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Old 01-07-2009 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Fat Tony
Every man on here is one accusation from being in the same situation as Gary Taylor.
Presumption of innocence means nothing to some I read.
Not to change the subject.. BUT.. I read an article recently:

A man awoke to find an two intruders in his house. Through the darkness he seen a shiny object in one of the intruders hands. He reaches for his gun in the night stand.

He fires round after round chasing them through the house..
He kills one. Serious wounds the other.. he knows he is in trouble. He calls the police.. They arrest him. He talks to his lawyer.. The lawyer tells him he is being charged with 2nd degree murder. They offer him a plea bargan of 12 years.
The Media make him out to be a vigilanty and the two Thugs to be born christians. The Rapp sheet for both of these intruders were 4 pages long.. His day in court: he go 20 years.

This is a TRUE story it happened in England. where there is no right to carry firearms.

My point is: I have heard and Read things that get so turned around that it is the furthest thing from the truth.
He may get his day in court... But with out PROPER Counsel.. WE MAY NEVER KNOW THE TRUTH!!

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Old 01-07-2009 | 08:36 PM
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Do you guys believe everything you read in the news?

To stop the speculation, here's some facts that I've heard from someone VERY close with the family:

Its not an 8 year old case...It over the past 7-8 years.

1 million bail (pretty common on a 7 count felony case)

Gary was recorded by the police in what's called a "cool call" (not a "sting" or a "set up") where he admitted to the aligations.

Now, carry on deabting this and that but there need be no speculation. And remember just because someone knows someone that was falsly accused or because he was such a great business man and a fireman doesn't have anything to do with this case.

Let the court system do it's job. He's still inocent until proven guilty in a court of law by his peers.

Don't hang him yet, and don't blindly defend him either is my suggestion.
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Old 01-07-2009 | 08:36 PM
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I was friends with Gary, I have one of his engines, I enjoyed spending time with Gary and his family his step daughter is 15 years old not 13, During the time with Gary and his family I could not imagine that this would have been going on...all the kids in the neighborhood hung out @ there house and Gary was all about his family, if convicted I can honestly say that there is no way to judge anyone, because I didn't see any signs of a child molestor but they say they really have two sides and they are very rarely noticed. I don't know all of the details but I do know more than I will discuss on here. Everyone needs to stop talking chit and be concerned about Garys wife Teri and the Step Daughter whom I will not mention her name if all aligations are true, it will come out in the trial, but I think that everyone that knows Gary would like stay in the loop of his court apperance. We don't need smart azz on here that have no idea who the man or his family was putting there two cents end or this thread will end up where the other one did and for very good reason...Again keep your thoughts with his family you may all think that being in jail would be horrible but if all is true his wife and step daughter will endure this for the rest of there life.

Anyone on these forms knowing Garys family need to try and help them not because of Gary but because of what the family is going through...
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Old 01-07-2009 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by thisistank
Do you guys believe everything you read in the news?

To stop the speculation, here's some facts that I've heard from someone VERY close with the family:

Its not an 8 year old case...It over the past 7-8 years.

1 million bail (pretty common on a 7 count felony case)

Gary was recorded by the police in what's called a "cool call" (not a "sting" or a "set up") where he admitted to the aligations.

Now, carry on deabting this and that but there need be speculation that someone knows someone that was falsly accused or because he was such a great business man and a fireman has anything to do with this case.

Let the court system do it's job. He's still inocent until proven guilty in a court of law by his peers.

Don't hang him yet, and don't blindly defend him either is my suggestion.
Very well put
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Old 01-07-2009 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 26 REDLINE
Very well put
As with yours...I agree 100% and our thoughts are with his wife and her daughter.
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Old 01-07-2009 | 09:09 PM
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Redline you are correct about not blindly defending him which I may have been. I was just trying to point out that what seems is not always the case and I must have read the 8 year thing wrong. I will butt out of this as I actually know nothing about this case.
I just have some strong feelings about a person who I know of who was charged with a similar crime with a step daughter and when it all came down to it the step daughter said she was put up to it by her mom. But not after his name was drug throught the mud. I was just relating to that.
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Old 01-08-2009 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by thisistank
Do you guys believe everything you read in the news?

To stop the speculation, here's some facts that I've heard from someone VERY close with the family:

Its not an 8 year old case...It over the past 7-8 years.

1 million bail (pretty common on a 7 count felony case)

Gary was recorded by the police in what's called a "cool call" (not a "sting" or a "set up") where he admitted to the aligations.

Now, carry on deabting this and that but there need be no speculation. And remember just because someone knows someone that was falsly accused or because he was such a great business man and a fireman doesn't have anything to do with this case.

Let the court system do it's job. He's still inocent until proven guilty in a court of law by his peers.

Don't hang him yet, and don't blindly defend him either is my suggestion.
very well said.
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Old 01-08-2009 | 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by sean stinson
Let him have his day and if found guilty beyond a reasonable doubt he will suffer the consequences in the big house...
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Old 01-08-2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by thisistank
Gary was recorded by the police in what's called a "cool call" (not a "sting" or a "set up") where he admitted to the aligations.

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If this is really true this does lead me to lean to he is guilty doesnt it

If we are to give him his day in court why would we say he admitted to it?
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Old 01-08-2009 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by klaw
If this is really true this does lead me to lean to he is guilty doesnt it

If we are to give him his day in court why would we say he admitted to it?
I have my personal beliefs on the subject. I'm just relaying a fact in the case to qual the "set up" and conspiracy theories based on the fact Gary was a "great guy", a "great business man" and an "honest public servant". 7 felony counts and a million dollar bail speaks volumes as well.

But we (the general public) wont know all the facts until the case is heard. Then, when both sides make their claims, we can base an opinion on all the facts known.

We both know the court system is flawed. Some are prosecuted that are truely innocent and more often than not some are set free that are truely guilty. The court system feels it is better to free 100 guilty than inprison one innocent.

All I'm saying is, wait until both sides stake their calims. Then, wheather he's found guilty or not, everyone can make an educated presumtion of guilt or innocents based on all facts known.

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