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Here's a link, I hate to think what will happen to the reefs.

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If their is any doubt as to the "accountability" you need to watch the 60 mins interview. Some of the BP people should go to JAIL along with some Transocean cronies. It is clear that they DID and DO not care about protecting us. The blow out was not working, the back up was not working , the seal had come up the pipe days earlier, they knew all of this and continued. Then the BP management, ordered transocean to change their protocal and cap the well incorrectly.

I bet this would have never happen off their own coast!!!!!

If BP doesn't get a move on this could close them down. It makes me sick, that these jerk offs can maek so much in profit and care so little about OUR ENVIROMENT, time to kick BP out of the US.
It's typical corporate behavior, hated all my years with corporations.
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If their is any doubt as to the "accountability" you need to watch the 60 mins interview. Some of the BP people should go to JAIL along with some Transocean cronies. It is clear that they DID and DO not care about protecting us. The blow out was not working, the back up was not working , the seal had come up the pipe days earlier, they knew all of this and continued. Then the BP management, ordered transocean to change their protocal and cap the well incorrectly.

I bet this would have never happen off their own coast!!!!!

If BP doesn't get a move on this could close them down. It makes me sick, that these jerk offs can maek so much in profit and care so little about OUR ENVIROMENT, time to kick BP out of the US.
Damn right.

The supreme court recently ruled that corporations have the same rights as 'individuals'. That chit needs to go both ways.
Nothing short of jail time is acceptable- this just makes me sick to my stomach.

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Angry Atlantis: Another ticking time bomb in the Gulf

by Meg White

There's a time-honored tradition of lawmakers reacting to a tragedy by hauling responsible parties before C-SPAN, telling them how naughty they've been and making them promise this will never happen again. Such is the case with the Deepwater Horizon rig explosion. But after a fortnight of hearings, are we ignoring a potential time bomb called Atlantis?

In their objections to the high expectations of clean-up efforts in the wake of the Deepwater Horizon disaster, BP and Transocean Ltd. have stressed that they've been hampered by the fact that they're working at a depth of 5,000 feet below the surface of the Gulf of Mexico. So when officials brought to their attention that another rig -- this one some one hundred miles further out and 2,000 feet further underwater -- has the potential to "lead to catastrophic operator error," what does BP do?

Ignore it. Or better yet, quiet the whole thing up. According to the Associated Press, BP hired a company in 2009 to investigate its employee complaints of violations of its own procedures by not having complete engineering documents on a rig called Atlantis:

Engineering documents -- covering everything from safety shutdown systems to blowout preventers -- are meant to be roadmaps for safely starting and halting production on the huge offshore platform.

Running an oil rig with flawed and missing documentation is like cooking a dinner without a complete recipe, said University of California, Berkeley engineering professor Robert Bea, an oil pipeline expert who has been reviewing the whistle-blower allegations and studied the Gulf blowout.

"This is symptomatic of a sick system. This kind of sloppiness is what leads to disasters," he said. "The sloppiness on the industry side and on the government side. It's a shared problem."

BP and the Minerals and Management Service, which regulates oil drilling, did not respond to calls from the AP seeking comment on the whistle-blower allegations.

Back in February, members of Congress called for MMS to investigate the problem, which affects 85 percent of the piping and instrument designs and more than 95 percent of the welding specifications. Yesterday, the whistleblower behind the allegations filed suit against the company, saying that problems with the Atlantis rig could cause a disaster that would "dwarf" the Deepwater Horizon's devastation.

But it's clear that Congress is concentrating on the disaster at hand, as the sunken Deepwater Horizon rig continues to pump untold amounts of oil into the Gulf. With each hearing we learn how ill prepared BP was for a rescue and clean-up operation at such extreme depths.

At one of the first congressional hearings on the spill, senators from both sides of the aisle criticized BP's readiness for the disaster:

Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) noted that it took BP "several weeks to construct" the dome they used to try and funnel the gushing oil to a pipe on the surface (an effort that ultimately failed). Lamar McKay, BP America's president, said that it would have been "impossible to predict" the need for such equipment, but Sessions remain unconvinced.

"Shouldn't you have anticipated that these types of things occur?" he asked. "Maybe we have become a bit too complacent in the work that we're doing here."

[New Jersey Sen. Robert] Menendez apparently agreed with Sessions' conclusion about BP's readiness.

"What I see is not a company prepared to confront a worst-case scenario," he said. "I don't get the sense that you were truly prepared. I get the sense that your making this up as you go along."

For Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR), BP's ineptitude was merely part of the historical context of the company, which has had a "series of horrific accidents over a number of years."

"In each case... the company always says the same thing: 'We're going to toughen up our standards,'" Wyden said. "The culture of this company is that there's been one accident after another."

This begs the question: If the Deepwater Horizon was worse than BP's worst-case scenario, and if the difficulties arising from it stem at least partly from the fact that the rig is so deep and far from shore, wouldn't that mean that a deeper, further-from-shore rig with "significant" red flags merits serious concern?

There is mounting anecdotal evidence that the oil industry, while pumping billions of dollars into research and development projects designed to get at oil reserves which are deeper and more difficult to access, a similar investment has not been made to beef up the safety of this new category of drilling. From the Christian Science Monitor:

...the task of supplying the world's oil amid dwindling reserves is becoming ever-more complex -- and dangerous -- despite technological advancements.

"Deep water drilling is already a high-stakes casino and as geologic risk, capital risk, market risk and engineering risk all come together, they are becoming extraordinarily difficult to quantify," says Robert Bryce, an energy expert at the Manhattan Institute and author of the upcoming book "Power Hungry: The myths of 'green' energy and the real fuels of the future."

The criticism that oil companies have shorted investment in new safety technology came up at a recent House hearing on Deepwater Horizon:

Under criticism over their inability to stop the rig from leaking, BP's defense has largely been that techniques that have failed (and the ones that are about to be tried) have never been employed at 5,000 feet of water.

This excuse prompted Rep. Betty Sutton (D-OH) to question whether the economic inputs into the technology required to extract oil from deep in the ocean have been matched when it comes to investing in safety.

"The necessary investment to develop safety measures... were not adequately advanced," she said in her opening statement. "Safety must come first and investment in it must match" investment in extraction...

Rep. Edward Markey (D-MA) criticized a certification from BP prior to the disaster that asserted the company could deal with a spill leaking up to 250,000 barrels of oil a day. The Deepwater Horizon rig is spilling an estimated 5,000 barrels a day, which Markey noted is but 2 percent of the "worst-case scenario" that BP had promised the government that they could handle.

"Mr. McKay, you'd better rethink your certification," said Markey. "There are rigs all over the gulf that are ticking time bombs."

...The disaster did earn one -- perhaps temporary -- convert to the anti-deepwater offshore drilling team. Rep. Charlie Melancon (D-LA) opened his line of questioning by admitting that he has been a long-time supporter of oil and gas, and thanked his colleagues for having thus far "refrained from saying 'I told you so.'" He said he still supported shallow water drilling, but added that he cannot "with a good heart encourage the continuation of deepwater until I know that all safety precautions are there."

But is the suspense killing us? Though the spill is almost a month old, Congress has not yet tired of such hearings. It seems each lawmaker must have at least one opportunity to berate Big Oil (for Democrats) or Big Government (for Republicans) for their responsibility for the mess. Meanwhile, Deepwater Horizon continues to pump oil into the ocean, and the Atlantis oil rig hangs like a huge question mark over the sea floor.

So, while changes to the cozy business-as-usual atmosphere at MMS are a great start, and while getting down to the causes of the Deepwater Horizon disaster are important, Congress should take a moment to renew the call for an investigation of the Atlantis rig, before it's too late (again).

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Oh, I feel better now.


The chief executive of BP tells Sky News he believes the massive Gulf of Mexico oil spill will end up having only a "very, very modest" environmental impact.

Experts had feared the Deepwater Horizon disaster could have led to one of the worst environmental catastrophes in U.S. history.

But the British oil giant has risked outrage along the Gulf Coast by predicting a far smaller impact.

"I think the environmental impact of this disaster is likely to have been very, very modest," Tony Hayward said. "It is impossible to say and we will mount, as part of the aftermath, a very detailed environmental assessment but everything we can see at the moment suggests that the overall environmental impact will be very, very modest."

BP has begun capturing some of the leaking oil after inserting a suction tube into the fractured riser pipe on the seabed.

It is gathering up an estimated one fifth of the oil pumping out of the fractured well.

"Over the last 36 hours we have made a lot of progress on containment on the seabed," Hayward said. "We have a piece of technology engineering which we have developed and which is now allowing us to produce oil from the leak to the surface."

The BP chief spoke to Sky News after completing a visit to Florida where he handed over $25 million to pay for an advertising campaign for the state's tourism industry.

He appeared upbeat as he met teams at BP's vast crisis control center in Houston.

The center has been working around the clock for more than three weeks trying to identify solutions to the crisis.

The company believes the next stage of its response effort could see the leak sealed completely within seven to 10 days if all goes to plan.
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BP made 6 Billion the first quarter and has spent 500 million so far.It was their decision to pull the drilling mud which led to this point in time.
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Although it was in planning before the accident, Transocean is preparing to pay out a billion dollars in stockholder dividends soon.

What pizzes me off more than anything, is that these companies have made a TON of cash from our habitat, our planet... while continually showing disdain for regulations and safety measures as they pocket billions upon billions. Now, when they need to really move their azzes and do something, it seems like they are more interested in getting the best possible spin than actually fixing the problem.

Indy really nailed it in his remark about corporations.
I feel exactly the same way. Don't miss that hypocritical chit one little bit.
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BP made 6 Billion the first quarter and has spent 500 million so far.It was their decision to pull the drilling mud which led to this point in time.
Exactly so Mr. Koss. Because BP wanted to speed up the plugging, they bullied TransOcean into pulling the mud before the last plug was put in place, thus creating that giant gas stream that destroyed the rig and killed 11 good men. They are CRIMINALS and should be tried in a court of law for their crimes.
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