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Are we allowed to speculate without running the thread into a brick wall? We shouldn't start thinking out loud and then see this poofed.
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QUOTE JBS Racing
"Each turbine grenaded for different completely different reasons" Well there you go............ the old "Different completely different" gremlin strikes again...... And it seems that really technical completely technical reports have been written as well...... This is without question an inverted testicular compilation of juxtaposed expertize coupled with a secret hidden secret agenda of nearly lillipution dimensions and intellect. It happens a lot when the fairly capable lead the bedazzled. I could translate this.......but then I'd have to kill ya! |
Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3162687)
QUOTE JBS Racing
"Each turbine grenaded for different completely different reasons" Well there you go............ the old "Different completely different" gremlin strikes again...... And it seems that really technical completely technical reports have been written as well...... This is without question an inverted testicular compilation of juxtaposed expertize coupled with a secret hidden secret agenda of nearly lillipution dimensions and intellect. It happens a lot when the fairly capable lead the bedazzled. I could translate this.......but then I'd have to kill ya! |
Originally Posted by runningtabs
(Post 3161835)
Didn't they turn geico up and turn JBS down in key west 2008?that's ****ed up
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Originally Posted by phragle
(Post 3162548)
What I find ironic is that even if true, well especially if true, Gieco with their budget has gone to another turbine builder. Why? when your faster than anybody else why change? If your happy with product, price and support and are on top, why change? When you can crack 200 at will, nobodies chasing you and its running good why change?
Even if 4 new turbine mystic teams appeared tomorrow, it would still be a while before any really became a threat to Gieco, simply because of the testing, r&d, setup knowledge they have aquired over the last couple of years not to mention the seat time Mongo and Precious have in a turbine at speed. I think Marc is more comfortable running 180 in the boat than he is buying a slurpee at speedway.... On a given day skill can beat knowledge or knowledge can beat skill... when you have both... . the reason geico left is quite obvious if you just look at jbs's track record under arruda's care. next all that this proves it with alot of $$$$$$$ you can buy a world champ trophy especially when your racing in a class by yourself. |
Originally Posted by purrfection
(Post 3162713)
It's strange that runningtabs posted this speculation? and then disappeared from the thread.
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Originally Posted by skaterdave
(Post 3162730)
phragle stop the geico stroke-fest.
Originally Posted by skaterdave
(Post 3162730)
the reason geico left is quite obvious if you just look at jbs's track record under arruda's care.
Originally Posted by skaterdave
(Post 3162730)
next all that this proves it with alot of $$$$$$$ you can buy a world champ trophy especially when your racing in a class by yourself.
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Originally Posted by skaterdave
(Post 3162730)
next all that this proves it with alot of $$$$$$$ you can buy a world champ trophy especially when your racing in a class by yourself. |
I'd lie to see GEICO, JBS and other take their turbines, buy some hulls and get involved in unlimited hydros. At least they have enough boats to run a one class race vs. this turbine cat crap.
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I think in the racing section JBS has said they plan to make St Claire? I'd love to see Geico actually race someone!
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Originally Posted by T2x
(Post 3162687)
QUOTE JBS Racing
"Each turbine grenaded for different completely different reasons" Well there you go............ the old "Different completely different" gremlin strikes again...... And it seems that really technical completely technical reports have been written as well...... This is without question an inverted testicular compilation of juxtaposed expertize coupled with a secret hidden secret agenda of nearly lillipution dimensions and intellect. It happens a lot when the fairly capable lead the bedazzled. I could translate this.......but then I'd have to kill ya! Do the Men in Black know you are visiting our planet? |
Originally Posted by offshoredrillin
(Post 3162753)
Who mentioned Fountain?:grinser010:
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Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT
(Post 3162658)
Arrudas where he is Because of a very generous man by the name of John Haggan:drink: he sold more turbines and fixed them before AMF/GEICO had a turbine boat...just saying.....i may be wrong, but don't think so. :party-smiley-004: |
Originally Posted by tomtbone1993
(Post 3162856)
atleast they show up....that is more than we can say about that boat company that starts with a C and ends with a E.........:lolhit::lolhit:
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Originally Posted by tomtbone1993
(Post 3162856)
atleast they show up....that is more than we can say about that boat company that starts with a C and ends with a E.........:lolhit::lolhit:
Which one......Checkmate, Cole or Crownline? :drink::drink: |
What exactly happened to the motors? To say they "blew up", what exactly does that mean. I wasn't aware they could blow like a piston motor. If they did blow, how did they get fixed so quickly? I don't know much about turbines. For year I have had several people tell me constantly that I need turbines a d my worries will be over.
I am very curious as ton what can happen to them and what's entitled in what it takes to repair them. |
Here's my 2¢......
Turbine Marine does some of the most professional work I have ever seen! Just beautiful! http://www.turbinemarine.com/project_JBS.html |
Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 3162968)
Here's my 2¢......
Turbine Marine does some of the most professional work I have ever seen! Just beautiful! http://www.turbinemarine.com/project_JBS.html Are there really only two boats in the class? |
Originally Posted by VtSteve
(Post 3163053)
This is becoming too much of an ad.
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Originally Posted by VtSteve
(Post 3163053)
This is becoming too much of an ad. Oh Wait, they blew up.
Are there really only two boats in the class? |
????????????
If you want Gas Turbines in your boat you should look around........................
http://www.nebraskagasturbine.com/ http://www.whisperingturbines.com/ You want someone ASA certified, I think thats right....FAA stuff. Since this is an add?? |
Originally Posted by blume
(Post 3163109)
If you want Gas Turbines in your boat you should look around........................
http://www.nebraskagasturbine.com/ http://www.whisperingturbines.com/ You want someone ASA certified, I think thats right....FAA stuff. Since this is an add?? A certified FAA commercial t5313 b would be in the neighborhood of $650,000 USD each. Turbines used in boats are not flight worthy Turbines. |
Originally Posted by Interceptor
(Post 3162755)
I'd lie to see GEICO, JBS and other take their turbines, buy some hulls and get involved in unlimited hydros. At least they have enough boats to run a one class race vs. this turbine cat crap.
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So are we going to hear more about the exploding turbines and smoking gun?
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Smoking gun
Everyone will see and hear about the smoking gun.we are documenting everything as thoroughly as we can-not only for our own piece of mind but for criminal lawsuit.This story has taken some unbelievable twist and turns and uncovered more and more ****ed up ****.The next step at this point is depositions then we will be presenting our case.This is a case we are not going to lose.right now this isolated incident has cost me personally over $150k and $20k in lost sponsorship (so far).I've been forced to take out loans against my equipment to pay for this.
Obviosly everyone will see JBS running strong without anything holding us back from this point foreword-it's a huge relief for me and my team-back to the JBS racing that we know we are-fully functional,fully capable,and fully motivated to kick ass! |
Originally Posted by KNOT-RIGHT
(Post 3163239)
Right on Blume!!!!Big difference in a Faa certified shops.
A certified FAA commercial t5313 b would be in the neighborhood of $650,000 USD each. Turbines used in boats are not flight worthy Turbines. |
Originally Posted by JBS
(Post 3163319)
Everyone will see and hear about the smoking gun.we are documenting everything as thoroughly as we can-not only for our own piece of mind but for criminal lawsuit.This story has taken some unbelievable twist and turns and uncovered more and more ****ed up ****.The next step at this point is depositions then we will be presenting our case.This is a case we are not going to lose.right now this isolated incident has cost me personally over $150k and $20k in lost sponsorship (so far).I've been forced to take out loans against my equipment to pay for this.
Obviosly everyone will see JBS running strong without anything holding us back from this point foreword-it's a huge relief for me and my team-back to the JBS racing that we know we are-fully functional,fully capable,and fully motivated to kick ass! |
Originally Posted by bill63
(Post 3163456)
Does this mean we will see a race between you and geico this weekend:evilb:
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Originally Posted by JBS
(Post 3163319)
right now this isolated incident has cost me personally over $150k and $20k in lost sponsorship (so far).I've been forced to take out loans against my equipment to pay for this.
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Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 3163794)
Loans! What happened to the amazing resources at your disposal?
The other team has this...... http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b4...ewithGeico.jpg |
Originally Posted by PhantomChaos
(Post 3163820)
Yes they do indeed! But, the way JBS was talking one minute about amazing resouces at his disposal....I thought he found Alec's lost wallet! LOL! Then the next minute hardship...loans on equiptment...I thought he may have found my wallet! Conflicting to say the least...... Ed |
w/ -or- w/o money all these turbine teams seem to want to do is race!
+10! |
Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 3163832)
Hi Nort
Yes they do indeed! But, the way JBS was talking one minute about amazing resouces at his disposal....I thought he found Alec's lost wallet! LOL! Then the next minute hardship...loans on equiptment...I thought he may have found my wallet! Conflicting to say the least...... Ed |
Originally Posted by wot
(Post 3163913)
w/ -or- w/o money all these turbine teams seem to want to do is race!
+10! |
Who cares where they are getting the money? I hope they are in St. Clair this weekend to race that would be sweet. The thread is about the turbines not about how much money he may have or had. Good luck JBS!
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
(Post 3163952)
Who cares where they are getting the money? I hope they are in St. Clair this weekend to race that would be sweet. The thread is about the turbines not about how much money he may have or had. Good luck JBS!
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Originally Posted by sunsation96
(Post 3163952)
The thread is about the turbines not about how much money he may have or had.
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Not to be a smartazz, but if someone is running a million dollar boat team, shouldn't they be a little more "liquid" in terms of cash? Maybe this is the issue with Turbine Marine if JBS was always trying to get them to do things on the "cheap".
Honestly, I never heard of Al Copeland, Tom Gentry or the others saying they needed to get a loan to make the next race. There just might be more to this story than we are reading here. |
Originally Posted by Comanche3Six
(Post 3163962)
Is it? Or is it a simple game of dodgebill? Look at Turbine Marine's work............looks like a shop with a lot of ability that really cares about their product. Turbine Marine's product is the high end of the Offshore Powerboat spectrum. This is my last post on this thread. I hope these two can find some common ground. We shall see.
truth be told the biggest hurdle that jeff has is with all his *****in, is that he keep silent for too long instead of bring the past problems to light. now it seems spitefull or petty to complain. one can only guess in some kind of blind loyality to arruda that jeff thought each time things were going to change for the better. which apperantly never happened. it also seems that alot of people see pretty chrome parts and assocaite that with high performance. there's a big difference between a relaible race boat and "fancy" high performance pleasure boats. |
Recorces
JBS racing does have amazing recorces-obviously we don't have millions to spend on engines every year.The recorces I was referring to are people that would sacrifice their life to help you find out more than just happened but also why-not just why but definitively why.Also people who refreshingly care and genuinely want to see you succeed as well as provide real answers to simple questions.Getting prices up front is quite unusual but I can get used to it.
JBS vs. Geico in st Clair?...... Stay tuned |
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