Liquid glass
03-03-2008 | 12:16 PM
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Before I found oso, I looked at a 37 foot profile. I knew nothing of the manufacturer, and went in with an open mind. The boat was cheap, so I knew it wouldn't be in perfect condition. What I saw shocked me, IMO the boat needs to be scrapped.
Here is a short list of what was very wrong with the boat I looked at. First, there wasn't a straight line on the boat. The deck had more waves than the Atlantic, even the center line from the fairing to the bow was not straight!! It wasn't just a little wavy, in the middle of the deck it was about 1/2 inch off of straight, then went back to the semi right direction after that. Forget bout the sides.
Luckily it was raining when I saw the boat, because it was also raining inside the cabin! Everything was soaked, and it was literally flowing water though every where, even the deck joints. Every piece of trim was metal that looked to be hand painted at one point, now just rusted plain steel. Aluminum could not have been much more money to use.
The only good thing on the whole boat were the HP500s, and profile had nothing to do with those. Forget about the rigging.
Now, I wouldn't come onto this post bashing a completely different manufacturer if it weren't for the claiming of a small percentage of boats being bad.
I would hope that liquid glass does not have even half the problems that I have seen first hand, and then heard many accounts of personally.
Dean said it best. It would have been much, much better to come on here and say "yes, we have had some issues, and learned from our mistakes".
Denying something that everyone knows as fact gets you nowhere. Its called responsibility for your actions. Take it, admit it, and learn from it.
Here is a short list of what was very wrong with the boat I looked at. First, there wasn't a straight line on the boat. The deck had more waves than the Atlantic, even the center line from the fairing to the bow was not straight!! It wasn't just a little wavy, in the middle of the deck it was about 1/2 inch off of straight, then went back to the semi right direction after that. Forget bout the sides.
Luckily it was raining when I saw the boat, because it was also raining inside the cabin! Everything was soaked, and it was literally flowing water though every where, even the deck joints. Every piece of trim was metal that looked to be hand painted at one point, now just rusted plain steel. Aluminum could not have been much more money to use.
The only good thing on the whole boat were the HP500s, and profile had nothing to do with those. Forget about the rigging.
Now, I wouldn't come onto this post bashing a completely different manufacturer if it weren't for the claiming of a small percentage of boats being bad.
I would hope that liquid glass does not have even half the problems that I have seen first hand, and then heard many accounts of personally.
Dean said it best. It would have been much, much better to come on here and say "yes, we have had some issues, and learned from our mistakes".
Denying something that everyone knows as fact gets you nowhere. Its called responsibility for your actions. Take it, admit it, and learn from it.
I never admitted we didn't have a few problems. No hull failures and that's what counts. I honestly did not have customers calling me to complain.
03-03-2008 | 12:19 PM
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03-03-2008 | 01:42 PM
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My husband, Byron Pritchett, bought our 1996 29' Profile in 1998 in showroom condition. The original owner was meticulous, which was a connection they definitely shared! We keep our boat on Lake George, NY. It has always been a head-turner, and my husband was a total high-performance guy. He named the boat "Just a Little Faster", which says it all! Byron was a boating magazine hound, and read every issue of Powerboat and Hot Boat cover-to-cover. He also owned 17 snowmobiles, and did all of his own work on his snowmobiles (and most of his friends'), and most of his own work on his boats. Most (maybe all) other high-performance guys on the Lake either knew Byron personally or by reputation. I can't remember ever pulling into the local popular restaurants on the water without someone gathering around the boat to compliment it and ask questions about its performance, even when we were surrounded by newer and bigger Fountains, Formulas and Bajas. We rarely made it through a meal without Byron hopping up and running down to the dock to help move boats around so that his would always be protected. This sounds irritatingly anal, but Byron had a unique charisma and charm that helped ease the annoyance!
In February 2004, Byron was in a horrible snowmobile accident. After several hours in the snow on a remote trail in the Adirondacks, he was transported to a local ER, then to Burlington hospital due to the extent of his injuries. It was necessary to amputate his right arm the first day in Burlington because the impact was so great it severed to main nerves going to his arm. I tried to take action immediately to plan for his eventual release, and knowing that Byron's passion in life was snowmobiling and boating, contacted his friends to start designing so he could get back into these activities as soon as possible, because I knew it would be the only way By would survive. He was the kind of guy who was always active, either working, playing or in the garage working on motors! Among the people I contacted via email in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep at the hospital were Randy and Debbie of Profile. The next day I received a very personal reply stating their concern for Byron and offering to modify the boat in whatever way needed to support his needs. I told this to all of his friends who frequently came up to the ICU, even though it was hours away for them to drive. Their support and personal interest in Byron offered me a little glimmer of hope that Byron might be able to somehow cope with this tragedy when he was released.
Byron never regained consciousness, and I lost him on March 2. His memorial service was held in Lake George, with an amazing show of support and love which reflected his unique energy and spirit that attracted so many people to him.
I decided to keep our Profile on the lake because it was too overwhelming to think of it being anywhere but on Byron's favorite spot in the world. His brother and I noticed a faint smell of gas when we first launched it, and several of his "motor-head" friends looked at it and offered different opinions. Most felt it was probably just old gas in the hull. On July 4 week-end when my brother-in-law removed the canvas covers, he discovered a huge amount of gas in the bilge. Byron's friend arranged to have the boat towed to a nearby marina, where they tested it for a couple of weeks before determining it most likely was a leak in the gas tank. In the meanwhile, we were in contact with Debbie and Randy, who offered their support from the start. After doing some tests that confirmed a leak, they sent a driver from Sumner, IA to Chatham, NY and picked up the boat. They discovered a pin-hole sized leak in the gas tank, replaced the entire gas tank, and returned the boat in about 2 week's time!!!!!!!! All this was at no charge!!!! I am writing to express my profound gratitude and support for Randy and Debbie (and Lorie!) for their integrity and reliability. We have other friends with Cigarette powerboats and other major manufacturer-powerboats who have experienced problems and had to fight every step of the way only to be disappointed in the results. The owners of Profile have stood by their boat, even though it was a 1996, and absolutely did the right thing. I know that our friends and my brother-in-law will absolutely enthusiastically support Profile in the future, and there will be more of them on Lake George in the future!! Thank you, Randy and Debbie, for your support at this devastating time in our lives.
Gratefully,
Lisa Pritchett
Does this sound like Randy is a criminal?
In February 2004, Byron was in a horrible snowmobile accident. After several hours in the snow on a remote trail in the Adirondacks, he was transported to a local ER, then to Burlington hospital due to the extent of his injuries. It was necessary to amputate his right arm the first day in Burlington because the impact was so great it severed to main nerves going to his arm. I tried to take action immediately to plan for his eventual release, and knowing that Byron's passion in life was snowmobiling and boating, contacted his friends to start designing so he could get back into these activities as soon as possible, because I knew it would be the only way By would survive. He was the kind of guy who was always active, either working, playing or in the garage working on motors! Among the people I contacted via email in the middle of the night when I couldn't sleep at the hospital were Randy and Debbie of Profile. The next day I received a very personal reply stating their concern for Byron and offering to modify the boat in whatever way needed to support his needs. I told this to all of his friends who frequently came up to the ICU, even though it was hours away for them to drive. Their support and personal interest in Byron offered me a little glimmer of hope that Byron might be able to somehow cope with this tragedy when he was released.
Byron never regained consciousness, and I lost him on March 2. His memorial service was held in Lake George, with an amazing show of support and love which reflected his unique energy and spirit that attracted so many people to him.
I decided to keep our Profile on the lake because it was too overwhelming to think of it being anywhere but on Byron's favorite spot in the world. His brother and I noticed a faint smell of gas when we first launched it, and several of his "motor-head" friends looked at it and offered different opinions. Most felt it was probably just old gas in the hull. On July 4 week-end when my brother-in-law removed the canvas covers, he discovered a huge amount of gas in the bilge. Byron's friend arranged to have the boat towed to a nearby marina, where they tested it for a couple of weeks before determining it most likely was a leak in the gas tank. In the meanwhile, we were in contact with Debbie and Randy, who offered their support from the start. After doing some tests that confirmed a leak, they sent a driver from Sumner, IA to Chatham, NY and picked up the boat. They discovered a pin-hole sized leak in the gas tank, replaced the entire gas tank, and returned the boat in about 2 week's time!!!!!!!! All this was at no charge!!!! I am writing to express my profound gratitude and support for Randy and Debbie (and Lorie!) for their integrity and reliability. We have other friends with Cigarette powerboats and other major manufacturer-powerboats who have experienced problems and had to fight every step of the way only to be disappointed in the results. The owners of Profile have stood by their boat, even though it was a 1996, and absolutely did the right thing. I know that our friends and my brother-in-law will absolutely enthusiastically support Profile in the future, and there will be more of them on Lake George in the future!! Thank you, Randy and Debbie, for your support at this devastating time in our lives.
Gratefully,
Lisa Pritchett
Does this sound like Randy is a criminal?
03-03-2008 | 02:18 PM
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God I hate this crap. Lisa Pritchett??? Seems to me someone is posting in the 3rd person. I just noticed that the lgboats registered has come up the same one every post. Lisa exactly where did you buy the 29?
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03-03-2008 | 02:32 PM
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Be honest please. You didn't ride in the boat and the reps said no such thing. Our website will talk about Randy Schultz
at great lengths. http:www.liquidglassboats.com
He has had 30 years of experience hands on which is more than many other manufacturers. He was driving the boat during the whole show in Miami and was there with the reps.
This site is so full of unreliable information I don't know what to believe. Thanks to everyone though because due to all these threads iour LG website has record breaking traffic and we have sold 2 boats just since this broke!
at great lengths. http:www.liquidglassboats.com
He has had 30 years of experience hands on which is more than many other manufacturers. He was driving the boat during the whole show in Miami and was there with the reps.
This site is so full of unreliable information I don't know what to believe. Thanks to everyone though because due to all these threads iour LG website has record breaking traffic and we have sold 2 boats just since this broke!
I was there at that moment - not you!!! I don't know you!. I have better things to do and nothing to gain by making something up with my LG experience in Miami. However; I was on one of your crappy Profiles at a boat show a few years ago. The cockpit floor flexed like crazy as I walked on it, the cabin floor made a cracking noise as I stepped out. After looking hard at it - I was disappointed in what I saw. Also, on the LG boat, there was a huge gap that was filled w/ caulk. It was where the tailpipe exited the transom.
I never said I rode in the boat - READ MY POST AGAIN!!!! It was docked on the outside ring dock. The boat shuddered AT THE DOCK when a boat wake hit it. I was not the only one that felt it.
The rep presenting the repeated numerous times that Randy Shultz was not involved w/ LG. He did tell the story of you selling Profile, but went on to say thay RS was not involved w/ LG.
There were two other OSO members there with me and they too heard the whole story too. You want them to chime in too??? I even think I have a picture of the boat with the reps in it. You want me to post that pic so you know who I spoke with.
No wonder this thread has the tone that it has. Too many people stating the same thing!!!
That said; I will say the LG boat LOOKED great!
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03-03-2008 | 02:53 PM
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The lady thanks the wrong people. It should be Cosmic, Dean and the rest of us that paid for services never received. After reading that at least some of my money went to a go cause. Randy should ask the new buyers to come on here and meet the rest of the happy family of his. Cosmic, you must of got the rest of the can of bondo from my repairs.
