ATECO ENGINE SHOP ? GOOD or BAD ??
 

Hey guys im looking for some feedback on ATECO.....i want to know if they're trustworthy people or not....if they decieve customers with false dyno sheets or advertise engines at a particular HP and than provide a different story ??

i need some help....

thanks

bill is great to work with. he did my cigarette motors ,on time on budget, kept me informed, everything as promised.ateco would be my 1st choice.I will say no matter who does your motors if you want to be boating in spring, better get them in. good work doesnt happen overnite.

7 posts. Hmmm, I could be wrong, but this thread smells similar to another thread related to the builder in question...


Can't comment but your post DonZ sounds fishy .

02-23-2011, 03:18 PM
Replies: 10 600hp on a donzi 26zx...top speed ?
Views: 492 Posted By DonZ
Oh Yeah !! The engine has finally hit the...

Oh Yeah !! The engine has finally hit the country......only 48hrs to go and i'll have the beast in hand really cant wait!!!


DONZ did'nt your motor just get here from another country on Feb 11 as per your other thread ??? donzi 26ZX
http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/d...top-speed.html



02-27-2011, 06:08 AM #10
DonZ
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Join Date: Feb 2011Posts: 7 Finally the engine is sitting in my Garage!!! i've been waiting for about 5months for this machine to get here......

now the real deal begins.....installing the engine in the boat and testing it to see how it goes!!

Gone fish'en instead of just, A whish'en

It's always weird when a thread pops up posted by a user with NO HISTORY on here at all...

What is DonZ fishin' for???:eek:

I'm going to go ahead and give the guy the benefit of the doubt this time. We all started with zero posts at one point or another, and it's not uncommon for something bad to happen to someone in order for them to "break the ice," so to speak, on a forum like this one.

He's been around for nearly 2 months with various posts regarding a new engine install...I'd venture to guess that he's finally installed it and it's not doing what it's supposed to be doing.

How about some more details, DonZ.

http://www.offshoreonly.com/forums/d...ml#post3328786

Not me, I smell something hiding in the wood pile!

Any chance a mod can compare the OP's and Brad at Ateco's IP addy again??? Or do we have to wait for Brad to come out and say he has no idea who this person is like last time??? :eek:

I've delt with Bill at Ateco and they were great. Kit came complete with everything required! Would definitely recommend them:drink:

Pretty clever guy you are there, can't get anything past some people. LMFAO :eek:

Hey, I've never dealt with Ateco. They may or may not be a great outfit. With that said, after the last fiasco where Brad was pumping his business through an AE he created and then denied it, and was subsequently busted by the IP police... you have to be a little suspicious when a new member comes on here looking for info on these guys!

Then again, maybe he's had some issues with them and is looking for more info on them. Who know's but I'm sure the intent will come out shortly...

+1

well dont kno wif guy is legit or not but Bill built my motors and they have run great for 5 years

Ask Shogren....they use that shop all the time.

That was the reason it took 5 months longer to get my engine back...He keep telling me he was working on Shogren's stuff...when I did get it back it still had a hole in the block....
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From a disinterested party looking at this, it is sure strange to have all the different outlooks about this engine builder. Usually there is a consensus about a machine shop, but I have heard so much bad about these folks and a number of positive endorsement about this group, it is very hard to figure this issue out. The old saying "where there is smoke, there is fire" makes one wonder about all the bad press. I could understand one or two unhappy customers, but this is a real strange situation here. Maybe as a group, we performance boaters are hard to please. I think anytime you are dealing with high performance equipment, you risk having some unhappy clients. But how many says a lot about how you deal with mistakes and problems. jmo

[/QUOTE] I think anytime you are dealing with high performance equipment, you risk having some unhappy clients. But how many says a lot about how you deal with mistakes and problems. jmo[/QUOTE]

Yes there can be problems but you are correct, how you handle the problems and customer service after a problem says a whole lot about any type of business.

After 9 months I am still trying to resolve my situation.:mad:

My nephew owns a large high performance machine shop here in Atlanta that works on cars and boats and one common area of disagreement is what constitutes a "warranty claim" on a race engine or drive repair work. It always seem to cause hurt feelings on one side not matter what the resolution is. What I see him do often is a compromise where the customers pays dead cost for parts and he provides labor. This seems to work most of the time, but on one side, the builder can't control how someone uses there engine/drive and on the other, you have a customer who spent a chit load of bucks thinking his stuff was now "bullet proof". It is a tough situation, but should be dealt with quickly and not drug out for months! :angry-smiley-038::kiss:

I think anytime you are dealing with high performance equipment, you risk having some unhappy clients. But how many says a lot about how you deal with mistakes and problems. jmo[/QUOTE]

Yes there can be problems but you are correct, how you handle the problems and customer service after a problem says a whole lot about any type of business.

After 9 months I am still trying to resolve my situation.:mad:[/QUOTE]

What happened to your project? Was it a warranty issue? Who built it and what was it? What parts did you use? Details please. Some of the stuff I read here amazes me at the time that expires without resolution. This is a very different business world than the one I am used to. I simply do not have the patience some folks here on OSO do. Dan

I think anytime you are dealing with high performance equipment, you risk having some unhappy clients. But how many says a lot about how you deal with mistakes and problems. jmo[/QUOTE]

Yes there can be problems but you are correct, how you handle the problems and customer service after a problem says a whole lot about any type of business.

After 9 months I am still trying to resolve my situation.:mad:[/QUOTE]

I sounds like there might be a couple of untold stories with issues they've had that might not have been resolved to the satisfaction of the customers. How long did the engines last before issues were noticed and how were the problems handled by the shop? Did the engines perform initially as expected? Is or has the shop tried to make things right?

I have been waiting since this am to hear the rest of the story. I was reading your posts about waiting for your new power and than after you installed it, nothing. Did it perform like you wanted? Were there problems? As far as dyno sheets, I always attended every dyno pull on every motor I built so I could be involved in the whole process. We have found 50 to 100 extra hp in my big blower motors simply knowing where we were and where we needed to go in jetting/timing/etc. It is worth every penny to not pull a engine due to a small oil leak and to have the most hp you could make dependably. It sounds like you could not be there personally, but I would want a live video feed, so I could see the pulls and the readouts live. No dyno sheets for me. What do you need help with?

It sounds like vettesteve might have a legit issue, but I think DonZ might be all set.

Don, nice talking with you and good luck getting the boat dialed in with the new engine!

SS930, you are terribly misinformed. I am not with Ateco. Simply a customer and investor. Vettesteve has failed to mention how he everheated his engine to the point it melted the heat tabs. His story is a very long one and I will not go into it here. Let's say there is always two sides to every story. And some people love to go after the negative. Unless you know facts better off to stay quiet rather than be a keyboard jockey. Not one person has ever complained his Ateco engine did not make the advertised power. NOT ONE. Anything high performance is prone to problems and most are directly attributable to rigging or driver error. Good parts fail when abused. Many people do not want to take responsiblilty for thier actions and look to blame someone else. I have seen so many poorly rigged boats with small fuel lines, low fuel delivery, dirty injectors or carbs, bad gas, and poor cooling systems it is a wonder why more engines do not fail no matter who built it. Marine engines are always under load and take a lot of abuse. We do not drive a 700 hp gas engine spinning 6000 rpm in a truck pulling a 10000 lb trailer WOT up a moutain for hours on end do we? Yet many boat owners do just that to their marine engine.
Bill at Ateco has sold many engines all over the country and Europe.

????

Yes, you are with Ateco.

Just saying:

Brad,
You're right, I'm not terribly informed about all things Ateco. I do know there have been several unhappy customers, but no business is perfect and even the best are bound to screw up in time. The good ones make it right when they do F-up.

Oh wait, please dont take offense to the the use of the F-word... i know you and your boy are sensitive to the use of such harsh language on here...

What I am is somewhat informed about is the contradictory BS that seems to flow out of your mouth on here on a regular basis. Just as the previous posters have already pointed out. Let's just say your credibility around here is weak at best these days. ;)

Word of wisdom, let Bill handle his own business, your help doesn't seem to be 'helping'!

So how do you explain Mr Brad Z aka Ateco investor the ATECO motor burns up /melts down Bill L at ateco will not take steves phone calls or respond to register mails so he hires Mr Rudy Dreyden in Deleware to go thru the motor & repair it , motor is put back in the boat and the ateco supplied fuel pump shipped with the motor will not keep up with 7 lbs ,so fuel pump is changed as well by dreyden ..boat has same water system as before and Dreyden Performance motor is running flawlessly ... and still waiting on a return call from Ateco but investor Brad shows up to save the day with this horsecrap b/s and a truck running uphill at WOT scenario LMAO

Furthermore, look man it doesn't go unnoticed that every time the word ATECO is uttered around here you show up with your pom pom's. You have no less than 31 posts mentioning ATECO. Forgive us if we're just mildly suspicious. And then there's the IP thing with multiple screen names. I remember having to deal with that on another site. You've got a couple smart cookies around here who won't let the wool be pulled over their eyes that easily.

http://www.google.com/search?q=ATECO...c1784713a89693

I certainly do not have a dog in this race and could be called a "keyboard jockey", but I do own a business that is in a service industry and I have learned that a problem is best solved now than later. I am not a motor head so I am not familiar with a "heat tab". I have assembled a few motors and I must have left them off by accident, but it does seem like 9 months is a long time to keep someone waiting for a resolution to a problem. If is was his fault, tell and let him move on. If not, make an offer that all can live with and move forward. But to keep someone waiting 3/4 of a year is just not right in any business. I do not mean to argue with anyone, but you state "Not one person has ever complained his Ateco engine did not make the advertised power. NOT ONE" and this is just not true. I am new here and do not know many of you here, but I know I have seen people complain about this particular issue. Words are very powerful and should be chosen carefully with thought given to the content in any given statement, especially if they are recorded by computer. If not, people tend to dismiss any future utterances as possibly false. By the way, I did run a 325hp diesel pulling a 13,000lb trailer and boat WOT up a mountain range for an hour going and coming from Lake Havasu recently and it was fine. I will never forget an interview I saw with Fred Kiekhaufer when he stated that people expected to run his engines full throttle for hours on end with no failure. That is how a boat is operated and it is grueling environment to be sure. I am not taking any sides. but I do think Steve's issue should be put to bed. imo

Just for the record.... Brad was not the user with the second screen name, it was Ateco.

I stand corrected. Thank you. :)

Did Ateco do the motors on the old 32 skater?

Why would someone do that?? Isn't that just asking to be spanked by a mod?? I wonder if that happens often and it is not caught? We have a web site called Kudzu.com where customers go to rate our types of business and if the mods catch you writing your own reviews, you get thrown off the site, which really hurts to not have the customer generated reviews. It is all done by a computer bot that looks for IP address's.

No.

How can you answer for someone you are not with? Should that not be left for someone with the business? I am confused:confused::confused::confused:

Long story……short version:
Had a rod bolt come loose on one of my 540’s, decided to sent both engines to Ateco after talking with Bill and reviewing pricing that he had posted online. Feelings that I had posted pricing for machine work, and builds cost that I would know what I was getting. Never took the motors apart and sent them to Ateco. After they got them and they took them apart Bill called me and basely told me both motors were junk. Having built these motors 14 mo earlier, I ask what was junk. Big Brodie aluminum heads on both engines need a lot of work and should be replaced. Cam and crank on blown motor junk..And a lot of other stuff. Told him to fix heads complete with rockers, new crank and rods on 1 engine and I would send him the same crane cam that was in the other motor. Paid ½ when he started working on the engines. 6mos go by and excuse after excuse. Working on Shogrens stuff, working on other stuff, snow etc. Then no emails….return phone calls… I hope on a plane and rent a pickup truck to get my engines, done with the BS. Arrive at Ateco, and ask for Bill and they ask who I am…..15mins later, Bill comes out front and say they are working on my engines that day. Had 1 block with a crank in it. We talk and resolve all the problems…I pay the rest of the money with a promise they will be ready in 3 weeks. 7 weeks later they ship and I’m happy to finally get my engines. Installing into boat, rig one complete, drop the other one in and rig almost complete……I just had to fire the rigged one off just to hear it run. Hooked up hose and was waiting for water to come out of my new exhaust pipes……….No water…WTH….strainer is full….all of a sudden water comes shooting out of the dip stick……Call Bill and he says intake must be leaking…How did you not catch it when you had it on the dyno……Bill says they did not dyno and just hot run it…..I ask why did you charge me for dyno time? Pissed I take off the intake and see no signs of bad gasket. I block off water ports on the head and do a pressure check…that’s when I find that when the rod broke and trashed the cam and crank it also put a hole in the water jacket below the camshaft..Needless to say Bill said it was my fault for having him use junk parts to build my engines……

:eek: Dude, all I can say is....... you've got WAYYYYY more patients than I've got. I have to really feel sorry for anyone that has to go through any of this kind of termoil, no matter what it is.

Hope you'll be boating this season.

Was anything done to make this right? You back on the water now? Did they at least refund your dyno money?

Wow...

WOW X2
There must be another side of this story and I can't wait to hear it.