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Old 07-15-2009, 11:02 PM
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Haven't posted any stories in a while. Since my depo is coming up in a few weeks I thought I would post this. I don't think i posted it before. I'm a little nervouse about the depo. I can't believe it takes 4 years for a law suite to make it to court.

A few years back neighbor asked me if I was interested in buying a 5 gun collection owned by one of his elderly friends needing cash. Back then I didn’t know much about guns, especially old ones. They were all over 25 years old. A few were very cool. I told him I really didn’t have interest but I would try and get rid of them.

I brought the guns to the gun show at the ft. Lauderdale war memorial. When you walk in there is a table with 3 uniformed-off duty police sitting there and they check every gun to see if it’s loaded, then they secure it by putting a wire tire over the trigger.

Renea and I walked up to the table and put the duffle bag on it containing the 5 guns. Took the first one out and gave it to the cop. He asked if it was loaded. I told him, “I didn’t think so but I’m not sure. They are not my guns and I don’t know how to open them to check.”

He told me “don’t worry about it, that’s what we’re here for”.
I handed him the first gun, he was impressed with the gun, he said hadn’t seen one like that in years. He checked out the 2nd one, then the 3rd and as I handed him the 4th, the cop next to him (which was a miserable old bastard) said, “How many more do you have in there, you’re holding up the line!” I told him I had one left. He said “GIVE IT TO ME”,! the cop I was dealing with said, I got it I’m almost done. The old cop grabbed the gun case out of my hand with an attitude. I looked at the cop I had been dealing with and he shrugged his shoulders. About 3 seconds later the loudest BOOM ever was right in our faces. You could feel the compression in our faces and the smoke felt warm, it was right in our faces. I look at the older cop with the gun still smoking in his hand and he says “Where did that round come from?!!!” he checked the gun to see it was empty and threw it in the table in my direction. “I said I don’t know! You were the one checking it.”
He then said where is your permit to carry a loaded firearm? I said I don’t have one. He then got up, threw the table out of the way and threw me and Renea against the wall.

Complete confusion for the next few minutes. People running, screaming, cops coming from everywhere, it was complete tunnel vision for me. The lobby of the war memorial is all marble, granite and terrazzo so it echoed like a bazooka.
While against the wall no less than 10 cops had us standing there, in hand cuffs, scared to death. We were trying to explain what happened but no one, not even the nice cop we were dealing with would listen to us. One cop said to the old cop that shot the gun “what happened”? He said pointing to Renea and myself, these as*h***s brought a loaded gun in here. I saw my life flash before my eyes. I thought I was going to jail.

Just then bad goes to worse. I guy walks around the patrician wall bleeding from his calf. I heard someone say “he got hit”. I almost died. 2 seconds later another guy comes hopping on one foot with his shoe off, bleeding from the side of his foot. Blood was everywhere. It was like a nightmare.

You think that’s bad? Here comes a guy with his arms over the shoulders of 2 men. He has blood on his thigh.
3 birds, one stone!

Things are a little fuzzy for the next little bit but then the place looked like sept. 11th. Sheriffs, state troopers, firemen, EMS, uncover cops, every available cop or firemen in Fort Lauderdale showed up.

They had us standing against the wall behind the table the cops were sitting. They now had yellow police tape blocking Renea and I back there protecting the blood drops on the floor. We have now had 3 people shot, every cop in Florida looking at us like we are rapists. Apparently it’s a very big deal for a cop to accidently discharge a gun especially if someone is hit. Image 3 people! Now the gun show is closed for entry. There are a load of gun nuts 6 feet away from us on the other side of the tape. We got more dirty looks! We could hear what everyone was saying. I remember hearing someone say; this ******* started shooting and shot a couple of people, now we can’t go in! People were calling us names and giving us dirty looks. It was very scary.
Renea which is the absolute opposite of me. Never said a curse word in her life, Never had a ticket, never had a confrontation with police and now she is handcuffed, crying, and looking scared to death. I never felt so bad.
We were interviewed at least a dozen times by every department of law enforcement. After about an hour a guy walks in still in golf shoes. He was the Chief. He was the only decent guy out of the bunch. After he talked to everyone else he came over to us. I immediately said, “I’m so sorry this happened but I told him I didn’t know if it was loaded and he grabbed it”. The chief said, I know. The original cop inspecting the guns told him the story. The chief was very nice and sympathetic. He even said, “This is not your fault! I have told these guys for years this is a dangerous detail, they should have a barrel with sand to point the gun in. He then says look at the element in this place. I looked around and you have skin heads, covered in tattoos with m16’s, brothers with every tooth gold plated with AK47’s on their shoulders, then you have the guys in trench coats standing next to the local Hells Angels group.

We were given 4 of our 5 guns back and let go after about 4 hours of hell.

Turns out 2 people were hit with the bullet; the third was hit by a piece of terrazzo from when the bullet hit the floor. Thank god none were serious. I got a few letters about a law suit but nothing ever materialized. I know I have a depo coming up. I can't believe it took 4 years. I did hear the cop that shot the gun was only 3 months away from retirement. I guess he was in a lot of trouble over this. It’s a bad mark on his record and hurts his retirement. Apparently he put the wire tie around the trigger and the grip and pulled the wire tie tight with a pair of pliers. He never checked the chamber which had a round.
Just another chapter!
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Good grief if its something bad happening to someone it always happens to you. You just cant catch a break. Good luck with everything and hope it goes smoothly for you.
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Holy chit...thats a great story
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damn u are lucky, from reading poker runs mag about your life, thats a small step , i think your a great guy and good to the people around you. have a great day gino
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Unbelievable. If you do not know how to clear a weapon, you have no business picking it up....much less transporting it and carrying it to a gun show. The cop screwed up for sure but you are going to have liability in this as well. I am "blown away" that you would post all of this in a public forum with upcoming litigation. Thank god nothing worse happened. People that do not know how to handle weapons under thier control endanger everyone around them. I am not knocking you for not knowing how to operate a certain type of weapon, but you execised poor judgement by handling, transporting, and carrying a loaded weapon into a public place with signs plastered all over the walls "NO LOADED FIREARMS".
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Unbelievable. If you do not know how to clear a weapon, you have no business picking it up....much less transporting it and carrying it to a gun show. The cop screwed up for sure but you are going to have liability in this as well. I am "blown away" that you would post all of this in a public forum with upcoming litigation. Thank god nothing worse happened. People that do not know how to handle weapons under thier control endanger everyone around them. I am not knocking you for not knowing how to operate a certain type of weapon, but you execised poor judgement by handling, transporting, and carrying a loaded weapon into a public place with signs plastered all over the walls "NO LOADED FIREARMS".
Well i guess not everyone can be perfect like you and never make a mistake.
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Two people got shot. Sorry if its not politically correct. When it comes to gun safety....your ego needs to get checked at the door.
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Well i guess not everyone can be perfect like you and never make a mistake.
Agreed. Must be nice to be perfect.


BTW it was the dumb a** cop, who's duty to make sure the weapon was cleared, who pulled the trigger.


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Unbelievable. If you do not know how to clear a weapon, you have no business picking it up....much less transporting it and carrying it to a gun show. The cop screwed up for sure but you are going to have liability in this as well. I am "blown away" that you would post all of this in a public forum with upcoming litigation. Thank god nothing worse happened. People that do not know how to handle weapons under thier control endanger everyone around them. I am not knocking you for not knowing how to operate a certain type of weapon, but you execised poor judgement by handling, transporting, and carrying a loaded weapon into a public place with signs plastered all over the walls "NO LOADED FIREARMS".
Agreed! If you're going to pick it up, you better know everything about how to be safe with it. Not saying you're a bad person and deserve to be jailed, but the accident was a direct result of you handling a firearm you weren't qualified to handle. At the same time, I wouldn't hop behind the wheel of your MTI and push the throttles to 160mph on the first cruise. I don't have the experience and would cause danger to others by doing so.
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Well i guess not everyone can be perfect like you and never make a mistake.
Perfection is required when dealing with firearms. There is no room for error. You can't say "sorry I made a mistake" to someone you just accidentally killed. Beyond that, there is a large contingent of people in this country who wand to end the rights of people to own firearms. They say we're all unsafe rednecks who are on a course to kill people. We know that isn't true, but moments like this give them ammo to fire back with.
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