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berns29scarab 04-15-2008 05:13 PM

Are You Ready !!??!!

DollaBill 04-15-2008 05:13 PM

Read the locked thread in GD from earlier today. It was originally posted in the Concept forum. It got ugly. She called me out then tried to delete it but we got it in time and locked it up.

Long story short, someone asked about the value of a 32 Concept. I told them it depreciated badly. I never said anything about quality or the company or dealers, etc. Ms. Concepts head spun around and then she took it another level. Cash Bar told her she should just leave this one alone and she decided not to.

Then she attacks Dreamer and then ALL OSO members who "don't have a life" because we post regularly.

In a nutshell.................

berns29scarab 04-15-2008 05:14 PM

LETS GET IT ON !!!:hitfan::evilb::nhl_fight:

joew. 04-15-2008 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 2526292)
I don't care if she had Pam Andersons t!ts, Carmen Electras azz and could suck-start a '48 Harley Panhead. She made a big mistake

If she has all that....... I know most of us would feel better once we saw what we were dealing with:evilb::D

getchasum111 04-15-2008 05:24 PM

I'm not looking for a ceter console....but if I did...I know what is not going to be on the list....How can a rep for a company like that act like a child...really kind of funny....I told everyone in the office about it....it was a good laugh....

berns29scarab 04-15-2008 05:28 PM


Originally Posted by getchasum111 (Post 2526318)
I'm not looking for a ceter console....but if I did...I know what is not going to be on the list....How can a rep for a company like that act like a child...really kind of funny....I told everyone in the office about it....it was a good laugh....

want to know the irony of this whole thing. my boss who's a boat nut and has bought and sold probably 10-12 in the last 10 years was interested in this boat when i told him about it 3 days ago. i had him read these 2 threads and guess what...HE'S NO LONGER INTERESTED !!

DollaBill 04-15-2008 05:31 PM

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It's far from over Ms. Concept. What was that about a cup?

I tried to tell her to leave it alone............. What was that about you'll keep laughing?

packinair 04-15-2008 05:35 PM

Well, there is a small hand full of people on here that you do not want to be on their radar. If you do not believe me then call up power play and ask them how business is going, or call fred at trick. Not a good idea to chit where you eat. Do I see a blip on my screen Bill? :cool-smiley-011:

DRIVEN1 04-15-2008 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by berns29scarab (Post 2526324)
want to know the irony of this whole thing. my boss who's a boat nut and has bought and sold probably 10-12 in the last 10 years was interested in this boat when i told him about it 3 days ago. i had him read these 2 threads and guess what...HE'S NO LONGER INTERESTED !!

So right about now what do you think the Latitude, Carrera, Fountain, and Donzi factory reps are doing?:ernaehrung004:

wigginout 04-15-2008 05:38 PM

Dang, I wanna see what she going to do with Bill's parts.

snl 04-15-2008 05:39 PM

Wow, if her boss sees this I think she may be out of a job, or at least she should be. Look at all the sales and potential sales she has cost them over acting like a child.

Regardless of the quality or value (or lack thereof) of their boat, no one wants to buy a boat from a company that has representatives act this way.

BIG mistake on her part.

DollaBill 04-15-2008 05:40 PM


Originally Posted by packinair (Post 2526333)
Well, there is a small hand full of people on here that you do not want to be on their radar. If you do not believe me then call up power play and ask them how business is going, or call fred at trick. Not a good idea to chit where you eat. Do I see a blip on my screen Bill? :cool-smiley-011:

Roger that goose.

DollaBill 04-15-2008 05:58 PM

Anyone else see these boats at Lauderdale for the show? What were the FACTORY specials

DollaBill 04-15-2008 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by berns29scarab (Post 2526324)
want to know the irony of this whole thing. my boss who's a boat nut and has bought and sold probably 10-12 in the last 10 years was interested in this boat when i told him about it 3 days ago. i had him read these 2 threads and guess what...HE'S NO LONGER INTERESTED !!

Tell Fred I said hi. Long time no talk

rainmn 04-15-2008 06:19 PM

Ok Bill - just finally read both threads. (wish I would have read them in the opposite order :D)

Looks like this is going to leave a mark for someone. :party-smiley-004:



...and for the record, I like Concepts. I was just looking at one last weekend.

DollaBill 04-15-2008 06:23 PM

Never said I didnt like them I don't like the representation

otis311 04-15-2008 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 2526366)
Anyone else see these boats at Lauderdale for the show? What were the FACTORY specials


I was at the Lauderdale show and was interested in the product until I saw the quality of there boat that they allowed to be in a MAJOR boat show. The upholstery on the sport model was stitched by Mr Maggoo on a good drunk. I really liked Bills 32' and wanted to check them out and was highly disappointed

otis311 04-15-2008 06:44 PM

I also am not impressed with Ms Concept and how she "threatened" Bill and others about if they are wearing a cup. I read and re-read the thread to see if I missed something but it appears to me that she just took offence to Bills true statement that her boats depreciate.

She sure did pick the wrong person to f&ck with


Brandon, You buying the shots ?? Im in !!!!

DollaBill 04-15-2008 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by otis311 (Post 2526411)
I also am not impressed with Ms Concept and how she "threatened" Bill and others about if they are wearing a cup. I read and re-read the thread to see if I missed something but it appears to me that she just took offence to Bills true statement that her boats depreciate.

She sure did pick the wrong person to f&ck with


Brandon, You buying the shots ?? Im in !!!!

I especially like the part where I tell to leave it alone then tell her to keep laughing. She then tells me she will and for me to do the same.

Mr Magoo on a good drunk. LMAO. Now thats funny!

fountain11 04-15-2008 07:02 PM

36 Concept
 

Originally Posted by Sydwayz (Post 2526177)
Two thoughts:

1. Bill's & Shogren's former Concept is now owned by some friends we know on the WC of Florida. It's doing well as far as I know.

2. How much damage can stripper glitter do to a 42' Fountain?

I bought a 36' concept from Shogren Marine and live on the west coast of Florida, all is well now Craig from tampa

UNSANE 04-15-2008 07:03 PM

Dammmm!!! Now the whole Concept Forum is gone!:eek:

DollaBill 04-15-2008 07:30 PM

Ms. Concept,

The internet, as well as OSO, uses what we call "tags" (believe me I know nothing about the net) for words you search. These words are used to, for example, find articles or threads on the desired subject.

OSO uses these "tags" too. There are ones like "Cigarette" and "Fountain" and "DollaBill" (:)). Concept is also a tag.

The current status of yours, and all things relating to yours, is now

_ONCEPT

Going one letter at a time

offshoredrillin 04-15-2008 08:23 PM

Wow, all I can say Ms Concept, last person on OSO to talk to their clients this way was Fred at Trick Marine. I wonder how his business is now? Oh thats right he isnt... Your low class attitude towards your customers and members of this forum sucks. I would now NEVER consider one of your boats.

otis311 04-15-2008 08:41 PM


Originally Posted by DollaBill (Post 2526489)
Ms. Concept,

The internet, as well as OSO, uses what we call "tags" (believe me I know nothing about the net) for words you search. These words are used to, for example, find articles or threads on the desired subject.

OSO uses these "tags" too. There are ones like "Cigarette" and "Fountain" and "DollaBill" (:)). Concept is also a tag.

The current status of yours, and all things relating to yours, is now

_ONCEPT

Going one letter at a time


Oh no, Her C is gone ?? what next ??

Tom A. 04-15-2008 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by otis311 (Post 2526583)
Oh no, Her C is gone ?? what next ??

LMFAO!!!!!!

:food-smiley-007:Popcorn.....get your fresh hot popcorn here!:food-smiley-007:

DollaBill 04-15-2008 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by otis311 (Post 2526583)
Oh no, Her C is gone ?? what next ??

let's see..

O for outsourcing
N for new business idea
C for can I come back from this
E for energy I need to explain to my boss what happened
P for piss no one off again...piss no one off again...piss no off again
T for take this job and shove it. I'm going back to flipping burgers!!!!!

CasinoRunner 04-15-2008 08:50 PM


Originally Posted by joew. (Post 2526310)
If she has all that....... I know most of us would feel better once we saw what we were dealing with:evilb::D

http://www.conceptboats.com/Videos/C...%2030%20CC.htm

http://www.conceptboats.com/Videos/Concept%2030%20CC.htm

DollaBill 04-15-2008 08:53 PM

I will go find and impregnate a willing female TONIGHT and then sacrifice the child if someone can take that video and dub it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BY U BOY 04-15-2008 09:06 PM

next time hire a professional to sell your boat.

Back4More 04-15-2008 10:03 PM

:food-smiley-007:Still haven't found anything worth getting huffy about....I'll go read the other thread.

yss 04-15-2008 10:27 PM

It did seem to me that there was an insinuation (in the other thread) that you can't sell the boat because it is a Concept. Therefore, I think Ms. Concept was was justified in defending her company. I can't believe the ranting going on about basically nothing. It's been my experience buying things (autos, boats...) that when you purchase things new and and go to sell them you LOSE your asss. To hope for anything better (especially under the current economic circumstances) is just wishful thinking.:party-smiley-004:

The nut kicking didn't help her though.

DollaBill 04-15-2008 10:30 PM

I just made it clear that the concept that I bought and sold lost more (%) than other boats I've dealt with. With that being said I've bought and sold over 1000 boats and been on the NADA board for used boat sales since '99. I never knocked the co or the product, just stated the facts of the depreciation. Do you have info I don't have?

Back4More 04-15-2008 10:51 PM

So she took it to heart and wanted to kick you in the nuts over it?

fountain4play 04-15-2008 11:43 PM

Well I'd have to say this has been entertaining to say the least...being one of the thousands of fellow "OSO'ers who doesn't apparently have a life and I took it all of this in with a "grain of salt"... hmmm I wonder is there someone here on OSO talented enough to make one of those "Celebrity Death Match" Claymation films with DollaBill in one corner and "Ms Concept in the other...now that would be an entertaining bout... :cool-smiley-026:

stecz20 04-15-2008 11:50 PM

i say f mrs concept, who this is really hurting is the paying members who own a concept, you guys know.....THE PEOPLE THAT PAY MEMBERSHIP... i have a few friends that own a concept and use the forum as i use the cig forum.... hurt mrs concept, dont hurt your paying members.....

FeverMike 04-16-2008 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by Bullhead (Post 2526234)
She's probably a little defensive after that "glowing review" their sport boat got in PowerBoat

Ouch!:hitfan::p:D

there has been more than 2 arguments with consumers on OSO on the Concept forum...ya gotta dig back some years.

FeverMike 04-16-2008 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by yss (Post 2526773)
It did seem to me that there was an insinuation (in the other thread) that you can't sell the boat because it is a Concept. Therefore, I think Ms. Concept was was justified in defending her company. I can't believe the ranting going on about basically nothing. It's been my experience buying things (autos, boats...) that when you purchase things new and and go to sell them you LOSE your asss. To hope for anything better (especially under the current economic circumstances) is just wishful thinking.:party-smiley-004:

The nut kicking didn't help her though.


Agree, but the 32 Concept DollaBill was selling was not a used boat. It was a new MSO boat...that is the whole point about all this...the resale, sell through, profit margin and so forth is horrible. That is the point Bill is trying to make.

FeverMike 04-16-2008 12:37 AM

Oh yeah I have a life but get bored on the road in hotels!

DollaBill 04-16-2008 06:46 AM

On my way to get a cup this morning. I'll be fed-ex'ing to their offices today. Ought to be good :)

ROCKSTAR1 04-16-2008 07:00 AM

Get your facts straight
 
You apparently only owned your Concept for a short time. Let me tell you that Rep stands behind the product like no other boat company I've ever worked with and I've purchased 4 new boats in the last 16months. After the sale she is still there for you. I am coming out of a 38ZR (nice boat also) but, when it comes to customer service Concept has it going on. Susan is one of the best and most caring person you will ever meet. You owe her an apology. By the way...they don't sell boats factory direct.


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