great deal from Adrenaline, right up your alley. They build an awesome 31ss that runs in the high 60s with twin 250s and a 38 that runs mid 70s with triple 250s. www.adrenalinepowerboats.com I think fastboats.com just sold the 31. See the classifieds.

tinydancer 07-12-2007 07:25 PM

I have the answer just click the link
http://concepttrader.com/shop/showpr...oduct=66&cat=7

markt111 07-13-2007 06:24 AM

so did you buy anything yet? still looking?

Donzi38ZR 07-13-2007 12:04 PM


Originally Posted by FeverMike (Post 2190397)
Does anyone know of a recent test report on the Donzi 35 ZFX with twin 275 verado's?

There's a couple of articles and test on the 38 ZFX with trip 275 on the Donzi website from boat BOATING mag, and POWERBOAT mag, but no 35 ZFX yet....

http://www.donzimarine.com/
ZF Tab>38ZFX>Specifications and information>Articles & Reviews

Latitude Powerboats 07-13-2007 03:52 PM

Have you found a boat yet? May I suggest a website www.latitudepowerboats.com. I know the name does not sound familiar but the company has a good pedigree and reputation.
We started building a 22 and a 33 back in 1995 as Navigator Powerboats.
In 1998 we went in to contract with Tom Mason to build all the boats (glass) for Midnight Express including over 40 boats for Homeland Security.
In 2006 we were in the process of taking the company public and we had to register trademark our company name, needless to say Navigator Yachts out of Seattle Washington did not allow us to use the name, so we came up with a new name Latitude Powerboats Symbol (LTDI)
We build a great boat, 100% handlaid (no chopper gun near), not a single once of wood, Vinyl Lester resin, vacuum bag all the core 1" 12 pound density Mantex stringer system, 3" 36pound density for the transom, hull and deck bonded 360*, floor bonded to stringers and bulkhead.
This boat can not, will not, come apart, (unless you cut it with a chainsaw).
Guarantee it's the dryest boat in the market.
We can rigg them with Merc's or e-tec's you choose.:cool: :cool:

Jassman 07-13-2007 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by Latitude Powerboats (Post 2196982)
Have you found a boat yet? May I suggest a website www.latitudepowerboats.com. I know the name does not sound familiar but the company has a good pedigree and reputation.
We started building a 22 and a 33 back in 1995 as Navigator Powerboats.
In 1998 we went in to contract with Tom Mason to build all the boats (glass) for Midnight Express including over 40 boats for Homeland Security.
In 2006 we were in the process of taking the company public and we had to register trademark our company name, needless to say Navigator Yachts out of Seattle Washington did not allow us to use the name, so we came up with a new name Latitude Powerboats Symbol (LTDI)
We build a great boat, 100% handlaid (no chopper gun near), not a single once of wood, Vinyl Lester resin, vacuum bag all the core 1" 12 pound density Mantex stringer system, 3" 36pound density for the transom, hull and deck bonded 360*, floor bonded to stringers and bulkhead.
This boat can not, will not, come apart, (unless you cut it with a chainsaw).
Guarantee it's the dryest boat in the market.
We can rigg them with Merc's or e-tec's you choose.:cool: :cool:

Do U still have the 22 CC mold, Thanks Jeff

FeverMike 07-13-2007 05:43 PM


Originally Posted by TopSpin80 (Post 2195528)
what about the donzi 35 zf? I may be looking at one with my dad, but he thinks the 30 zf being a much smaller boat will have it's advantages. We will mostly be just crusing the bay and we trailer from about 5-10 miles. resturant hoppins some poker runs, and a little fishing, maybe a tournament if we get a group of buddies together and go out fishing 3-4 times a year.

I would like to tow the boat cross country from texas to washington state and hit the big lake between here and there.

Ernie

I'm going over to Donzi soon and the Sarasota dealer to look at the 35 ZFC and ZFX boats. Unfortuanly I learned they do not get much better fuel mileage than my bigger and heavier triple engine 38 Fountain. The more and more I look at other boats the more and more I remember why I am so impressed with the performance and solid build of my Fountain 38TE. It is for sale so we will see what happens.

Bryan Rose 07-13-2007 05:55 PM

Well


Thought I had found a boat.......2002 29 ZFC with a pair of 225 Optimax's......Nice and clean low hour boat priced right and was ready to write a check if it all checked out............Boat is now in litigation between Owner-Broker-New owner....it appears the owner pulled the boat from the broker and sold it out from underhim..........the day before I called

BUMMER

Still looking:mad:

Latitude Powerboats 07-13-2007 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2197080)
Do U still have the 22 CC mold, Thanks Jeff

No we do not, we cerrently build a 28' and a 35' which is the former Powerplay.

tinydancer 07-13-2007 10:21 PM

BRYAN... how about a 30 Concept with 250 Verado's?

Jassman 07-14-2007 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by Latitude Powerboats (Post 2197201)
No we do not, we cerrently build a 28' and a 35' which is the former Powerplay.


Could you pm me a price on a basic fishing CC with options. Thanks Jeff Jassby

Latitude Powerboats 07-14-2007 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2197379)
Could you pm me a price on a basic fishing CC with options. Thanks Jeff Jassby

Jeff, price on a 28 or a 35. thx

Jassman 07-14-2007 11:22 AM


Originally Posted by Latitude Powerboats (Post 2197472)
Jeff, price on a 28 or a 35. thx

28 please. Im looking for something basic, but extremely well built, in-between use of cruising with friends, and fishing with the fisherman of the family, my wife.:D I am looking at ..20-24' thats why I asked about the 22'. Thanks Jeff

TSPM 07-14-2007 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2197525)
28 please. Im looking for something basic, but extremely well built, in-between use of cruising with friends, and fishing with the fisherman of the family, my wife.:D I am looking at ..20-24' thats why I asked about the 22'. Thanks Jeff

I just posted these today for Sick Nordic.....here is the thread link with pics :drink:

Carrera Sport Fish 30 CC / 250 Merc Racing Optimax... 70 + MPH

They Make a 23,27,30,32,36

OSO LINK

LEOPAJM 07-16-2007 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2197525)
28 please. Im looking for something basic, but extremely well built, in-between use of cruising with friends, and fishing with the fisherman of the family, my wife.:D I am looking at ..20-24' thats why I asked about the 22'. Thanks Jeff


Jeff .... check out the 24 Spectre !

Jassman 07-16-2007 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by LEOPAJM (Post 2199044)
Jeff .... check out the 24 Spectre !


Ive looked at the Concept....., Ive also checked out Carrara's, but their larger models not smaller. I havent had the opportunity to check out Spectre's 24 or Lattitudes 28. I will be ready to buy once I get my Ins. check, and demo's are also ok. Jeff

Here is another nice CC
http://www.boattest.com/boats/boat_video.aspx?ID=1108

FeverMike 07-16-2007 09:39 PM

Jassman, I have looked over the 24 Spectre real hard and that is a very nice little boat. The fit finish gel mold work and rigging is as nice as any Spectre. Plus the bracket is built in so no b-bracket hanging off the back to worry about and the Spectre is self bailing where most of these other cc performance style boats are not.

FeverMike 07-17-2007 10:52 AM


Originally Posted by marylandmark (Post 2200510)
I am a fan of the b-bracket. It makes the cockpit more functional IMHO with the motors set back like that.

A built in bracket like my Fountain and all the other boats thus far mentioned here, Carrera, Spectre, Donzi and so forth have built in brackets and I have found less shake and bouncing of the engines, more structurally sound, no emptying of water and no re-caulking. A built in bracket that is part of the core of the boat does not take up any room in the cockpit area and the engines are still set back. These builders instead of bolting a bracket on have chosen to build it into the hull design of the boat.

Jassman 07-17-2007 02:07 PM


Originally Posted by FeverMike (Post 2199912)
Jassman, I have looked over the 24 Spectre real hard and that is a very nice little boat. The fit finish gel mold work and rigging is as nice as any Spectre. Plus the bracket is built in so no b-bracket hanging off the back to worry about and the Spectre is self bailing where most of these other cc performance style boats are not.


Thanks for the info. Is the 24 Spectre a larger 24 or on the smaller side like Concept's:p :D All right MarylandMark, let me have it:drink:

BIG STEVE 07-17-2007 02:30 PM

You should take a look at the Carrera 23' which over all is 24'4".
And no disrespect to Capt. Concept:D but their 24' looks like a flat with a t-top.

TSPM 07-17-2007 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG STEVE (Post 2200966)
You should take a look at the Carrera 23' which over all is 24'4".
And no disrespect to Capt. Concept:D but their 24' looks like a flat with a t-top.

Ya mean this cool boat which has an 8' beam and you can get twin 200's on it for CC rocketship :drink:

TSPM 07-17-2007 02:36 PM

oops./..F'd it up fellas bad image relay:p

TSPM 07-17-2007 02:38 PM

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I'll try again.......

TSPM 07-17-2007 02:41 PM

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Different pic ....... :rolleyes:

FeverMike 07-17-2007 04:25 PM


Originally Posted by BIG STEVE (Post 2200966)
And no disrespect to Capt. Concept:D

Now that really fits and is really funny! I needed a good laugh! Sorry there Mark!:drink:

FeverMike 07-17-2007 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Jassman (Post 2200915)
Thanks for the info. Is the 24 Spectre a larger 24 or on the smaller side like Concept's:p :D All right MarylandMark, let me have it:drink:

Not seeing the 2 side by side I'd say the Spectre has more beam and much deeper gunwales. If I remember correctly the Spectre had around a 80 or 90 gallon fuel tank and the Concept is smaller. The Concept looks more like a flats boat to me and is like a 7' beam. The Concept looks more old school traditonal and the Spectre is more modern looking. I know that the Spectre is a liner built self bailing hull and that is real important in a CC especially in a little boat.

BIG STEVE 07-17-2007 06:32 PM

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Mark have you ever seen a Carrera in person? If not and if you can make it i'll be in L.I. with Paul for a poker run in august. I'm taking a 36' open w/triple 300 Suzuki and hopefully a 32' or 30'.

Jassman 07-17-2007 06:33 PM


Originally Posted by BIG STEVE (Post 2200966)
You should take a look at the Carrera 23' which over all is 24'4".
And no disrespect to Capt. Concept:D but their 24' looks like a flat with a t-top.


Ive been also talking to TSPM, thanks Jeff

TSPM 07-17-2007 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by BIG STEVE (Post 2201440)
Mark have you ever seen a Carrera in person? If not and if you can make it i'll be in L.I. with Paul for a poker run in august. I'm taking a 36' open w/triple 300 Suzuki and hopefully a 32' or 30'.

OPA Race out of Patchogue ......:D

FeverMike 07-17-2007 10:25 PM

Anyone know what happened to Ocean Hawk? They built the Cigarette 33 Cafe. They started building this boat as the 33 Ocean Hawk (it's like a 36 Concept) but I have not heard a peep out of them in over a year.

Also what happened to the Catera molds? They had a performance looking CC like a Concept but it did not seem to be built anywhere as nice.

Latitude Powerboats 07-18-2007 06:20 AM

Ocean Hawk, Phill owns the molds, he has a nice fiberglass repair shop in North Miami, only making boats on order.
Catera is trying to come back molds are sitting here in Miami.
:cool:

jbutah 07-18-2007 06:50 AM

Wasn't the Avanti 33' (the ones made in Miami) an Ocean Hawk as well? I thought I read that somewhere.

Latitude Powerboats 07-18-2007 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by jbutah (Post 2202027)
Wasn't the Avanti 33' (the ones made in Miami) an Ocean Hawk as well? I thought I read that somewhere.

New people make Avanti's down here.

jbutah 07-18-2007 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by Latitude Powerboats (Post 2202070)
New people make Avanti's down here.

Who? I have read bad things about the guy in NJ, but heard the late 80s avantis were built real well down in Miami.


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