Like Tree9Likes

63' Bertram Possibly stuffed off SC???

Reply
Old 01-16-2010, 12:41 PM
  #101
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
Steve 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
My Boats: Slippery when wet!
Posts: 10,833
Default

But you know of course there are people trying to get it banned from marine use!
Steve 1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 12:50 PM
  #102
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
Steve 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
My Boats: Slippery when wet!
Posts: 10,833
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Dave View Post
Skater uses Balsa.
You use Foam.

Im arguing Balsa is a superior Core material for this application

You say its not.

Its not just me, the finest most long lived successful names in the industry use balsa for a reason.

Nothing you say changes this, and it has nothing to do with me.

UD
I thought I made myself Clear on This ?? OK again: Skater and Buzzi Yes they do use that material and Have earned the Knowledge with Expert Crews and finally they spend the money to do it right!! Like I said Buzzi gave me a lot of advice on this core.


Last edited by Steve 1; 01-16-2010 at 12:52 PM.
Steve 1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 01:04 PM
  #103
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: naples,florida
My Boats: 19'baron to name a few
Posts: 3,543
Default

Public Statement Recieved from Plaintiff

Bertram 630 "Absolutely"



Quote:
PUBLIC STATEMENT NO. 1
January 14, 2009

As owners of the 630 Bertram Sportfish ABSOLUTELY, which sank off South Carolina in the Atlantic Ocean November 6, 2009, we wish to inform the public and potential future purchasers of new Bertram 630 Sportfish yachts of our experience.

After pre-purchase marine survey, we purchased the ABSOLUTELY from MarineMax as a new yacht. We were informed that Bertram had transferred the vessel to MarineMax for resale, and that we were the first retail owners of this vessel.

MarineMax arranged delivery of the vessel by an employee of MarineMax, who is an experienced delivery Captain. During delivery of the vessel from New York to West Palm Beach, the ABSOLUTELY sank and became a total loss. The Captain and Mate escaped without significant injury.
The Captain reports that he was at the helm with the autopilot off at the time of the incident. He reports operating the vessel at approximately 25 knots in 3-4 foot following seas, when, upon entering a wave, the bow of the vessel folded back in catastrophic failure and the vessel came to an abrupt halt. The Captain and Mate suffered bruises and minor injuries. The Captain denies any physical contact with the reef buoy or any other solid object.

After the incident, the Captain reports making 4 mayday calls with positions within approximately 12 minutes, before he and the Mate abandoned the vessel from the stern and entered the vessel's life raft. The Captain reports the transom was intact without visible damage at the time. The Captain reports he and the Mate were picked up within approximately 5 minutes by the crew of the F/V PACIFICS. The PACIFICS steamed to meet a USCG vessel to which the Captain and Mate were transferred.

Later on November 6, a USCG helicopter reported no vessel visible at the last given position and a large debris field stretching to the southwest.
We purchased ABSOLUTELY for use as an offshore sportfisher at our resort hotel on the Seychelles Islands in the Indian Ocean. Due to the sinking, we have lost our investment in the vessel and incurred substantial consequential costs.

We were not aboard the ABSOLUTELY on the day of the incident, and we have no first hand knowledge whether the vessel suffered the failure by striking a 250 pound plastic buoy or suffered the failure by hitting a wave with the bow. Our marine surveyors and naval architects indicate that the post casualty photographs show manufacturing defects which caused or contributed to the loss of the vessel.

Accordingly, we took appropriate legal action against Bertram and MarineMax in the United States District Court.

We are a business and our focus is on the profitability of our resort hotel. We view litigation as an undesirable cost. We wanted Bertram to give us a comparable replacement vessel. We offered to drop our suit, if Bertram would give us a comparable replacement vessel. Our proposal would have protected the consumer and allowed the marine industry participants to litigate among themselves over the cause of the sinking.

Bertram refused to give us a comparable replacement vessel. Bertram then offered to sell us a demonstrator Bertram 630 with 800 hours on the engines for $1.8 million USD. Bertram continues to refuse to give us a replacement vessel.

Stephen Owen
Dhevatara Beach Seychelles, Ltd.
tommymonza is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 01:15 PM
  #104
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
Steve 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
My Boats: Slippery when wet!
Posts: 10,833
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tommymonza View Post
Public Statement Recieved from Plaintiff

Bertram 630 "Absolutely"



Quote:
PUBLIC STATEMENT NO. 1
January 14, 2009

As owners of the 630 Bertram Sportfish ABSOLUTELY, which sank off South Carolina in the Atlantic Ocean November 6, 2009, we wish to inform the public and potential future purchasers of new Bertram 630 Sportfish yachts of our experience.

After pre-purchase marine survey, we purchased the ABSOLUTELY from MarineMax as a new yacht. We were informed that Bertram had transferred the vessel to MarineMax for resale, and that we were the first retail owners of this vessel.

MarineMax arranged delivery of the vessel by an employee of MarineMax, who is an experienced delivery Captain. During delivery of the vessel from New York to West Palm Beach, the ABSOLUTELY sank and became a total loss. The Captain and Mate escaped without significant injury.
The Captain reports that he was at the helm with the autopilot off at the time of the incident. He reports operating the vessel at approximately 25 knots in 3-4 foot following seas, when, upon entering a wave, the bow of the vessel folded back in catastrophic failure and the vessel came to an abrupt halt. The Captain and Mate suffered bruises and minor injuries. The Captain denies any physical contact with the reef buoy or any other solid object.

After the incident, the Captain reports making 4 mayday calls with positions within approximately 12 minutes, before he and the Mate abandoned the vessel from the stern and entered the vessel's life raft. The Captain reports the transom was intact without visible damage at the time. The Captain reports he and the Mate were picked up within approximately 5 minutes by the crew of the F/V PACIFICS. The PACIFICS steamed to meet a USCG vessel to which the Captain and Mate were transferred.

Later on November 6, a USCG helicopter reported no vessel visible at the last given position and a large debris field stretching to the southwest.
We purchased ABSOLUTELY for use as an offshore sportfisher at our resort hotel on the Seychelles Islands in the Indian Ocean. Due to the sinking, we have lost our investment in the vessel and incurred substantial consequential costs.

We were not aboard the ABSOLUTELY on the day of the incident, and we have no first hand knowledge whether the vessel suffered the failure by striking a 250 pound plastic buoy or suffered the failure by hitting a wave with the bow. Our marine surveyors and naval architects indicate that the post casualty photographs show manufacturing defects which caused or contributed to the loss of the vessel.

Accordingly, we took appropriate legal action against Bertram and MarineMax in the United States District Court.

We are a business and our focus is on the profitability of our resort hotel. We view litigation as an undesirable cost. We wanted Bertram to give us a comparable replacement vessel. We offered to drop our suit, if Bertram would give us a comparable replacement vessel. Our proposal would have protected the consumer and allowed the marine industry participants to litigate among themselves over the cause of the sinking.

Bertram refused to give us a comparable replacement vessel. Bertram then offered to sell us a demonstrator Bertram 630 with 800 hours on the engines for $1.8 million USD. Bertram continues to refuse to give us a replacement vessel.

Stephen Owen
Dhevatara Beach Seychelles, Ltd.

Have they raised it yet?
Steve 1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 01:29 PM
  #105
Registered
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: naples,florida
My Boats: 19'baron to name a few
Posts: 3,543
Default

Nope
tommymonza is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 08:21 PM
  #106
Registered
 
Semper Fi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: SoCal
Posts: 4,234
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tommymonza View Post
Public Statement Recieved from Plaintiff

Bertram 630 "Absolutely"



Quote:
PUBLIC STATEMENT NO. 1
January 14, 2009

As owners of the 630 Bertram Sportfish ABSOLUTELY, which sank off South Carolina in the Atlantic Ocean November 6, 2009, we wish to inform the public and potential future purchasers of new Bertram 630 Sportfish yachts of our experience.

After pre-purchase marine survey, we purchased the ABSOLUTELY from MarineMax as a new yacht. We were informed that Bertram had transferred the vessel to MarineMax for resale, and that we were the first retail owners of this vessel.

MarineMax arranged delivery of the vessel by an employee of MarineMax, who is an experienced delivery Captain. During delivery of the vessel from New York to West Palm Beach, the ABSOLUTELY sank and became a total loss. The Captain and Mate escaped without significant injury.
The Captain reports that he was at the helm with the autopilot off at the time of the incident. He reports operating the vessel at approximately 25 knots in 3-4 foot following seas, when, upon entering a wave, the bow of the vessel folded back in catastrophic failure and the vessel came to an abrupt halt. The Captain and Mate suffered bruises and minor injuries. The Captain denies any physical contact with the reef buoy or any other solid object.

After the incident, the Captain reports making 4 mayday calls with positions within approximately 12 minutes, before he and the Mate abandoned the vessel from the stern and entered the vessel's life raft. The Captain reports the transom was intact without visible damage at the time. The Captain reports he and the Mate were picked up within approximately 5 minutes by the crew of the F/V PACIFICS. The PACIFICS steamed to meet a USCG vessel to which the Captain and Mate were transferred.

Later on November 6, a USCG helicopter reported no vessel visible at the last given position and a large debris field stretching to the southwest.
We purchased ABSOLUTELY for use as an offshore sportfisher at our resort hotel on the Seychelles Islands in the Indian Ocean. Due to the sinking, we have lost our investment in the vessel and incurred substantial consequential costs.

We were not aboard the ABSOLUTELY on the day of the incident, and we have no first hand knowledge whether the vessel suffered the failure by striking a 250 pound plastic buoy or suffered the failure by hitting a wave with the bow. Our marine surveyors and naval architects indicate that the post casualty photographs show manufacturing defects which caused or contributed to the loss of the vessel.

Accordingly, we took appropriate legal action against Bertram and MarineMax in the United States District Court.

We are a business and our focus is on the profitability of our resort hotel. We view litigation as an undesirable cost. We wanted Bertram to give us a comparable replacement vessel. We offered to drop our suit, if Bertram would give us a comparable replacement vessel. Our proposal would have protected the consumer and allowed the marine industry participants to litigate among themselves over the cause of the sinking.

Bertram refused to give us a comparable replacement vessel. Bertram then offered to sell us a demonstrator Bertram 630 with 800 hours on the engines for $1.8 million USD. Bertram continues to refuse to give us a replacement vessel.

Stephen Owen
Dhevatara Beach Seychelles, Ltd.

WOW! The proposed new "owner" of the boat, Mr. Stephen Owen seems to be a very cool guy by his statement - he's giving Bertram a chance to replace the boat and Betram wants to sell him another boat for $1.8M?? If this is true that's absolutely rediculous.

I'm no attorney, but Mr. Owen never even took posession of the boat and now it's a total loss, how can anyone but betram be responsible for the loss?
Semper Fi is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 09:08 PM
  #107
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
Steve 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
My Boats: Slippery when wet!
Posts: 10,833
Default

Semper

Also for this kind of money the Boat should be raised and examined by Hired Professionals , representing the Parties from both sides of this.
Steve 1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 09:25 PM
  #108
Registered
Platinum Member
 
Comanche3Six's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 9,273
Default

An expensive endeavor any way you look at it. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. Bertram was always noted for tough boats.........Was that under different ownership?
Comanche3Six is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 09:33 PM
  #109
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
Steve 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
My Boats: Slippery when wet!
Posts: 10,833
Default

Last I knew they were Owned By Farretti.
Steve 1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 01-16-2010, 09:35 PM
  #110
Platinum Member
Platinum Member
 
Steve 1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Beautiful Fort Lauderdale www.cheetahcat.com
My Boats: Slippery when wet!
Posts: 10,833
Default

http://www.ferrettigroup.com/I9march...S/Default.aspx here is the link.
Steve 1 is offline  
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:19 AM.


Copyright 2011 OffShoreOnly. All rights reserved.