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Randy you asked for it.
I will flat out call you a LIER. I was one of your customers. I had a 2000 Profile sent it to you twice in 2000 and 2001 for what you called warranty hull repairs from bad glass work. You never fixed it right, just covered it up with more bad repairs. I complained to your manager and was told you never even seen my boat repairs, but you had the nerve to send me a letter stating you seen all the repairs an the boat is fine. I still have your letter. I also have the bills I paid from others that did the stringer repairs, small hull cracks, engine hatch cracks to name just a few problems. So don't come here thinking continued lies will not bite you in the butt. Other Profile owners have stated the same problems with your great customer service here.
I will flat out call you a LIER. I was one of your customers. I had a 2000 Profile sent it to you twice in 2000 and 2001 for what you called warranty hull repairs from bad glass work. You never fixed it right, just covered it up with more bad repairs. I complained to your manager and was told you never even seen my boat repairs, but you had the nerve to send me a letter stating you seen all the repairs an the boat is fine. I still have your letter. I also have the bills I paid from others that did the stringer repairs, small hull cracks, engine hatch cracks to name just a few problems. So don't come here thinking continued lies will not bite you in the butt. Other Profile owners have stated the same problems with your great customer service here.
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Randy, I'm glad they liked your boat and my comment in no way was meant to be disrespectful. I still take issue with them giving an award to a manufacturer that has only built two boats and is brand new on the scene. That is the only issue I take with that. I believe after being on the scene for a few years and proving what you’re made of comes first before awards are handed out. Like I said, I have nothing against Extreme mag, I actually enjoy their magazine greatly. And in regards to pricing, I think boat pricing in general is out of hand. Up in the million dollar purchase price for a 40 cat is ridiculous for any cat let along one that has no proven history in my opinion.
I have nothing against you or your boat. I’ve never seen your boat in person and I’ve never dealt with you personally or through business. It’s always refreshing when a company owner comes and faces the issues head on. I wish you the best of luck and hopefully the rumors that are running rampant on this thread can be either righted or resolved.
Now bring that thing out to the Havasu poker run so I can look at it first hand!
I have nothing against you or your boat. I’ve never seen your boat in person and I’ve never dealt with you personally or through business. It’s always refreshing when a company owner comes and faces the issues head on. I wish you the best of luck and hopefully the rumors that are running rampant on this thread can be either righted or resolved.
Now bring that thing out to the Havasu poker run so I can look at it first hand!
We will be there with Hot Boat in April. I would like to meet you. You sound like an intelligent person.
Thank you,
Randy Schultz
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Why would I call you now? I tried years ago to get chit right with you. The last thing I want to do is listen to you hem and haw on the phone like you did then. I just hope you have changed they way you build a boat because if you have half the troubles with the new ones that you had with Profile (that you won't admitt) you are in for big troubles with that price tag there won't be any little guys to ignore and side step the problems. By the Randy, my name is Mark Livingston from Syracuse N.Y. ring a bell?
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Was on the green boat in Miami. Looked ok until a small boat wake came. When the wake hit the boat, it shuddered.
Can't imagine what it would do with larger wakes or offshore!. BTW: the wake came from a go-fast boat in a no-wake zone.
I also find it interesting that the reps presenting the boat kept repeating and making a big point that Randy Shultz has nothing to do with LG. Yet here he is on this thread. . . . . . . . . . .
Nice looking boat though.
Can't imagine what it would do with larger wakes or offshore!. BTW: the wake came from a go-fast boat in a no-wake zone.
I also find it interesting that the reps presenting the boat kept repeating and making a big point that Randy Shultz has nothing to do with LG. Yet here he is on this thread. . . . . . . . . . .
Nice looking boat though.
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Like Cosmic said going back over things you can't change is a waste of time. Also Cosmic your correct on Randy dealing with customers of that price range. He is in a class of buyers that will not put up with his lies. Lies already starting with the new company people stating he is not connected to them just shows how will his good name stands out.
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I didn't go down bigtime. I sold Profile in 2004 for a great price.
400 lb Dean will be going down big time if he keeps making up these tall tales. He simply couldn't afford the work he wanted done on his boat and so he bad mouthed me to get out of paying the bill. His boat was 13 years old and had been abused by many people before he even owned it. It didn't even have half of the original equipment in it.
That is all I am going to say. I work 7 days a week and have better things to do than sit around and talk to people I don't even know hiding behind these crazy email addresses.
Randy Schultz
400 lb Dean will be going down big time if he keeps making up these tall tales. He simply couldn't afford the work he wanted done on his boat and so he bad mouthed me to get out of paying the bill. His boat was 13 years old and had been abused by many people before he even owned it. It didn't even have half of the original equipment in it.
That is all I am going to say. I work 7 days a week and have better things to do than sit around and talk to people I don't even know hiding behind these crazy email addresses.
Randy Schultz
Please reframe from insults and lies about me... people on this board know me and last weekend some were sitting at Ker's Winghouse with me over a beer... the 400lb comment is simply more of your lies... it simply starts the conversation with everyone knowing you are a liar...
The boat had all the original equipment, should I post pictures? This is another lie.
As to the boat being abused, should I ask the folks here, on this forum, who saw the boat before and after about abused?
Work orders and pictures are simply state more of the lies you have stated and implied.
As to paying for the work done, you were paid for work that was not done, or so poorly done it was worse than before you started, which is why MC reversed the charge from the first dispute resolution, and then upheld the reversal from the second hearing you requested. This is simply another lie.
Randy, with what little respect I can muster for you, I will make the following educational comments. i hope you are smart enough to listen to them:
1) In my profession I keep documents to build and verify facts. I have the documents relating to our issue in my possession and you should have seen them. If not I will be glad to post them here for your review.
2) This issue was settled TWICE in my favor by neutral third parties, you know this, and I would bet a jury of boating enthusiast like the folks here at OSO would find the same result if the need arises to have yet ANOTHER hearing on the matter.
3) You do not know all of the info I have on you personally, it was legally obtained, and you probably don't want it posted here. Do you want to take that chance?????
4)You do not want to start this here, you got betch slapped last time here, it will happen again, best to simply go quietly into the night...
5) Lastly, you committed credit card fraud against me personally; the evidence of this is so overwhelming it is a dead issue. From the statements I have from others it was hardly the first time, it was just the first time someone betch slapped you for it and you are pised off you could not screw me like you had so many others. The only thing greater than your ignorance, is your arragoance.
For those reading this story... here is the TRUTH...
I bought the boat from a State Farm Agency Owner near LOTO, he was the second owner, and simply did not use it any more, it was in good shape but dated, the rear deck pad was very serviceable but had tears on the edges... after using the boat a couple months during a turn the bolster seats came apart, throwing me across the cabin, resulting in a lot of injury and a hospital stay. I called Randy Schultz, he and Debbie wanted the boat back and promised to fix it. I assumed they were honest people, so I contracted with them to have a complete interior done and paint the boat. I paid $14K for the work, $7K upfront, and the balance when completed. The exact work to be done was EXTNSIVELY documented.
In December, with absolute no prior notice, and after three months, I get a call stating it was on its way and sign the authorization for the remainder, I refused without seeing the work done. When it arrived the interior was half of what was agreed to and the wrong color, the exterior was to be painted red fading to orange and then yellow, instead there was a grey vinyl stripe. The texture of the hull was that of a painted concrete wall, and the motors (which were to have been winterized) were frozen solid. Additionally there was 2" of ice in the bilge, and the cabin had 6" of ice in it.
I immediately took the boat to a local certified mercruiser chop, I called Randy and he said frozen motors were no big deal and I had "gotten a deal". I tried on 4 occasions express my dissatisfaction, to no avail. After the last cursing I filed a complaint with MC dispute resolution process. The complaint was settled with him getting 50% of the payment. EXTENSIVE documentation was retained to create a paper trail of what had transpired.
Randy then threw a fit and asks for an appeal, the appeal found the first dispute resolution was correct and closed the case. From that point I considered it settled, I hired a local shop to fix the paint and interior, I paid less than half what I paid Randy to redo EVERYTHING from start to finish, and received a fantastic job. I was still in awe at all of this, I had trusted him, he sounded like an honest man, and I believed in him. I simply wanted this sad chapter to end.
A year later I get a suit filed against me in Iowa, after trying to get venue changed unsuccessfully I hired the president if the Iowa Bar association to represent me in this matter. I also started a long conversation here on OSO which resulted in much negative publicity for Profile and Randy Schultz. During this process I was contacted by no less than 15 people with similar stories, WHO SIGNED SWORN AFADIVIDS TO THIS FACT. Two were even ex-family members of the Schultz. I also hired a PI to find out what info was available that I needed to know. To say the info was shocking is an understatement. (However before you spend this kind of money with someone I suggest you do the same. The country where much (but not all) of the court documents is Bremner County IA.)
The case was settled in my favor despite multiple claims I had slandered him and his company. The defense to slander claims is evidence the claims are true. Randy did not push this because, according to my attorney, he did not want the evidence of what I had said entered into a court as evidence. (I do not have the case # here but I can post it tomorrow if anyone would like to research.)
The start of this problem was Randy was selling the company and instead of doing it right was rushing to get the boat out of the work in process category. He had a history of half-ass repairs, senakin the boat back to the owner in the middle of the night, and since it worked in the past, he decided to try it again.
Here is the part I have been told, but do not have evidence of, but it does fit the rest of the story. Randy found some guy with too much money and not enough business sense to buy the V Hull part of the company. It was a very poorly executed business sale. The boat was painted with Emron, in a non-climate controlled environment, resulting in the textured hull; the interior was replaced with left over parts in the warehouse (which is why the wrong color and half completed job). The frozen motors were pure ignorance or laziness. These motors failed and were soon replaced with another set, today the boat has 502mpi's purchased from someone through the OSO classifieds.
Randy
I suggest you leave me out of it, and keep your lies and false assertions to yourself. Look at my post count, that should tell you I have had LOTS of conversations with folks here, yu just can't see them because you are not a OSO member, ratehr more like a guest. Members have access to places you can't go. This is more evidence of your not doing your homework before shooting off at the mouth. And I believe, about the same way you build boats and run a business.
You tried hard to screw me and I beat you at that game three times already, you apparently are not that bright. You do not want this pissing contest with me and quite frankly I do not either, but if you start it, rest assured I will open up with both barrels, and I have nothing to lose by exposing you for who you are. In the words of a old coon dog hunter friend of mine, "don't **** where you sleep"....
Oh, and as to not having the money to afford what I want, you have no clue, no fking clue what so ever....
Last edited by dean51267; 03-02-2008 at 04:21 PM.
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