Uncle Dave,

Your post is full of assumptions. No, I won't out the source. And no one ever said the investigators shared info. If the close friend of the family wishes to come on here then he can. Until then he can keep his annonimity. All i can say is consider the source. Take it for what it's worth. Believe it or don't. Won't change the case. However, I don't see how this info contradicts the other. He wants a trial, so he plead not guilty. Not really that big of a suprise.

True...this did happen in California.

It seems like you may be closer than all of us to this problem because of the way you construct your post- We dont know your source so how can we consider it?

You are using the word "facts" in your previous post.

Facts- arent allowed to become "facts" until they are proven.
If you cant PROVE it we have to assume.

"Your post is full of assumptions." And no one ever said the investigators shared info-" - who did the cops have on the line then?

Either you aren't telling us everything you know, or your source is BS

Was the friend of the family hearing the "cool call" in the room with the cops or Gary? Who else would have told the friend? Who else could have known about a cold call besides the cops- or the accusers? just how did the friend get this info?

IF you really have an inside scoop Id like to hear more, but I don't see how you can ask us to accept a friend of a friend story as cannon.

Why would anyone want to remain anonymous if they heard gary confess to being a pedo? I sure wouldnt want to be anonymous. Id be telling everyone.

The DA has already met with the mouthpieces and put the cases on the table.If the case was open and shut(true recorded confession) Gary'd have copped a plea.

Based on it going to trial Im going to predict this will be a long deal.


Uncle Dave

First, I wasn't saying consider my source, I was saying consider me as a reliable source to relay the info. I've been a member here for many years and many on here know me. So I report the info as fact, which it is. Take as fact or don't. What YOU believe isn't going to change the facts or the outcome.

Second, yes, I know more than I have posted. No need to go into details. I still have some beleif in the justice system and believe we should all wait until the outcome of the trail. So even though you'd like to know more, I don't think it's appropriate to go into details.

Third, why would someone want to remain annonymous? Well, I assume some people close to this case are in shock and awe and disbelief. I assume they have better things to do than come onto a boating website to inform a bunch of people that have nothing to do with the case.

Fourth, a "taped confession" and a pretext call are two completely different thing.

I'll say of again. Stop with the assumptions and wait for the case to unfold. Don't hang him nor blindly defend him until all the facts are known.

You print a condemning statement and claim it as cannon fact.

Then rather than prove its fact and explain to us the details of a suspect story you told - you expect us to blindly believe you because you are a veteran poster.

I then question your "facts" & I'm now being told to "stop assuming."- laughable.

If you read my posts you see IM the guy that first called out he needs his day in court and that Ill be the first to get the rope is hes guilty- so I appreciate you re-iterating to me what Ive already called out.

Dont turn your lack of backup when questioned about your stated facts into an issue with me "assuming things." -

The only thing Im trying to get at - is the truth.

You are the one posting sweeping condemning statements.

If I were doing that Id be prepared to answer questions in great detail.


Uncle Dave

Tanks a straight-shooting, standup guy. Period. I believe whatever he has to say and so should the rest of the board.

You turning this place into a courtroom

I've gotten the impression that the so called facts are coming from Gary's wife or a friend of Gary's wife. I have read similar posts on other forums that were posted by one who claimed to be Gary's friend until these charges were filed.

I find the "I heard from a friend of the family" comments that are being thrown around, troubling. One could say, "I heard from Gary that he didn't do it" but that wouldn't any more factual that some of what has been posted here.

Let's leave the hearsay out of our posts about this issue.

Uncle Dave,
Are you familiar with Tank's profession?? Maybe just maybe he knows someone at the watercooler around the office that just may know something as fact!!!

Have a great Day,
Patrick

Ok UD, you win...take it as hearsay. Like I said, it really doesn't matter if you believe it or not. Just trying to shed light on the case. Still doesn't mean he'll be found guilty. My only attempt was to help those blindly defending the guy because he's a fireman and a good mechanic; two things that have nothing to do with the case.

For some reason those that blindly defend him remind me of another notorious case of same allegations of a member here. Many blindly defended due to his profession and he'd been around a long time.


And you and I agree in what counts. Give the guy his day in court. End of discussion.