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Old 09-18-2013 | 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
I'm sure you were eating popcorn and giggling in awe of that.
As soon as I get this carb together (maybe another 1/2 hour) I'm going to take this 47 Knucklehead out for a quick ride. Thanks for the advice.
With the thread taking a turn for the better now, maybe not being such a dick would work in your favor this time. if you cant add or possibly help with progressing an open dialect, maybe you shouldn't type.
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Old 09-18-2013 | 11:53 AM
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I think Brad Schoenwald would be an excellent candidate since he has the actual knowledge, training and expierience.He is also, like you ,articulate! I thought his views on the DS crash were spot on
http://www.power boat nation.com/content/248-danger-desert-storm-crash-s-not-boats-fault.html#comments

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Old 09-18-2013 | 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
With the thread taking a turn for the better now, maybe not being such a dick would work in your favor this time. if you cant add or possibly help with progressing an open dialect, maybe you shouldn't type.
One dick to another......Try C Sprays method, and preserve your fun.
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Old 09-18-2013 | 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
I'm sure you were eating popcorn and giggling in awe of that.
As soon as I get this carb together (maybe another 1/2 hour) I'm going to take this 47 Knucklehead out for a quick ride. Thanks for the advice.
You are right when it comes to ranking engineering achievements fully autonomous vehicles have got nothing on the leaking, vibrating, wonder that is 45hp of knucklehead fury. On second thought old HDs are known for autonomous self disassembly so perhaps its a tie. And thank you for the advice about taking a ride. I am going out to the lake this afternoon and pull my boys skiing with an E-tec blend of the old I love in two strokes that still embraces the advances technology has given us all. Besides there is something fundamentally hypocritical and disingenuous about praising dinosaurs and dissing on technology while sitting at a quad core machine using Al's web.

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Old 09-18-2013 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by C_Spray
It's called "Recognize and Report".

It's simple. The fellow participants turn the azzhats in to the organizer. The only technologies needed are eyeballs and brains. Works like a champ, costs nothing and requires no additional cameras, satellite downlinks, personnel, peer reviews or command headquarters. On top of that, it also works real-time.

Unless technology is going to shut the throttles down and steer the boat, it's not going to stop anything.

Your turn: Explain the management structure that it will take to implement your technology, and how it will fit into all the various Poker Run organizations.

I'm not anti-technology; I'm just an experienced realist.

Peace.
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None of the others will turn in or rat on the "Ballers". Obviously people have seen PP make dumba$$ moves in past PR and he continues to get away with it.

I asked who was the boat in the video doing a Fly bye and not one answer, just crickets. Then someone said its a which hunt LOL.... Clearly people will continue to cover up what these big boys are doing wrong.

So I doubt the "Recognize and Report" system will work now since its completely failed in the past.

This is a celebrity coverup process, Happens everyday, "ballers" get away with all sorts of stuff because nobody wants to stand up to them (mostly because they are being paid by them in someway, or hope to be). I am sure that PP has been supported by the people around him, nobody has said WTF were you thinking and don't do that again. They are all telling the Baller - you are so cool and smart, the best driver/throttle man ever, and they are telling them the world just does not understand. its the same process that enables the kind of behavior we have seen from Miley Cyrus, I am sure she had all sorts of people around her saying it would be so cool if she did what she did.

the more money someone has the more "yes men" they have around them. I have been dealing with Billionaires for 20 years and they all have the same problem, and its not really their fault.

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Originally Posted by Cat & Mice
C_Spray,

None of the others will turn in or rat on the "Ballers". Obviously people have seen PP make dumba$$ moves in past PR and he continues to get away with it.

I asked who was the boat in the video doing a Fly bye and not one answer, just crickets. Then someone said its a which hunt LOL.... Clearly people will continue to cover up what these big boys are doing wrong.

So I doubt the "Recognize and Report" system will work now since its completely failed in the past.
Are you sure it won't magically start working????

Even if everyone involved really stresses safe operation?
Or tells them in the sternest possible way to use common sense?
Or makes them all take a class?
What if everyone involved really, really, stresses safety and mean it?

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Who is "We"??

The reality is that it does not matter what we say here on this thread. It matters what the PR promoters do. Hopefully they are reading all of this and can make changes. They need ideas and the commitment to implement them. it would be good to create a list of possible changes. I have seen a lot of good ideas but some were lost on closed threads.

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Old 09-18-2013 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cat & Mice
Who is "We"??

The reality is that it does not matter what we say here on this thread. It matters what the PR promoters do. Hopefully they are reading all of this and can make changes. They need ideas and the commitment to implement them. it would be good to create a list of possible changes. I have seen a lot of good ideas but some were lost on closed threads.

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"WE", the poker runners, the other boaters and the spectators are the ones to fix this, before "THEY" do.

"WE" need to enter the events, pick-up our expensive t-shirts, leave our ego's in the truck, and have a good, safe time.

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Old 09-18-2013 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nice Pair
"WE", the poker runners, the other boaters and the spectators are the ones to fix this, before "THEY" do.

"WE" need to enter the events, pick-up our expensive t-shirts, leave our ego's in the truck, and have a good, safe time.
Ya good point. I guess I just don't feel like I am in a position to change anything but the fact is I can start by talking to the promoters of the runs I attend. If enough of us voice our concerns in a positive way then then the promoters will make the changes.

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Originally Posted by Cat & Mice
C_Spray,

None of the others will turn in or rat on the "Ballers". Obviously people have seen PP make dumba$$ moves in past PR and he continues to get away with it.

I asked who was the boat in the video doing a Fly bye and not one answer, just crickets. Then someone said its a which hunt LOL.... Clearly people will continue to cover up what these big boys are doing wrong.

So I doubt the "Recognize and Report" system will work now since its completely failed in the past.

This is a celebrity coverup process, Happens everyday, "ballers" get away with all sorts of stuff because nobody wants to stand up to them (mostly because they are being paid by them in someway, or hope to be). I am sure that PP has been supported by the people around him, nobody has said WTF were you thinking and don't do that again. They are all telling the Baller - you are so cool and smart, the best driver/throttle man ever, and they are telling them the world just does not understand. its the same process that enables the kind of behavior we have seen from Miley Cyrus, I am sure she had all sorts of people around her saying it would be so cool if she did what she did.

the more money someone has the more "yes men" they have around them. I have been dealing with Billionaires for 20 years and they all have the same problem, and its not really their fault.

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I told a couple people who the other boat is, but I wont post it on here, not because of any loyalty, but because a few people just want to blame and having them named would prove nothing or settle anything.
As i said and i partly agree with you that no one would want to point out anyone, I think having boats down course of the run videoing that way each person has no way of knowing whom is watching and recording. I also believe that once an offender is made an example of, compliance from other guys would fall in line.
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