JBS turbines explode!
07-26-2010 | 11:40 PM
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St Clair
The delam happened in the same spot that it was repaired.An attempt was made to patch the problem for the race but we decided that it wasn't going to be safe.The entire JBS racing crew is extremely bummed that we didn't get to slay some gecko ass for St Clair.
07-27-2010 | 05:20 AM
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My opinion on how a boat race should be run has been posted many times but i will try this again
I think that the key to success is TV and an event atmosphere. It is more important than a roundy round race course
When the races were run here in Grand Haven Michigan in the 80's the boats ran a course that was something like a 30 mile circle course. There were almost 400,000 spectators on water and land and the sea of spectator boats was phenomenal even though the race boats only passed by a few times during the race. The weekend was full of events and lots of people walking the dry pits and the wet pits and the action that we could see from a boat on the water was great since these guys were running true offshore conditions on a long course (No roundy round) The event was covered on TV and had lots of press.
People come out for the activity and fun not just to see boats go roundy round
When you watch racing of any type it is about the EVENT! It is about the characters , the location, the boats, the weather, the water ,ect... and oh by the way there was a race
Look at the Kentucky Derby, it is a 3 minute race, but it is a weeklong event. Look at the Tour De France, people come out in droves to watch the bikes go by ONE TIME but it is all about the TV coverage and the party atmosphere. The Iditarod dogs run in nasty conditions and again watched by millions on TV and hundreds of thousands that go out to watch them blow buy ONCE
Our poker run had thousands come out to watch the boats and they only came and went twice into the channel but there was plenty of hype, no TV but it had the ever present EVENT atmosphere and thousands came out to an event, that for the most part, was focused on the participants and the Make A Wish kids still people put it on their calendar just to come see the boats and the people and the EVENT not the actual running since we ran 140 mile course
my opinion for success is this
1) A true OFFSHORE RACE - none of this roundy round crap
2) Good TV Coverage with good knowledgeable commentators and coverage of characters, events and locations
3) Just a few classes -To many classes just confuse the fans
4) Make it a 4 or 5 day event with music, car shows, poker run, boat shows ect....
5) Stop thinking it is about the race. It IS About The EVENT
6) Unity in race organizations
7) Great location that can handle many components of an EVENT
I have been involved in putting on races and poker runs in the past, and I have discussed putting on another race here (a true OFFSHORE RACE) Until we realize the racing itself is just a small component of the entire event we will not get where we need to go. Contrary to what is popular, I do not believe you need a spectator friendly course to have success. You need to have an event that makes people just want to be around the atmosphere in general. And Oh Yea there is a boat race
a little Video of Grand Haven Races in the late 80's
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3xr-3gVEEw[/youtube]
Picture of spectator boats
I think that the key to success is TV and an event atmosphere. It is more important than a roundy round race course
When the races were run here in Grand Haven Michigan in the 80's the boats ran a course that was something like a 30 mile circle course. There were almost 400,000 spectators on water and land and the sea of spectator boats was phenomenal even though the race boats only passed by a few times during the race. The weekend was full of events and lots of people walking the dry pits and the wet pits and the action that we could see from a boat on the water was great since these guys were running true offshore conditions on a long course (No roundy round) The event was covered on TV and had lots of press.
People come out for the activity and fun not just to see boats go roundy round
When you watch racing of any type it is about the EVENT! It is about the characters , the location, the boats, the weather, the water ,ect... and oh by the way there was a race
Look at the Kentucky Derby, it is a 3 minute race, but it is a weeklong event. Look at the Tour De France, people come out in droves to watch the bikes go by ONE TIME but it is all about the TV coverage and the party atmosphere. The Iditarod dogs run in nasty conditions and again watched by millions on TV and hundreds of thousands that go out to watch them blow buy ONCE
Our poker run had thousands come out to watch the boats and they only came and went twice into the channel but there was plenty of hype, no TV but it had the ever present EVENT atmosphere and thousands came out to an event, that for the most part, was focused on the participants and the Make A Wish kids still people put it on their calendar just to come see the boats and the people and the EVENT not the actual running since we ran 140 mile course
my opinion for success is this
1) A true OFFSHORE RACE - none of this roundy round crap
2) Good TV Coverage with good knowledgeable commentators and coverage of characters, events and locations
3) Just a few classes -To many classes just confuse the fans
4) Make it a 4 or 5 day event with music, car shows, poker run, boat shows ect....
5) Stop thinking it is about the race. It IS About The EVENT
6) Unity in race organizations
7) Great location that can handle many components of an EVENT
I have been involved in putting on races and poker runs in the past, and I have discussed putting on another race here (a true OFFSHORE RACE) Until we realize the racing itself is just a small component of the entire event we will not get where we need to go. Contrary to what is popular, I do not believe you need a spectator friendly course to have success. You need to have an event that makes people just want to be around the atmosphere in general. And Oh Yea there is a boat race
a little Video of Grand Haven Races in the late 80's
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3xr-3gVEEw[/youtube]
Picture of spectator boats
Last edited by boatme; 07-27-2010 at 05:23 AM.
07-27-2010 | 05:50 AM
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My opinion on how a boat race should be run has been posted many times but i will try this again
I think that the key to success is TV and an event atmosphere. It is more important than a roundy round race course
When the races were run here in Grand Haven Michigan in the 80's the boats ran a course that was something like a 30 mile circle course. There were almost 400,000 spectators on water and land and the sea of spectator boats was phenomenal even though the race boats only passed by a few times during the race. The weekend was full of events and lots of people walking the dry pits and the wet pits and the action that we could see from a boat on the water was great since these guys were running true offshore conditions on a long course (No roundy round) The event was covered on TV and had lots of press.
People come out for the activity and fun not just to see boats go roundy round
When you watch racing of any type it is about the EVENT! It is about the characters , the location, the boats, the weather, the water ,ect... and oh by the way there was a race
Look at the Kentucky Derby, it is a 3 minute race, but it is a weeklong event. Look at the Tour De France, people come out in droves to watch the bikes go by ONE TIME but it is all about the TV coverage and the party atmosphere. The Iditarod dogs run in nasty conditions and again watched by millions on TV and hundreds of thousands that go out to watch them blow buy ONCE
Our poker run had thousands come out to watch the boats and they only came and went twice into the channel but there was plenty of hype, no TV but it had the ever present EVENT atmosphere and thousands came out to an event, that for the most part, was focused on the participants and the Make A Wish kids still people put it on their calendar just to come see the boats and the people and the EVENT not the actual running since we ran 140 mile course
my opinion for success is this
1) A true OFFSHORE RACE - none of this roundy round crap
2) Good TV Coverage with good knowledgeable commentators and coverage of characters, events and locations
3) Just a few classes -To many classes just confuse the fans
4) Make it a 4 or 5 day event with music, car shows, poker run, boat shows ect....
5) Stop thinking it is about the race. It IS About The EVENT
6) Unity in race organizations
7) Great location that can handle many components of an EVENT
I have been involved in putting on races and poker runs in the past, and I have discussed putting on another race here (a true OFFSHORE RACE) Until we realize the racing itself is just a small component of the entire event we will not get where we need to go. Contrary to what is popular, I do not believe you need a spectator friendly course to have success. You need to have an event that makes people just want to be around the atmosphere in general. And Oh Yea there is a boat race
a little Video of Grand Haven Races in the late 80's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3xr-3gVEEw
Picture of spectator boats
I think that the key to success is TV and an event atmosphere. It is more important than a roundy round race course
When the races were run here in Grand Haven Michigan in the 80's the boats ran a course that was something like a 30 mile circle course. There were almost 400,000 spectators on water and land and the sea of spectator boats was phenomenal even though the race boats only passed by a few times during the race. The weekend was full of events and lots of people walking the dry pits and the wet pits and the action that we could see from a boat on the water was great since these guys were running true offshore conditions on a long course (No roundy round) The event was covered on TV and had lots of press.
People come out for the activity and fun not just to see boats go roundy round
When you watch racing of any type it is about the EVENT! It is about the characters , the location, the boats, the weather, the water ,ect... and oh by the way there was a race
Look at the Kentucky Derby, it is a 3 minute race, but it is a weeklong event. Look at the Tour De France, people come out in droves to watch the bikes go by ONE TIME but it is all about the TV coverage and the party atmosphere. The Iditarod dogs run in nasty conditions and again watched by millions on TV and hundreds of thousands that go out to watch them blow buy ONCE
Our poker run had thousands come out to watch the boats and they only came and went twice into the channel but there was plenty of hype, no TV but it had the ever present EVENT atmosphere and thousands came out to an event, that for the most part, was focused on the participants and the Make A Wish kids still people put it on their calendar just to come see the boats and the people and the EVENT not the actual running since we ran 140 mile course
my opinion for success is this
1) A true OFFSHORE RACE - none of this roundy round crap
2) Good TV Coverage with good knowledgeable commentators and coverage of characters, events and locations
3) Just a few classes -To many classes just confuse the fans
4) Make it a 4 or 5 day event with music, car shows, poker run, boat shows ect....
5) Stop thinking it is about the race. It IS About The EVENT
6) Unity in race organizations
7) Great location that can handle many components of an EVENT
I have been involved in putting on races and poker runs in the past, and I have discussed putting on another race here (a true OFFSHORE RACE) Until we realize the racing itself is just a small component of the entire event we will not get where we need to go. Contrary to what is popular, I do not believe you need a spectator friendly course to have success. You need to have an event that makes people just want to be around the atmosphere in general. And Oh Yea there is a boat race
a little Video of Grand Haven Races in the late 80's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3xr-3gVEEw
Picture of spectator boats
07-27-2010 | 06:06 AM
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My opinion on how a boat race should be run has been posted many times but i will try this again
I think that the key to success is TV and an event atmosphere. It is more important than a roundy round race course
When the races were run here in Grand Haven Michigan in the 80's the boats ran a course that was something like a 30 mile circle course. There were almost 400,000 spectators on water and land and the sea of spectator boats was phenomenal even though the race boats only passed by a few times during the race. The weekend was full of events and lots of people walking the dry pits and the wet pits and the action that we could see from a boat on the water was great since these guys were running true offshore conditions on a long course (No roundy round) The event was covered on TV and had lots of press.
People come out for the activity and fun not just to see boats go roundy round
When you watch racing of any type it is about the EVENT! It is about the characters , the location, the boats, the weather, the water ,ect... and oh by the way there was a race
Look at the Kentucky Derby, it is a 3 minute race, but it is a weeklong event. Look at the Tour De France, people come out in droves to watch the bikes go by ONE TIME but it is all about the TV coverage and the party atmosphere. The Iditarod dogs run in nasty conditions and again watched by millions on TV and hundreds of thousands that go out to watch them blow buy ONCE
Our poker run had thousands come out to watch the boats and they only came and went twice into the channel but there was plenty of hype, no TV but it had the ever present EVENT atmosphere and thousands came out to an event, that for the most part, was focused on the participants and the Make A Wish kids still people put it on their calendar just to come see the boats and the people and the EVENT not the actual running since we ran 140 mile course
my opinion for success is this
1) A true OFFSHORE RACE - none of this roundy round crap
2) Good TV Coverage with good knowledgeable commentators and coverage of characters, events and locations
3) Just a few classes -To many classes just confuse the fans
4) Make it a 4 or 5 day event with music, car shows, poker run, boat shows ect....
5) Stop thinking it is about the race. It IS About The EVENT
6) Unity in race organizations
7) Great location that can handle many components of an EVENT
I have been involved in putting on races and poker runs in the past, and I have discussed putting on another race here (a true OFFSHORE RACE) Until we realize the racing itself is just a small component of the entire event we will not get where we need to go. Contrary to what is popular, I do not believe you need a spectator friendly course to have success. You need to have an event that makes people just want to be around the atmosphere in general. And Oh Yea there is a boat race
a little Video of Grand Haven Races in the late 80's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3xr-3gVEEw
Picture of spectator boats
I think that the key to success is TV and an event atmosphere. It is more important than a roundy round race course
When the races were run here in Grand Haven Michigan in the 80's the boats ran a course that was something like a 30 mile circle course. There were almost 400,000 spectators on water and land and the sea of spectator boats was phenomenal even though the race boats only passed by a few times during the race. The weekend was full of events and lots of people walking the dry pits and the wet pits and the action that we could see from a boat on the water was great since these guys were running true offshore conditions on a long course (No roundy round) The event was covered on TV and had lots of press.
People come out for the activity and fun not just to see boats go roundy round
When you watch racing of any type it is about the EVENT! It is about the characters , the location, the boats, the weather, the water ,ect... and oh by the way there was a race
Look at the Kentucky Derby, it is a 3 minute race, but it is a weeklong event. Look at the Tour De France, people come out in droves to watch the bikes go by ONE TIME but it is all about the TV coverage and the party atmosphere. The Iditarod dogs run in nasty conditions and again watched by millions on TV and hundreds of thousands that go out to watch them blow buy ONCE
Our poker run had thousands come out to watch the boats and they only came and went twice into the channel but there was plenty of hype, no TV but it had the ever present EVENT atmosphere and thousands came out to an event, that for the most part, was focused on the participants and the Make A Wish kids still people put it on their calendar just to come see the boats and the people and the EVENT not the actual running since we ran 140 mile course
my opinion for success is this
1) A true OFFSHORE RACE - none of this roundy round crap
2) Good TV Coverage with good knowledgeable commentators and coverage of characters, events and locations
3) Just a few classes -To many classes just confuse the fans
4) Make it a 4 or 5 day event with music, car shows, poker run, boat shows ect....
5) Stop thinking it is about the race. It IS About The EVENT
6) Unity in race organizations
7) Great location that can handle many components of an EVENT
I have been involved in putting on races and poker runs in the past, and I have discussed putting on another race here (a true OFFSHORE RACE) Until we realize the racing itself is just a small component of the entire event we will not get where we need to go. Contrary to what is popular, I do not believe you need a spectator friendly course to have success. You need to have an event that makes people just want to be around the atmosphere in general. And Oh Yea there is a boat race
a little Video of Grand Haven Races in the late 80's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3xr-3gVEEw
Picture of spectator boats
That was a great race. I used to love going to all the races as a kid. Grand Haven, Bay City, Northport all great races with big turnouts!
07-27-2010 | 07:01 AM
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07-27-2010 | 07:31 AM
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For a "different completely different" experience and a boat that is "dependably dependable", that won't "delaminate with repeated delamination", and is built by the guy who actually "designed it with his own designs" whose experience includes hundreds of hulls rather than a handful.......... buy a Skater.
Last edited by T2x; 07-27-2010 at 07:33 AM.
07-27-2010 | 07:39 AM
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Jeff - really sorry you guys had issues this weekend. You guys have tons of people who wish you nothing but good luck. Hope things get worked out for you
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07-27-2010 | 08:51 AM
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This is my idea of race day in KW, since I won;t have my own boat.
http://www.furycat.com/key-west/powerboat-races.htm
Includes beer too
http://www.furycat.com/key-west/powerboat-races.htm
Includes beer too
07-27-2010 | 08:58 AM
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I agree.....
For a "different completely different" experience and a boat that is "dependably dependable", that won't "delaminate with repeated delamination", and is built by the guy who actually "designed it with his own designs" whose experience includes hundreds of hulls rather than a handful.......... buy a Skater.
For a "different completely different" experience and a boat that is "dependably dependable", that won't "delaminate with repeated delamination", and is built by the guy who actually "designed it with his own designs" whose experience includes hundreds of hulls rather than a handful.......... buy a Skater.
07-27-2010 | 09:15 AM
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This is my idea of race day in KW, since I won;t have my own boat.
http://www.furycat.com/key-west/powerboat-races.htm
Includes beer too
http://www.furycat.com/key-west/powerboat-races.htm
Includes beer too
